Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:09 am
Hence why levi was told he was vanilla yet got a vengeful kill when DDD died.
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:10 am
Levi, in your original role PM what information were you given?
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:16 am
I'm Black Dragon Kalameet, VT.
I'm thinking HD and Fourtrubs. Up and down. I'm not seeing Levi scum and 4T is angling whatever he can to get suspicion away from him. Classic scum move.
I'm thinking HD and Fourtrubs. Up and down. I'm not seeing Levi scum and 4T is angling whatever he can to get suspicion away from him. Classic scum move.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:54 am
Nacho is bulletproof. I guess that explains the no kill.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:44 pm
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:58 pm
↑ leviathan93 wrote:
Dragon Slayer Orstein part of vanilla town. then when DDD died I got another private message saying I got to use a revenge kill.
So in your Pm there was no mention of DDD?
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:58 pm
I'm not scum and I'm not pushing for any angle to get suspicion off me, I'm analyzing the game from the perspective that I'm town. You should be asking whether what I'm saying makes sense from a town perspective.
If HD is scum, for sure Empking is scum just based on HD's completely unrealistic suspicion of Empking throughout the entire game.
If HD is scum, for sure Empking is scum just based on HD's completely unrealistic suspicion of Empking throughout the entire game.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:53 pm
↑ FourTrouble wrote:If HD is scum, for sure Empking is scum just based on HD's completely unrealistic suspicion of Empking throughout the entire game.
Why wouldn't he push him irrationally as scum? That doesn't make sense. It's null.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:49 pm
not by name. just that my long term partner was executioner smough. so he was town whoever was him. i just didn't know who executioner smough was until DDD died.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:52 pm
Unvote
I think that's quite a different role from the one you claimed originally, but it sort of makes sense.
I'm willing o hammer HD when we're ready to end this day.
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:52 pm
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:15 pm
Obviously, either HD or ThAd is scum. The issue here is who the last scum is. The no-kill was obviously the result of scum targeting Nacho so he's town. Levi's claim makes sense, as Nacho pointed out. That leaves Empking or VP as scum.
Empking started D2 off by immediately pushing for an Iece lynch instead of a PV lynch. I'd say that's definitely opportunistic/informed -- trying to get a wagon going on Iece (VP's major suspect after PV) before pressure picked up on PV again. When you factor in HD's unrealistic obsession Empking, it feels like scum-on-scum bussing.
Empking started D2 off by immediately pushing for an Iece lynch instead of a PV lynch. I'd say that's definitely opportunistic/informed -- trying to get a wagon going on Iece (VP's major suspect after PV) before pressure picked up on PV again. When you factor in HD's unrealistic obsession Empking, it feels like scum-on-scum bussing.
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:02 am
↑ FourTrouble wrote:I'm not scum and I'm not pushing for any angle to get suspicion off me, I'm analyzing the game from the perspective that I'm town. You should be asking whether what I'm saying makes sense from a town perspective.
If HD is scum, for sure Empking is scum just based on HD's completely unrealistic suspicion of Empking throughout the entire game.
You're also speaking like you know HD is scum, but you sure as hell aren't acting that way. You're acting like you want us to be like "oh, right, Empking is scum and not you" and then you will hammer away.
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:03 am
VOTE: Human Destroyer
...just shut up.
...just shut up.
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:06 am
That would've been optimal a while ago, HD.
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:10 am
Also, you can't kill VPB tonight because you have to shoot ThAd before he tracks FT...
Killing jason was a poor decision. He was town as shit, but he was also pretty much confirmed VT :/
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:39 pm
lol, nicely done Nacho. Thanks for stepping up today. You too ThAd. *brofist*
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:13 pm
"No, no.
That, no.
That no warm.
That no soft."
That, no.
That no warm.
That no soft."
6th and fianl vote count of Day four
Human Destroyer: 4 (Nachomamma8, ThAdmiral, leviathan93, Human Destroyer)
leviathan93: 1 (Empking)
Not voting: 2 (FourTrouble, VP Baltar)
A lynch has been reached, mod scene up coming.
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:25 pm
I guess it shouldn't be a surprised that the pressure got to this one. But still, can't help but be a little disappointed. More fight would have been nice, but you can't always get want you want.
Chosen Undead? I think not.
Chosen Undead? I think not.
Human Destroyer
was lynched. He was Siegmeyer of Catarina: Posioner
Dark Souls mafia.
Night four has started. It will end in (expired on 2013-04-14 20:00:00) If you have a night action get in before the time runs out or it will be forfeit.
