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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:13 am
by elvis_knits
Okay let's go SA

VOTE: Sleepless Assassin

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:24 am
by Kublai Khan
Pine wrote:NY 132 for a game with KK as scum. Not sure if you have that to look at in your meta, or if it's relevant.

Give Mini 773 a read. Whether I'm a dick or not has zero to do with my role PM and everything to do with who I'm playing against.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:00 am
by Lowell
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Lowell wrote:That's it. KURIBO, 1v1 !!!


You know it's yours to lose, right?


Don't make me 1v1 you.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:09 am
by Lowell
In the meantime, now that we've come stupidly full circle,
unvote, vote sleeplessassassin
. Many pages ago I got the vibe from him that he's just trying to keep loose contact with the thread; just enough to stay off the radar as all idiots challenge each other in pointless cagefights (see: Lowell). This is still how I feel. I actually think I would win a 1v1 against this guy. If for no other reason than being forced to attack someone would show just how uncomfortable he is doing so.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:47 am
by springlullaby
SpyreX wrote:I actually would have bought it a lot more if it was some kinda keep a bro alive bit.

Instead of an actual lurker defense.

(This is a prime example of meta being bad)


Oh come on now. You can't use that as an argument.
The point of gesture is to not owning up to them, or it becomes moot. Do you really imagine Reck town acting otherwise?

Spyrex + 20 scumpoints

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:48 am
by springlullaby
Also KK is being scummy lately, I don't like the "honest pressure" business.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:53 am
by Sleepless Assassin
I'll be doing those reads this afternoon just so everyone knows. Just finished career related stuff that you don't care about that took almost 2 hours, then I have something else that will take maybe an hour, then after my girlfriend's lunch break, this game has my mostly undivided attention.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:27 am
by chunkykev
Sleepless Assassin wrote:I'll be doing those reads this afternoon just so everyone knows. Just finished career related stuff that you don't care about that took almost 2 hours, then I have something else that will take maybe an hour, then after my girlfriend's lunch break, this game has my mostly undivided attention.


And we'll believe it when we see it.

I was just about to start taking bets on how many votes it would take for SA to return with the rest of his reads. It's been that long, that the first half of his reads are probably now out of date :( Will we be getting an update on them SA?

Unofficial Vote Count (up to this post)


Sleepless Assassin (6): chunkykev, elvis_knits, Grimmjow, Kuribo, Lowell, Pine

SpyreX (4): Ellibereth, Fate, Sleepless Assassin, xRECKONERx

Grimmjow (3): DrippingGoofball, Hinduragi, Rhinox
xRECKONERx (3): Kublai Khan, SpyreX, Sociopath

Kuribo (2): Seraphim, springlullaby

Kublai Khan (1): Zdenek
Pine (1): Shattered Viewpoint

Not Voting: My Milked Eek

21 Alive, 11 to Lynch

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:31 am
by Max
I can confirm the above is correct.
I am now hunting for a replacement for My Milked Eek
I prodded Seraphim earlier


Vote Count Seventeen


Sleepless Assassin (7): chunkykev, elvis_knits, Grimmjow, Kuribo, Lowell, Pine, springlullaby

SpyreX (4): Ellibereth, Fate, Sleepless Assassin, xRECKONERx

Grimmjow (3): DrippingGoofball, Hinduragi, Rhinox
xRECKONERx (3): Kublai Khan, SpyreX, Sociopath

Kuribo (1): Seraphim
Kublai Khan (1): Zdenek
Pine (1): Shattered Viewpoint

Not Voting: My Milked Eek

21 Alive, 11 to Lynch


EDIT: Spring Lullaby was voting SA
EDIT EDIT: not -> now

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:34 am
by chunkykev
Max wrote:I am not hunting for a replacement for My Milked Eek


Why not? Or should that "not" say "now"?

And am I allowed to keep playing with my week off, please Mr Mod? xxx

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:41 am
by Max
*Now...

