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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:03 am

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AurorusVox wrote:Okay.
So if Charter is truthful, NS gets hit with a -1 donk DESPITE being integrated by Charter's track.
This means NS was actually hit with a -2 last night.
Since no one else is claiming a hit, I'm going to go ahead and believe NS was actually struck last night.

Well, I didn't really know how much faith I wanted to put in Grey's NS-Town meta read.
What I mean is, I got worried last night that I'm missing the plot entirely, and a Grey-NS team would kill ThAd and win by controlling half the votes.
Since that didn't happen, I now suspect that Grey and NS cannot be on the same team, which means either Grey is WKing NS because he knows he's town, or Grey really does think NS is town, and if Grey is town I feel I can trust his read. All of this is a roundabout way of saying

I-vote: NS
D-vote: ThAd

Or maybe any 2 man team left would just donk Charter so he can't vote then post "Kekekekekekeke No Lynch" in thread
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:03 am

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Seriously, if you believe in a three man scum team, Charter has to be on it.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:06 am

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I always get post-deadline jitters. I usually don't pay them much heed the next day.
The reason I brought it up was to explain why I'm willing to trust your NS townread. Whether YOU'RE scum or town, it's still highly likely that NS is town.

Not to mention, if there was a 3-man scumteam,
ThAd
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:11 am

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AurorusVox wrote:I always get post-deadline jitters. I usually don't pay them much heed the next day.
The reason I brought it up was to explain why I'm willing to trust your NS townread. Whether YOU'RE scum or town, it's still highly likely that NS is town.

Not to mention, if there was a 3-man scumteam,
ThAd
has to be on it, or he'd be dead.

Good point.

Three man means ThAd plus Charter, and if we lynch anyone else we lose.

Vote: ThAd


TBF, I am actually feeling alright on the Charter = town bit, just because I HAVE to assume he's not the serial killer at this juncture, and what the fuck, every role in this game has been psychotic so well

Also MS is a monkey.

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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:47 am

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I'm beginning to think grey is the scum. I don't feel there's anything I can do to avert a lynch on myself though, so whatevs. NS doesn't deserve your i-votes, he will just waste them.

d-vote: greyice

i-vote: thad
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:23 am

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GreyICE wrote:I don't really trust ThAd at this juncture, AV is at 4, integrating Charter is like literally insane, and I'm more or less a VT with flavor.

I'd prefer not to be integrated today, even.
AurorusVox wrote:Okay.
So if Charter is truthful, NS gets hit with a -1 donk DESPITE being integrated by Charter's track.
This means NS was actually hit with a -2 last night.
Since no one else is claiming a hit, I'm going to go ahead and believe NS was actually struck last night.

I don't integrate AND track. It's one or the other. I just tracked.
ThAdmiral wrote:I'm beginning to think grey is the scum. I don't feel there's anything I can do to avert a lynch on myself though, so whatevs. NS doesn't deserve your i-votes, he will just waste them.

d-vote: greyice

i-vote: thad

I'm pretty sure that if we lynch Thad and he flips scum, the last is GreyIce. When I was rereading, GreyIce has been right about zero of the flips. That's right, everyone he's called scum flipped town, and everyone he's called town is still alive. Coincidence? No.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:25 am

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Since I can't be killed at night, I have to get lynched during the day, unless I go down by more than one tonight. How much you guys want to bet when Thad flips scum, Grey is then going to push for my lynch during the day? I'm calling it now.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:45 pm

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charter wrote:I don't integrate AND track. It's one or the other. I just tracked.

charter wrote:Since I can't be killed at night


That...seems to be contradicting this:

Midnight's Sorrow wrote:When I'm a sin(x), I have 2 1-shot abilities. One degree has a watch and differentiation, the other has a track and integration.

When I'm a cos(x), I'm most definitely a treestump- no votes are worth a shit on my end. Depending on which one I'm on, though, I'm either lynchproof, or Bulletproof- meaning no differentiations or integrations during the day or night depending.

