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Okay, lets do this (just a note, I'm typing this on notepad, so LOLSPELLING)
First, let's start with
TGAH
and his interactions. Assuming that TGAH's role means that he knows who the scum are, but they do not know who he is. In this situation, as I think I read someone mention, he will try minimaize attacks on his "masters" and attempt to push lynches away from them. So anything like strong attacks on players would be indicative that he's most likely not a traitor to them.
As I already pointed out, his sided interaction with
Zdenek
does not make Zdenek look very good. Eh, he just seems like he's soft-defending him at times while also using it as a window of opportunity to launch an agressive attack elsewhere (mostly Jason?). Almost like chainsawing. This is the feel I get from
819. It just seems like he is going for the low hanging fruit [jason] while at the same time soft-defending Zdenek. This is also followed up in a bit with
826, which really reads like he's attempting to pressure Jason into getting a townread on Zdenek, and attempting to minimize any suspicion cast on that slot. His only other notable mention of Zdenek is in
898, which really reads fucking terrible for Zdenek. The fact that TGAH never actually states that he has a townread on zdenek, while at the same time pushing the idea that they're town and trying to pressure people by questioning them on their townreads is reading off. The question in 898 actually serves no purpose UNLESS TGAH actually had a townread on Zdenek, otherwise him attempting to object against someone else on their opinion of the claim while at the same time having no strong opinion yourself can somewhat clearly indicate traitor-master interaction. Also, since I forgot that Zdenek had replaced Mcstab, re-looking at TGAH's interaction with Mcstab, he never really mentions a strong opinion one way or another on them. The only thing that might be worth something is
192. Call it confirmation bias or whatever, but that really is reading like traitor-master interaction. Again he's chainsawing by softly attacking DV for his read on the Zdenek/Mcstab slot. Not to mention that he never actually jumped on the Zdenek wagon even though it was competing with his wagon at some point. Right? He kinda just lurked through the thread and then when Zdenek "claimed" that he came in and then did that soft chainsaw against benmage? The only thing stopping me from voting that slot right now is the claim tbh. I actually DO think that their claim will sooner or later indicate their alignment, but from a TGAH traitor prespective alone, the slot really really looks fucking terrible. I hope Benmage has some good(ish?) news to share, b/c it better not turn out Zdenek was roleblocked or some shit
Anyway, I agree with Pless now on both the Nost and my eariler Jason townreads because of TGAH's flip. I really don't think that
691 is likely to come from traitor interacting with his master. I mean I guess it can be faked and maybe TGAH kinda guessed he might've gotten lynched yesterday, or maybe realized that if he ever DOES get lynched it might be really bad to have all his masters on the town-side, etc, so he pushed one of his masters so that if he does ever get lynched, that master looks good? MEH. I mean, I really think that's a huge stretch, but I wouldn't put it past him. W/e. I still think that Jason is town b/c of it (for now?). The Nost town-read based on TGAH's flip is actually more concrete than Jason's, mainly b/c I really really don't see a traitor doing something like
115, where he literally jumped on that wagon and increased to 5 (I think?) making it by far the largest wagon at the time and pressuring Nost. I esp don't think he'd do it because Nost is most likely somewhat of a newbie, so adding pressure without knowing how good/bad his master will react is rather risky. I can possibly see him do it to a master he knows can handle the heat, but not someone who he is not familar with who might possibly not handle the heat? W/e. The only other POSSIBLE townread I can see is KISE. Mainly b/c I really don't think TGAH would mentioned both scum in the "vig" section in
971. Knowing he'll get lynched though, he could've possibly pointed in the RIGHT direction to his scumpartners on purpose so that we'd think he'd never do something like that? So one of Scotty or Dan can also possibly be scum because of this? Prob lean towards dan more actually. Mainly because he never actually mentioned any strong opinions on Dan before that, and it kinda just came out of thin air. Konowa said in
837 that he would lynch Dan or Jason, which I'm actually not sure if he means compromise on or actual suspects. Either way, the Dan read DID come out of thin air, because the slot had not mentioned any strong suspicion of that slot previously. Furthermore, while he actually does say he'd be willing to lynch both of those, he never actually moves to Dan. I mean I get that he just claimed in the post before, but the lack of voting for him is irking me. There is also a mention of peta in
612, where he states "peta, absta, safety and plessie all need the rope", yet he never actually pushes peta
(granted, though, he doesn't actually really push ANYONE besides jason, so I'm not sure how much of a tell that is
)
Okay, so I'll be looking at
Absta
interactions now, which I will prob not finish today. Almost def not finish the other-sided interactions, as it's getting pretty late here.
Nah, forget that. I'm heading to bed
(PS: Did I mention somewhere that scotty is leaning slightly town b/c of TGAH? Yea, he is. Can't really remember why exactly right now, but just wanted to say that <_<)