Sorry. That was completely the wrong statement with that error.

Yes. Unless anyone complains, you may stay.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:46 am
by Sleepless Assassin
Chunk, yeah, I plan on doing a brief update on the first part and then the rest will look a lot like the first part did originally.

Also, I've been staring at a computer screen for about three and a half hours now, so reading things is getting hard. Even when I had my own computer, my absolute max was probably about 2 hours. Hopefully after an hour away, it'll be better. I'll get through it all though.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:49 am
by DrippingGoofball
I don't think SA is scum. It doesn't look like intentional lurking.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:17 am
by Kublai Khan
DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't think SA is scum. It doesn't look like intentional lurking.

Sleepless Assassin wrote:Gah. 5 pages to catch up on and just under an hour before work. Looks like I won't be finishing that reads post until Monday. That's a guaranteed "I'm working on this Monday. If I don't, feel free to hammer" Monday, not a "I'm gonna say Monday so come Tuesday maybe people will forget and I can say Thursday" Monday. Seriously, hold me to it.

VOTE: Sleepless Assassin

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:32 am
by SocioPath
Those still wondering about Shattered Viewpoints meta:

Shattered Viewpoint is Nobody Special.

Nobody Special lurks hardcore as scum.

Shattered Viewpoint is lurking hardcore this game.

Shattered Viewpoint is scum.

Toothless, nonthreatening lurker scum.

But scum nonetheless.

Should not be a focus for today.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:34 am
by Hinduragi
I can almost guarantee you DGB meant intentional lurking as in lurking for scum-intentions.

Why are you voting him now? Because he didn't finish his reads post?

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:38 am
by xRECKONERx
SocioPath wrote:Those still wondering about Shattered Viewpoints meta:

Shattered Viewpoint is Nobody Special.

Nobody Special lurks hardcore as scum.

Shattered Viewpoint is lurking hardcore this game.

Shattered Viewpoint is scum.

Toothless, nonthreatening lurker scum.

But scum nonetheless.

Should not be a focus for today.

he also lurks hardcore as town sooo

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:13 pm
by chunkykev
Sleepless Assassin wrote:I'll be doing those reads this afternoon just so everyone knows. Just finished career related stuff that you don't care about that took almost 2 hours, then I have something else that will take maybe an hour, then after my girlfriend's lunch break, this game has my mostly undivided attention.


So you've been doing stuff for 2 hours that we don't care about (so true :p) but that's done so don't see the point in telling us. You still have stuff to do for about an hour, then your girlfriend's lunch break then this game has your mostly undivided attention.

Considering you posted this over 5 hours ago now, that is one hell of a lunch break! Going to my bed now (after midnight here) and curious if they'll be anything when I get up in the morning.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:33 pm
by Seraphim
I'm really sorry for not posting guys. This game is hard as fuck to read and I just haven't had the time.

This weekend, I should have time to read it...if you guys are willing to wait until Friday/Saturday, there WILL BE CONTENT.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:41 pm
by Sleepless Assassin
Ok.

*Cracks knuckles*

Chunk - Nothing has changed here. He's still town. Productive mentality. Questioning people and going for progress.

DGB - Still town for the way she was looking for everyone's reactions early on.

Elli - Still blending scum.

Elvis - Still town. She's giving plenty of reads and explaining why she feels the way she does.

Fate - Still scum. Needs rope. Did the "no way Reck don't call SDCs scum" thing early on, which makes me think him and one more SDC are scum. The constant joking admissions to scuminess was another tell. The turnaround on Kuribo looked fake. Didn't really push for the Kuribo lynch while voting him. Doesn't seem Fate-like. And his unvote of me after the first part of my reads was too lazy to be TownFate. He wants an easy lynch.

Grimm - Still town trying to keep up. His last post shows that he is trying. No change in the read here.