The sin(x) doesn't say "two sets of two 1-shot abilities", and he's conjoined them with "and" which suggests both happen at once. Not to mention, MS claims to have never used them before, but I think if he'd had FOUR abilities spread across his sin(x)'es he wouldn't have been so cautious...

As for the second, MS only claimed BP at cos(x).

I'm smelling shenanigans...
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:17 pm

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@ charter: if you think that then why not vote greyice now instead?
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:57 pm

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AurorusVox wrote:
charter wrote:I don't integrate AND track. It's one or the other. I just tracked.

charter wrote:Since I can't be killed at night


That...seems to be contradicting this:

Midnight's Sorrow wrote:When I'm a sin(x), I have 2 1-shot abilities. One degree has a watch and differentiation, the other has a track and integration.

When I'm a cos(x), I'm most definitely a treestump- no votes are worth a shit on my end. Depending on which one I'm on, though, I'm either lynchproof, or Bulletproof- meaning no differentiations or integrations during the day or night depending.

The sin(x) doesn't say "two sets of two 1-shot abilities", and he's conjoined them with "and" which suggests both happen at once. Not to mention, MS claims to have never used them before, but I think if he'd had FOUR abilities spread across his sin(x)'es he wouldn't have been so cautious...

As for the second, MS only claimed BP at cos(x).

I'm smelling shenanigans...

That's what MS said, he has 2 1-shot abilities, as in two separate one shot abilities. At sinx it's watch and dif, at -sinx its track and int. I'm immune at night when I'm at -cosx, and immune at day when I'm cosx.

Not sure where you're getting all this from, it's the exact same as what MS said.

Thad wrote:@ charter: if you think that then why not vote greyice now instead?

I might, but I feel like you're scum too.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:00 am

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@ charter: can you elucidate why for me?
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:49 am

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charter wrote:That's what MS said, he has 2 1-shot abilities, as in two separate one shot abilities.

Hmm. But you're claiming four separate one shot abilities (Watch [1], Differentiate [2], Track [3] and Integrate [4]). Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I thought he meant he strictly had two one-shot abilities, {Watch and Differentiate} (1) and {Track and Integrate} (2).
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:When I'm a sin(x), I have 2 1-shot abilities. One degree has a watch and differentiation, the other has a track and integration.

See, the way he says "
a
watch
and
differentiation" makes them sound connected. Like, "a" makes it sound like "one" shot of Watch "and" Differentiate. It would make twisted sense too, since you want to Watch people you think will be attacked but must lower them to do so; and you want to track suspicious people, but must integrate them to do so. Plus why not use them up if they're separate? He held onto them for too long, imo.

charter wrote:I'm immune at night when I'm at -cosx, and immune at day when I'm cosx.

Yup, but you suggested you'd be immune TONIGHT, and since you're sin(x) that obviously isn't going to be the case...>_>
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:43 am

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Day 7 Votecount #0


Differentiation
:

[2] ThAdmiral
- charter, AurorusVox
[1] GreyICE
- ThAdmiral
[0] AurorusVox
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[0] charter
-
[0] Nobody Special
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Not voting: Nobody Special, GreyICE

Integration
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[2] Nobody Special
- GreyICE, AurorusVox
[1] ThAdmiral
- ThAdmiral
[0] GreyICE
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[0] AurorusVox
-
[0] charter
-

Not voting: charter, Nobody Special

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1 Differentiation
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1 Integration
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Each player has
1 D-Vote
and
1 I-Vote
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:51 am

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Goddamn it. God fucking damn it.

I'm still pissed. Charter, how DARE you replace in and tell me that I've been right about nothing? Who the fuck called Ant scum when the ENTIRE REST OF THE TOWN were calling him town, who pushed him day after day? Okay I was wrong about Charlie, but I was moving towards 'lynching him for enormous lurkage' by the time he died anyway.

You think it's good scum play to shoot the people you have scumreads on in the thread? It increases your credibility maybe? What the fuck? I have pushed that NS is town for days, and it's a read everyone AGREES ON at this point. I pushed Thor that your slot was hardly confirmed scum because I knew my bulletproof might have stopped a kill.

