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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:37 am
by Radical Rat
In post 1034, Almost50 wrote:The thing is "I think" "it could be" "possibly" RR knew the flip was going to be green and helped still to do exactly what he's doing today.
Like.. "OMG.. no time left" should have exempted him from guilt from his own PoV. He thought no one will ask WHY because.. "eh.. deadline"
Now that "some" of the stuff I had on D1 is coming back to me I recall RR volunteered to be the D1 lim then retracted that. He claimed to have misread his own role. Bla bla bla..
This is misrepresentative. While, yes, I did say a mislim was better than a no lim, and that we'd probably have to suck it up and vote someone we weren't entirely comfortable with. I also did not volunteer to be the elimination, you asked if I was okay with that, I said yes if it was necessary, but did wind up retracting it because I misread my role, as well as that whole situation feeling really gross and manipulative to me.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:44 am
by Radical Rat
In post 1049, Dwlee99 wrote:But RR you did the exact thing I said we should be looking at scum doing, which is playing sheep the IC
Only as a last resort, and not blindly so, but yes, that was a contributing factor in my decision. I don't know much about how good either of them are at reads, but being IC stump means at the very least I know I can trust them to be genuine, and I don't think taking that into consideration is scummy. Not just for my own defense, but for anyone.
Now, if someone is CONSISTENTLY sheeping the mastinas, and they just HAPPEN to all be mislims.... That's probably worth a look. So I'd probably go back and look at the people who were pushing both Kop and DotW. After limming A50 anyway.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:49 am
by Dwlee99
It's like you didn't read my posts saying why sheeping them was not a great idea
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:51 am
by Dwlee99
Summary: They don't get to interact in thread. That's such an important part of forming reads. Also Mastina scumread me while I solved the game in MBOS and I'm still a little annoyed that she was gonna try to push me as I think a fourth townie killed that she scumread in ELO
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:55 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if tweet is town mastina is 0/4 on her scumreads
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:00 am
by Dwlee99
Unlucky
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:03 am
by Radical Rat
I did read them, but I don't think half of a hydra being historically bad at reads is a reason to discount all of their reads forever. For one, people can learn and improve at the game, plus with mollie there to discuss things with I'd expect them to be better at sorting people than either of them would be individually.
But beyond that, I again wasn't sheeping just to follow the IC. I probably would have come to the same conclusion (that it was a relatively safe bet to be wrong on) without their input, though it would have probably been less likely to actually go through.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:06 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: Yuki
We back
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:14 am
by Radical Rat
I think Yuki is likely Town from this sort of thing. I don't think scum!Yuki questions having a free second vote from a plausibly deniable gimmick slot.
Unless of course they're partners, and it's pretend distancing, but eh, I think if there is scum there it's probably just Tarou
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:18 am
by Gamma Emerald
I think she was more accepting of it last time it happened but the skepticism makes sense given tarou did that as scum the last (and iirc only) time that happened
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:20 am
by Radical Rat
I didn't know there was a last time, but that pretty much reinforces my point I think.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:00 am
by Yuki Takeya
I am not scum this game, though if I asked the mod nicely, he could give me a scum role.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:06 am
by Titus
In post 967, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 965, Almost50 wrote:
Rolecop gets your ROLE. They're not affected by the Miller part. HOWEVER, it's up to the Mod to choose if they get the "name of the role" (which makes them a "flavour Cop" instead), or the whole Role PM (minus the alignment indicative stuff). USUALLY it's the latter (i.e. They get the description of your Role as you received it in your PM). This -of course- can be replaced by a simple Role name in NORMAL GAMES because a Jailekeeper/Roleblocker/2-shot Vig/Vanilla/MILLER is called just that.
If it was up to me I'd give them the DESCRIPTION so they know how the Role works. Otherwise -as I mentioned earlier) they'd be just a FLAVOUR Cop, and couldn't tell what the name means.
Yea but I don't know which the mod chose lol
You should be able to ask.
"If a rolecop is in the game, what would they see as feedback when checking me?"
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:24 am
by Enchant
Can someone explain what are this all about?
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:02 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1062, Titus wrote: In post 967, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 965, Almost50 wrote:
Rolecop gets your ROLE. They're not affected by the Miller part. HOWEVER, it's up to the Mod to choose if they get the "name of the role" (which makes them a "flavour Cop" instead), or the whole Role PM (minus the alignment indicative stuff). USUALLY it's the latter (i.e. They get the description of your Role as you received it in your PM). This -of course- can be replaced by a simple Role name in NORMAL GAMES because a Jailekeeper/Roleblocker/2-shot Vig/Vanilla/MILLER is called just that.
If it was up to me I'd give them the DESCRIPTION so they know how the Role works. Otherwise -as I mentioned earlier) they'd be just a FLAVOUR Cop, and couldn't tell what the name means.
Yea but I don't know which the mod chose lol
You should be able to ask.
"If a rolecop is in the game, what would they see as feedback when checking me?"
Last time you suggested I ask the mod I said I still don't know
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:12 am
by Skybird
We are looking for mafia. If you are one please tell me.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:16 am
by Morning Tweet
Why is A50 scum RR
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:10 am
by Radical Rat
Early game was nothing but fluff, and though that's true of most players here, A50 seemed to do the least with the most posts, and even the non-fluff posts just seemed really strange to me, if not outright scummy.
Then later on, he engaged with me in pretty clearly bad faith regarding whether it was worth risking a mislim over a no lim on D1, and used that to attempt to manipulate me into eliminating myself.
Then he faked an inno result on Ari at the last possible second with no time to really discuss anything else, in what seems to me like a pretty blatant attempt to disrupt the town and potentially white knight Ari.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:19 am
by Radical Rat
In post 1034, Almost50 wrote:The thing is "I think" "it could be" "possibly" RR knew the flip was going to be green and helped still to do exactly what he's doing today.
Also this bit where he's suggesting I joined the DotW wagon so I could push him today, which... Doesn't really make any sense, seeing as my scumread and arguments against him have nothing to do with DotW
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:11 pm
by Morning Tweet
how familiar are you with A50?
I do recall someone mentioning trying to get you to elim yourself which is sort of weird play. The faked innocent is also just a strange move but I am yet unsure it implies scummy over just NAI.
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:12 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
its wild we havent gotten anywhere
maybe all the low thread influence people are baddies
tweetie i need a list
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:13 pm
by Gamma Emerald
This game has *issues*
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:17 pm
by Morning Tweet
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:17 pm
by Morning Tweet
i was planning on being lazy and not reviewing little did i know this game progresses at a rate of 5 posts per day
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:18 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i have a plan