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:01 pm
Another night another death, things are back to normal. You all gather around feeling triumphant from the day before. Sorry to be the one to break the bad news, but one of your own died a terrible death last night. Does that make you feel guilty about your sound night sleep?
No?
Hmm... Well it's not like you're human is it? Just a pack of wild monsters....
No?
Hmm... Well it's not like you're human is it? Just a pack of wild monsters....
ThAdrimal
was killed on night four. He was the Capra demon: Tracker/Watcher
Dark Souls town
It is now Day five. With
5
alive it will take 3
to lynch.Deadline for the end of the day is in (expired on 2013-04-28 18:00:00)
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:32 pm
Vote Empking
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:35 pm
How exactly is Emp scum with Pere and HD again?
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:16 pm
It is a combination of POE (either HD or VP unless Nacho/Levi are awesome fake-claimers) + the interactions between PV/HD/Empking.
PV defends Empking in 29 from me but in 35 ignores HD's attack on Empking. PV attempting to defend Empking from town (me), no need to defend Empking from someone who already knows Empking is scum. Then, in 189 and 235, PV implicitly defends Empking again:
PV responds to Tiger's attack on Empking by defending Iece, ignoring Empking, and voting for SK. Why respond to Tiger's post, completely ignore Empking, and then vote for someone else entirely? The only way I see this making any sense is if Empking is PV's partner, and PV was trying to redirect Tiger's vote to SK while avoiding an explicit connection with Empking.
I discussed HD's obsession with Empking Yesterday. HD's suspicion of Empking is unrealistic. It looks awfully similar to HD's certainty that PV was scum. When you look closer, it doesn't look like HD has any emotions regarding either his votes on PV or Empking. For example, in 251 it looks like HD has forgotten his early push on Empking. If you compare HD's certainty that Empking/PV are scum with HD's case on Rest, it looks like HD is trying much harder to make a case on Rest than either Empking or PV. In fact, HD's confidence regarding both of them doesn't look like scum-town, especially in light of HD's lack of confidence regarding Rest, which we KNOW was scum-town.
Empking himself takes no position on PV. He lodges his vote on Iece and leaves it there, voting for Iece as pressure mounts on PV as well as at the start of D2. Empking then sticks on Levi the entirety of D4 until it becomes clear HD is gonna get lynched. Empking has clearly been trying to direct pressure away from both PV and HD.
PV defends Empking in 29 from me but in 35 ignores HD's attack on Empking. PV attempting to defend Empking from town (me), no need to defend Empking from someone who already knows Empking is scum. Then, in 189 and 235, PV implicitly defends Empking again:
↑ PeregrineV wrote:
Meh. Add Rest to that.
Vote: SaintKerrigan
PV responds to Tiger's attack on Empking by defending Iece, ignoring Empking, and voting for SK. Why respond to Tiger's post, completely ignore Empking, and then vote for someone else entirely? The only way I see this making any sense is if Empking is PV's partner, and PV was trying to redirect Tiger's vote to SK while avoiding an explicit connection with Empking.
I discussed HD's obsession with Empking Yesterday. HD's suspicion of Empking is unrealistic. It looks awfully similar to HD's certainty that PV was scum. When you look closer, it doesn't look like HD has any emotions regarding either his votes on PV or Empking. For example, in 251 it looks like HD has forgotten his early push on Empking. If you compare HD's certainty that Empking/PV are scum with HD's case on Rest, it looks like HD is trying much harder to make a case on Rest than either Empking or PV. In fact, HD's confidence regarding both of them doesn't look like scum-town, especially in light of HD's lack of confidence regarding Rest, which we KNOW was scum-town.
Empking himself takes no position on PV. He lodges his vote on Iece and leaves it there, voting for Iece as pressure mounts on PV as well as at the start of D2. Empking then sticks on Levi the entirety of D4 until it becomes clear HD is gonna get lynched. Empking has clearly been trying to direct pressure away from both PV and HD.
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:53 pm
The idea that I was strongly trying to keep PV from getting lynched is rubbish. I never thought PV was scummy, I thought Iece was scummier and like a lot of the town I never voted PV. I was wrong, but the idea that I was trying to direct pressure away from PV is nonsense; 'the town has caught my buddy, I better put my vote on Iece that's sure to disperse it'.
I also didn't try to direct pressure from HD. Once HD falseclaimed he was caught and filleted, I just wanted answers from Levi's inconsistent claim and wouldn't have got them if I asked and unvoted.
I also didn't try to direct pressure from HD. Once HD falseclaimed he was caught and filleted, I just wanted answers from Levi's inconsistent claim and wouldn't have got them if I asked and unvoted.
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:34 pm
who's scum, emp?