For fucks sake, the ONLY possible 2 man scum team is you and ThAd. Any, ANY other combination of you, ThAd, AV, and NS could have shot you or ThAd last night. You being voteless would have left it two town, two scum voting, yeah. ThAd would just be DEAD. If it's a two man team, it must be you and ThAd.

So if ThAd flips scum we're lynching YOU.

I still don't think it's very likely that unlynchable plus scum, but first this game and second this is motherfucking insurance. And ThAd is the only person shooting people half the time
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:34 am

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Don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel. :roll:

And, Grey, you ought to know this by now -- I'm very wary of Absolute, Positive, No-Way-In-Hell-Am-I-Wrong reads.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:41 am

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AurorusVox wrote:
charter wrote:That's what MS said, he has 2 1-shot abilities, as in two separate one shot abilities.

Hmm. But you're claiming four separate one shot abilities (Watch [1], Differentiate [2], Track [3] and Integrate [4]). Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I thought he meant he strictly had two one-shot abilities, {Watch and Differentiate} (1) and {Track and Integrate} (2).
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:When I'm a sin(x), I have 2 1-shot abilities. One degree has a watch and differentiation, the other has a track and integration.

See, the way he says "
a
watch
and
differentiation" makes them sound connected. Like, "a" makes it sound like "one" shot of Watch "and" Differentiate. It would make twisted sense too, since you want to Watch people you think will be attacked but must lower them to do so; and you want to track suspicious people, but must integrate them to do so. Plus why not use them up if they're separate? He held onto them for too long, imo.

charter wrote:I'm immune at night when I'm at -cosx, and immune at day when I'm cosx.

Yup, but you suggested you'd be immune TONIGHT, and since you're sin(x) that obviously isn't going to be the case...>_>

For reasons I can't get it to, the role pm was confusing. There was confusion between sinx and -sinx. I have the watch/dif at sinx and the track/int at -sinx. I see what you're picking up on, but MS was vague with his initial claim (I was actually mad at him for claiming as much as he did, since by not giving the full truth, it is more powerful, but whatever). MS used both his watch and his dif already. I used the track. I can integrate someone tonight, and then I have no more active abilities.

I can't be killed at night unless I go down by 2 or more in a single night.
GreyICE wrote:For fucks sake, the ONLY possible 2 man scum team is you and ThAd. Any, ANY other combination of you, ThAd, AV, and NS could have shot you or ThAd last night. You being voteless would have left it two town, two scum voting, yeah. ThAd would just be DEAD. If it's a two man team, it must be you and ThAd.

I'm not voteless today.
Grey wrote:So if ThAd flips scum we're lynching YOU.

I told you all. I can see into the future. :cool:
Just remember to lynch Grey after Thad.
thad wrote:@ charter: can you elucidate why for me?

I feel like your role needs to be lynched first. It's more harmful to the town.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:43 am

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And in case anyone hasn't noticed. Grey's only reason he can't be scum is .....
He hasn't given any.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:54 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:... I'm guess I choose the wrong person to use my 1-shot Watch on...

OSHIT
You're totally right.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:12 am

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Night three he dif'ed Grey.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:42 am

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What are you going to do if I don't flip scum?
You are going to have to start planning for that.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:04 pm

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If you want, you can make a case on Grey. That would be more convincing than saying you're town.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:12 pm

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I'm trying to think here, but if we Dif, Thad, and he flips town like he says. I get Dif'ed tonight, and can't vote tomorrow. Assuming two scum left, I think that would be game for the town. That looks very bad for you Thad...
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:27 pm

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Two scumteam would have to be Grey+NS, which could have knocked ThAd out for the win last night :\
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:27 pm

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ALSO
Why didn't MS claim his Diff earlier when I was wracking my brain for numbers?
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:39 pm

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Likely the same reason MS is no longer in the game -- he's a career flaker.
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