Hindu - Kuribo dropping that town tell makes the connection I saw between Kuribo/Hindu/Fate obviously not as strong. Leaning town now on Hindu.

Khan - He looked pretty town when I looked at his ISO before. Other people seemed to think so as well, but I feel like more people are calling him scum lately, so I want to look into his posts since the first time I did it. So there was the part where he told me I was at L-1 and needed to claim, but I wasn't. Seems hypocritical considering he called me out for not remembering something in the rules. Shouldn't he be paying enough attention to know when someone is at L-1 and when they're not? I don't see it as scummy that he didn't realize it. What I have a problem with is that he did this after he seemed to think everyone should remember every detail of the rules. It makes his case on me seem more forced and fake. And it looks like he's back after Kuribo after pushing him, letting up, and being called out for letting up. Actually, no. Looks like I'm wrong. He was defending himself against Kuribo, not attacking him. Posts some reads with reasons. Meh, I don't agree with a lot of what he's saying, but he's definitely pushing hard for what he wants. I think he's scummier than I thought he was before, but still not a top scum read.

Kuribo - I'm not going to waste the time sifting through everything for this. My opinion on him should have been clear throughout the game. He was really scummy, slowly got a little better, them BAM! Dropped that town tell looking back and realizing scum were daytalking. He's probtown.

Lowell - This one is hard for me. He's very non existant. I think we are more likely to find something out about him after we get some flips because people seem to have clear thoughts on him somehow. Let's see. He was confident kublai and myself were scum early on. Reck, Spring, Socio, and Kuribo town. I'd be interested to know why. Most of that is different from my early reads. His vote post on me looks pretty genuine, actually. You know what? When I look closer, Lowell doesn't seem the way I've been picturing him. I thought he was quiet, lurky, kind of inactive, but I had it wrong. He's just concise. Plenty of reads. Plenty of reasons. Just not a lot of words. Lowell is town.

Malth/Sera- Malth didn't do anything except joke vote, say he couldn't keep up, and ask to be replaced. Therefore, I couldn't get a read on him. Sera has two posts saying he has homework and is working on the game. I'd like to see at least partial stuff. Slight scum read just because he claimed to be "working on it" but has provided absolutely nothing. Not one read. Not one vote. Nothing.

MME- Same as Sera without the "working on it" thing. So he just has nothing. Wonderful.

Pine- First impression is similar to Chunk. He seems very direct. Definitely voicing his opinions, questioning suspects. I think he's town. Now the ISO. Did the whole ginger thing early. Found something small on DGB and dropped the ginger thing for real gameplay. Questions Khan about Kuribo. Gives a few scum reads. I'm noticing more about scum reads than town reads, which might be personal policy (don't get town reads NK'd by pointing them out. I've seen it before)Yeah, I'm pretty much seeing what I thought I remembered seeing. Very direct. Clear cut opinions. I like it. He looks town right now and will be easy to analyze later on when we have flips.

Rhinox - My first thought is that he seems quieter than usual. That can easily be explained by the large game though. I lean town, but am definitely interested to see what I'll find when I read up. Kublai vote looks legit. Calls the first 12 pages noise. Seems like he'd be able to pull
something
out of it. At least something more than just Kublai is scum. He's going on about the noise thing too much and I don't like the "I don't fit in" stuff about a dinosaur era and whatever. It looks like excuses to me. You have to adapt. Sees me at L-1 and says the case sucks but I'm not townish. So he's fencesitting. Avoiding the wagon, but leaving options open. Hmm. Wonder why I didn't see this scum earlier.

Shattered- Looks lost. I don't think he's scummy though. First content post is a bunch of reads. But when you look closer it's a lot of stuff that is supposed to develop into reads, not reads themselves. Reads do get a little more solid. Vote moves around some. So he has opinions and they are out there, but I'd like to see more. Slight town read.

