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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:20 am
by Tracer Bullet
In post 1047, Menalque wrote:no, I think you're being deliberately rude/hurtful in the way you're phrasing things and going about trying to push catboi, and I think that's arse-y
you take offense to me pushing catboi over you because I said he was more dangerous than you.

when he's literally the reigning DonC.

and your last completed scum game you played like a frozen statue.

Maybe you're just too sensitive.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:21 am
by Tracer Bullet
In post 1049, Menalque wrote:
In post 1044, Tracer Bullet wrote:yea thanks for admitting you are not even trying to elim scum

so either you are:

(a) scum trying to misyeet town

or

(b) gamethrowing town
I don't think that every lim has to be on scum to be helpful to the wincon of limming all scum

idk if you're scum or not, but I think the game has a much higher chance of us locating them if we remove you from it
generally the town tries to elim the scum.

that's what we are going for.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:22 am
by Menalque
like, you're clearly some combination of arrogant and operating in bad faith, and I'm pretty sure that the way you're engaging is going to make people other than just me not want to play/post very much which is normally very helpful for scum

so it doesn't really matter to me if you happen to be scum who's doing this strategically or town doing this because of... reasons? but either way I think town win% goes up if we lim you first

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:22 am
by Menalque
I'll also admit to a strong distaste for shit-talking anyone when not on main or not willing to be upfront about who you are and what your relationships are to everyone

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:23 am
by The Keeper
In post 1011, Tracer Bullet wrote:
In post 1006, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1000, Tracer Bullet wrote:flavor!town enthuiastically pushing people even when wrong.

flavor!?!?!?!?!? here doing nothing

I wonder what !?!?!?!?! is

Again, you're taking meta from like 1 or 2 games.

You realize I have actively lurked out as town multiple times before, until like Day 3-Day 4, and then came into solve the game late?

I also have had over 1k posts as scum, so my activity is never AI.

I stated in sign ups this was going to be lurker leaf.
and i'm not pushing you today.

I'm just stating I sr your slot

you can always come back on day 6 or whatever to actually play I don't really give a fuck lol
You've Glass Cannon'ed into FL and you're not pushing?
So what, just trying to get your Marked damage up?
Or just cranky cause you popped a Kidney Stone?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:23 am
by Enchant
In post 1049, Menalque wrote:
In post 1044, Tracer Bullet wrote:yea thanks for admitting you are not even trying to elim scum

so either you are:

(a) scum trying to misyeet town

or

(b) gamethrowing town
I don't think that every lim has to be on scum to be helpful to the wincon of limming all scum

idk if you're scum or not, but I think the game has a much higher chance of us locating them if we remove you from it
You are also wrong.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:23 am
by Flavor Leaf
I said it before, I think that list was TB convincing themselves they're correct, which coincides with what theyve shown about who they are.

I, who was getting ready to come in and push Catboi, am happy to empty fuel TB pushing to see what the gamestate becomes afterwards.

Possibly trying to get Catboi to come after me, which would force more direct interaction for me to read.


30% confidence in a scum read on Day 1 is pretty good, and I'm at about 18% for Catboi right now.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:24 am
by Menalque
also I won my last scumgame lol, I just wasn't on mena

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:24 am
by Menalque
In post 1056, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm at about 18% for Catboi right now.
y

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:25 am
by Tracer Bullet
I love how you keep trying to make this some kind of personal conflict and get mad like I've somehow grievously insulted you by suggesting you are not as good as Catboi at playing the scum!alignment.

Instead of actually laying out why you townread Catboi.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:25 am
by Menalque
In post 1057, Menalque wrote:also I won my last scumgame lol, I just wasn't on mena
oh no, I've been baited into getting defensive lol

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:26 am
by Menalque
In post 1059, Tracer Bullet wrote:I love how you keep trying to make this some kind of personal conflict and get mad like I've somehow grievously insulted you by suggesting you are not as good as Catboi at playing the scum!alignment.
my dude, that's never what I've been saying and either you know this and are openly posting in bad faith, or you're not reading my posts closely enough to comprehend what I'm actually saying

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:26 am
by butterchurn
I think it's probably both.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:27 am
by Menalque
In post 1062, butterchurn wrote:I think it's probably both.
who else do you reckon we can get votes from?

norwee, you down to vote TB or nah?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:29 am
by butterchurn
I'm sure that once people catch up and read the thread and see how the last few pages have progressed, from a detached point of view, they should see that the behavior is hard to imagine coming from town.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:30 am
by Menalque
one can only hope*

*albeit with a sense of forboding and pessimism

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:31 am
by The Keeper
Well now I've caught up, I'm going to leave you all to your Number 1 and lemonade puddles.

[Avoiding a certain internet meme is tricky with these items.]

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:31 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1058, Menalque wrote:
In post 1056, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm at about 18% for Catboi right now.
y

There was something off early game with them for me.

I have no knowledge of Catboi scum play, I was gone essentially the past 2 years, and that's apparently when they started doing well

It felt like they were oiling themselves up to be a slippery cat this game, if that makes sense, and that's something I like to do in these big games.

Getting heat early in the game, gets attention on you, but allows you to be part of the narrative for the majority of players who that's gonna be one of the main things they remember, which lets them pivot well as the game continues, and use that early heat as defense, even though you can get brought up to like E-2 as scum, and have it not matter too much early because people will chicken out, scum and town alike.

I'm also slightly afraid to push them more because I dont want to be threat night killed, but we've pushed past that point, I guess.

I much prefer the angle where scum think they can 1v1 me.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:32 am
by The Keeper
In post 1067, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1058, Menalque wrote:
In post 1056, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm at about 18% for Catboi right now.
y

There was something off early game with them for me.

I have no knowledge of Catboi scum play, I was gone essentially the past 2 years, and that's apparently when they started doing well

It felt like they were oiling themselves up to be a slippery cat this game, if that makes sense, and that's something I like to do in these big games.

Getting heat early in the game, gets attention on you, but allows you to be part of the narrative for the majority of players who that's gonna be one of the main things they remember, which lets them pivot well as the game continues, and use that early heat as defense, even though you can get brought up to like E-2 as scum, and have it not matter too much early because people will chicken out, scum and town alike.

I'm also slightly afraid to push them more because I dont want to be threat night killed, but we've pushed past that point, I guess.

I much prefer the angle where scum think they can 1v1 me.
If we're entirely honest, if you don't get Monstro'd and make it to B2 then the scum teams have no clue who they play with.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:33 am
by Menalque
In post 1067, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm also slightly afraid to push them more because I dont want to be threat night killed, but we've pushed past that point, I guess.

I much prefer the angle where scum think they can 1v1 me.
just remember the tradition between us if you're still here tomorrow morning

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:33 am
by Flavor Leaf
Catboi is not gonna have a real case on them Day 1 either, they just aren't.

So Tracer Bullet definitely jumped the gun with trying to push them this early, and it becomes so much harder to actually have the fade go through because it's easy to slip out of that push as scum.

While I voted Catboi here for some momentum to check out gamestate, even if they are scum, I'm probably gonna end up moving my vote because there just isnt going to be evidence for a catboi fade that people are going to like enough here on Day 1.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:35 am
by Tracer Bullet
lol

mena babyraging cuz I hurt his feelings

classic mena

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:35 am
by Tracer Bullet
maybe don't be a game throwing scrub and try to actually catch some bad guys if you're town

then i'll give you some respect

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:36 am
by Menalque
okay my dude!

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:36 am
by Menalque
I hope that everything is okay in your life