Open 848: Chromavalon: A Bouquet of Colors [Game Over]

[Noraa]

good job to butterflies for solving this game day 1

[Flea The Magician]

Your solve may have been slightly aided by your role, tbh, but then again I haven't seen the other games so I'm not familiar with your self-confessed amazing solving capabilities

oh mine are crap, I go on gut most often and catch slips. Even without the knowledge you were scum, your interactions with Enchant were quite sus.

Nancy is a dang legend when she's on the game and ngl I'm well chuffed I got to hydra with her.

[Flea The Magician]

Also Furtive, never ever underestimate Nora Zir an absolute pain to be able to read properly to the point I have to just invert my read most often.
Zir an emotional and charged player, but I don't think ze would out and hardshove D1 as muse with the numbers available.

[implosion]

I'm interested in more setups with merlin mechanisms as well (i.e. where the informed minority has some ability to make a last-ditch guess and win instead of losing). Avalon's been my favorite f2f social deduction for a while but i only know of this and one obscure setup i made and ran once a while ago that have a mechanic like it. I think this setup implements it in a very interesting and unique way.

[Scorpious]

“Thank you Scorpious for repping in as the Piñata”

Oh, shucks… you’re welcome

[furtiveglance]

Agree implosion, I like this setup a lot. I realised halfway through day 2 that I was playing completely wrong and should be hard pushing my Muse reads. If I'd thought about it the game might have gone differently

[Noraa]

Zir an emotional and charged player, but I don't think ze would out and hardshove D1 as muse with the numbers available.

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[ItalianoVD]

Great game everyone! Happy that we got the win. @Scorpius: did you really believe I was VT? Awesome job Nancy/Flea! MVPs

[ItalianoVD]

Also I had to stop Nancy just outright claiming soooo many times lol

Lol, I feel you Nancy. I was gonna claim the last day. It was my plan if I didn’t die, but I just decided to have a conversation with Noraa and let the day just happen.

[Noraa]

Also I had to stop Nancy just outright claiming soooo many times lol

Lol, I feel you Nancy. I was gonna claim the last day. It was my plan if I didn’t die, but I just decided to have a conversation with Noraa and let the day just happen.

hahahha. honestly i thought i would get tunneled for the dunn read.
unrelated but it hit me after the flip that butterflies was almost certainly a mage. was a little slow @_@

[Nancy Drew 39]

Good game everyone. Well done town. I played the setup inherently badly, it was pretty clear to VT who Muses were. I knew butterflies was my Muse, I felt like they were constantly asking me for associatives. I also caught the day 1 butterflies sheeping Galron on Umlaut so I figured Galron was Umlaut's Muse. implosion pushed Enchant pretty hard day 2 and gave Muse energy with the strategy talk + sheeping butterflies' solve post death. Despite this, my team decided that town condemned a Muse day 1? Not the best analysis but no hard feelings. I did all I could and was outvoted

If I ever rand muse again in this kind of setup, I will probably make that a lot less obvious. However tbf, I did initially independently sr Umlaut so I wasn’t really sheeping him. I sr his opening posts.

I’m really curious why no one on the scumteam ever entertained the idea that me and Noraa could have been possibly engaging in muse theatre?

I think that’s definitely more likely than I hardpush and put my fellow mason in unnecessary jeopardy.

My main concern was that we needed town to sheep our reads. I seriously did consider claiming but only role not block and push my entire solve but once we got everyone to switch from Enchant to you, it was no longer necessary.

Conversely, had Enchant been our block and had you not made it beyond obvious that Enchant and Umlaut were your buddies, we might well have possibly decided to just coast. I’ve done that as mason. We were strategically basing our play not just on our fellow muses’ reads but their positioning in the game and I didn’t just want to nail you, I also wanted to clear them as well. So we made a strategic decision to take the heat so that the other muses could coast on solve.

[Noraa]

me and Noraa could have been possibly engaging in muse theatre?

i actually tried to make it seem like that but im not very good at faking things lmao

[Nancy Drew 39]

good job to butterflies for solving this game day 1

Your solve may have been slightly aided by your role, tbh, but then again I haven't seen the other games so I'm not familiar with your self-confessed amazing solving capabilities

oh mine are crap, I go on gut most often and catch slips. Even without the knowledge you were scum, your interactions with Enchant were quite sus.

Nancy is a dang legend when she's on the game and ngl I'm well chuffed I got to hydra with her.

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

@Noraa, It was actually day 2 not day 1.

[Noraa]

samee thing :pppppp

[Nancy Drew 39]

Great game everyone! Happy that we got the win. @Scorpius: did you really believe I was VT? Awesome job Nancy/Flea! MVPs

<3 <3 <3

We did have a “little” help from you/Galron and Implosion. Both Galron and Implosion confitowned Progo/fire. Noraa was flaming obvtown right out of the gate and I could see Titus doing real solving on d2.

When you hardpushed Titus, it really threw me for a loop because it just didn’t make any sense to me for Titus to be scum here with either furtive or Enchant and I probably would have dug in my heels more on a Titus tr in a different kind of setup.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Also I had to stop Nancy just outright claiming soooo many times lol

Lol, I feel you Nancy. I was gonna claim the last day. It was my plan if I didn’t die, but I just decided to have a conversation with Noraa and let the day just happen.

Good thing you didn’t, all things considered.

It did suck that Dunn was vt on the list and condemned however. :/

[Noraa]

oops

[Flea The Magician]

Everyone makes a bad play occasionally. You screamed town from early D1 Nora and even with the misflip you were still clear to us.

[Irrelephant11]

The muses's ISOs are a fun read postgame

[numberQ]

The scum thread is now public: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89138

[Flea The Magician]

Flicking through the Maf thread...
Furtive my game is almost all gut reads, and i like putting pressure on to players who I don't know so I can get a feel for their vibe.

also we called the bus tactic xD

You're pretty good though Furtive, I'm genuinely looking forward to playing with you again.
Scorps criticisms of you are pretty harsh in my opinion and I second Enchants ScumMVP of you.

[furtiveglance]

No I accept I played badly, I should have pushed Muse reads and muddied the waters. I would have liked slightly more open discussion on the Muse guessing, but Scorpious was pretty set on his guess, despite only playing one day. What can you do

[Scorpious]

Flicking through the Maf thread...
Furtive my game is almost all gut reads, and i like putting pressure on to players who I don't know so I can get a feel for their vibe.

also we called the bus tactic xD

You're pretty good though Furtive, I'm genuinely looking forward to playing with you again.
Scorps criticisms of you are pretty harsh in my opinion and I second Enchants ScumMVP of you.

I didn’t think I was being harsh, it interesting repping in as scum on a game that’s already solved

[Scorpious]

No I accept I played badly, I should have pushed Muse reads and muddied the waters. I would have liked slightly more open discussion on the Muse guessing, but Scorpious was pretty set on his guess, despite only playing one day. What can you do

But I wasn’t, I said I was defaulting to you guys since I was the rep and got crickets.. I even left it up to you to make the call and said I wouldn’t be mad either way..

C’mon now..

[Flea The Magician]

No I accept I played badly, I should have pushed Muse reads and muddied the waters. I would have liked slightly more open discussion on the Muse guessing, but Scorpious was pretty set on his guess, despite only playing one day. What can you do

My only thing to you, is play more offensively. Everytime I came at you, be it peaceful, probing or aggressive you were just defensive and you didn't feed back, you didn't create dialog, you didn't bring a discussion.