Socio - Earlier I feel like he threw reads around, but I can't remember anything recent he's done. Ok, I'm looking at his ISO and pulling nothing out of the first 12 posts or so because of posts like "I'd vote him". His vote was parked on reck for a while and I think it was a joke vote. Has a problem with a lot of town reads on him. Huh? His first mention of me is an unexplained vote. Keeps calling Reck and DGB scum while voting me and saying nothing about it. Then he switches his vote around like five times. I dunno what to think about this one. Seems to be lurker hunting, but also made the comment that we need to lynch those who won't help town and might be scum rather than those who might be scum, but might help if town. It looks like an honest mentality, but could be some kind of weird cover. I think he's town, but he seems sketchy.

Spring - She's escaping attention very well. Did the sideline thing by "siding with kuribo". Voted me cuz it was the cool thing to do (Or maybe because I called her scum). A lot of discrediting on my case on her. And my Fate case (connection?). Votes Kuribo for being vulgar. She keeps popping in with maybe a read or two just to seem like she's not lurking. I don't like it.

Spy - Votes me early on without explaining. Calls my first reads post bad without saying why until realizing saying it's bad didn't work. When he looked at it, he just crossed off a bunch of stuff and said "see, nothing". Switches to Pine and part of his reasoning is Pine's vote on me, who Spy thinks is scum. Huh? Spy is fitting in more than hunting scum. Very basic tell here.

Reck - I still think he is town. He is consistant in his thoughts/reads. He's pushing his thoughts. Wow,my eyes hurt and this ISO isn't helping. A lot of caps and noise. Not gonna sift through for a guy I'm pretty sure is town.

zd- Seemed like Chunk and Pine earlier as far as reads/reasons and what not, but seems to have fallen off the radar. Hmm. Actually, first few posts don't look that way at all. Just seem reads and no reasons behind them. Explains a little more as the game goes on. Votes Elvis and gives a case with it. I don't agree with the case, but it looks genuine. Switches to Khan because he has no support for Elvis. Meh, I think he's town, but not as town as I thought before.

Grimm
Lowell
Chunk
Kuribo

Pine
Elvis
reck
DGB

Hind
ZD
Socio
Shattered

MME
Khan
Sera
Spring

Rhinox
Elli
Fate
Spy
[/b]

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:41 pm
by kuribo
elvis_knits wrote:Kuribo - is growing on me.


I'm like a tumor.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:43 pm
by Sleepless Assassin
chunkykev wrote:
Sleepless Assassin wrote:I'll be doing those reads this afternoon just so everyone knows. Just finished career related stuff that you don't care about that took almost 2 hours, then I have something else that will take maybe an hour, then after my girlfriend's lunch break, this game has my mostly undivided attention.


So you've been doing stuff for 2 hours that we don't care about (so true :p) but that's done so don't see the point in telling us. You still have stuff to do for about an hour, then your girlfriend's lunch break then this game has your mostly undivided attention.

Considering you posted this over 5 hours ago now, that is one hell of a lunch break! Going to my bed now (after midnight here) and curious if they'll be anything when I get up in the morning.


Lunch break was from 5PM to 6PM. It's 7:42PM and I just finished. Not sure why this is important.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:44 pm
by kuribo
xRECKONERx wrote:he also lurks hardcore as town sooo


this man knows because we've seen it firsthand :(

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:52 pm
by Seraphim
Alright.

kuribo is town and annoying to read. Kublai Khan is town.

That's all I've gotten from the first 13 pages or so.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:07 pm
by kuribo
chunkykev wrote:So you've been doing stuff for 2 hours that we don't care about (so true :p) but that's done so don't see the point in telling us. You still have stuff to do for about an hour, then your girlfriend's lunch break then this game has your mostly undivided attention.Considering you posted this over 5 hours ago now, that is one hell of a lunch break! Going to my bed now (after midnight here) and curious if they'll be anything when I get up in the morning.


what the crap is this?

now you're just reaching, which is hilarious since i think you're both scum