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In post 1010, Desperado wrote:If Krabs were Doctor or Cop then I think he would have claimed when he felt threatened enough to soft claim, as other people have already stated.

I can't control the way other people vote, and you calling me bad because of your unconfirmed reads on other players who are also voting similarly to me is just astounding.

Finally, what do you suggest if he never finds a Krab replacement then?

In post 1009, Svenskt Stål wrote:

In post 1007, Desperado wrote:I'm scum because I'm not in favor of "extending the deadline

for as long as it takes to replace squid and Krab

"?

He's already been looking for two three days, and this is now a 41 page day one. What if he never finds both replacements? Or even one? We just sit here, waiting, posting, and making the game even longer and less appealing to a potential replacement?

And I specifically said

"if these are my only two options,"

implying that if there was an option for three days, or five days, or a week, that I would be in favor of it. But I'm not going to commit myself to a game that may never end.

Thats the scummy part.

Its not the first thing that doesnt sit well with me.

WHat if krabs is doctor or cop?

Doctor C Niall DeMencha, Amethyst Actor, xMALCOLMx, GoodCopBadCop, Skullduggery, Ravenpaw

You feel fine voting with these people? GTFO

Wagon stinks. You stink for having confidence in it

See you can't find a case for Krabs to be town, so you spout bullshit about why the wagon is wrong so he must be town, which is a mindset so warped you're quickly degrading my town read of you. You have been asked this question multiple times and deflected it every time. You can't answer it, and finally you just ask everyone to quit asking.

I'm not changing my vote. I believe Krabs has been scummy as hell and I believe it gives us the most information. Therefore, unless it's to get a lynch in at the 11th hour, vote stays.

I understand heat of the moment intensity, no apologies necessary.

And I was just responding in kind to your attitude towards me--consider your last two lines a mutually agreed contract.

The bottomline is that, replacements or not, we aren't going to get anywhere when we so many inactive/unengaged players that are also not attached to a viable lynch. If the mod finds a Squid replacement then I assume the day will end as scheduled, so we should operate as though we have 17 hours to decide this.

PEdit: Granted and noted on the first two points, but as to the third, do you understand now that what you read and what I said were not the same thing? As I said in the quote, I was responding to a concern that you had and have since conceded. You are the one who put forth the "we can't just lynch Krab because he might be a PR" defense, I was reminding you that your concern was no longer legitimate. You chose to interpret that as "I know he's town."

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In post 1038, Svenskt Stål wrote:

In post 1033, xMALCOLMx wrote:Oh shit Krabs really is town isn't he?

You being a scumfuck again Svet? Not wanting to lynch D1 like in Flavorless? Oh Em Gee so meta.

Are you a fucking retard?

Like a love child of arcangel and arcangel, that got dropped on its head.

lol

In post 1077, Nexus wrote:Day 1 ends when I find a replacement for Squidward.

In post 1079, Desperado wrote:

In post 1077, Nexus wrote:Day 1 ends when I find a replacement for Squidward.

Can you be more specific please?

Uh I really need to catch up with this thread

Rated R and Jebus, if I move to the Malcolm wagon, will you?

In post 1045, RATEDR wrote:

In post 964, Skullduggery wrote:How so? Have you never seen Scum replace out of a game before?

Not really, no, is it a common habit here in MS? I don't deny that Krab would be equally frustrated as Town or Mafia with his situation, but I thought that frustration was the first piece of organic reaction krab gave in the whole game (and last), he had come across as wooden the rest of the game, which is what made me suspect him in the first place.

From what I've seen, yes, people replace out of games here all the time regardless of their alignment. Replacing out of a game is not a Town-tell.

In post 1045, RATEDR wrote:Crumbed traitor? What?

This:

In post 55, RATEDR wrote:Also, its with shame and guilt that I admit that I am not part of the Shield, and would love to be.

In post 992, MonkeyMan576 wrote:My possible votes today are Desperado, GCBC, Malcolm, Ravenpaw, ArcAngel9, and Skull.

Keeping your options open, I see. And hey, look at that, this is almost all the players on the Krab Bucket wagon. What a bizarre coincidence.

In post 1002, MonkeyMan576 wrote:

In post 998, Ravenpaw wrote:

In post 992, MonkeyMan576 wrote:

In post 990, Ravenpaw wrote:Do something helpful and vote for Krabs.

I would, if I thought he was scum.

Why do you think he's town?

Mostly the people on his wagon.

In post 1018, MonkeyMan576 wrote:No one looks like they are moving from the Krab wagon(cause it's a scum driven wagon and they are mostly scum)

How do you know that the Krab wagon is mostly Scum? You know all of our alignments already? Also, how do you make the logical leap from "This wagon is probably mostly Scum" to "This wagon is clearly on a Town player"? Wagons can form on players of any alignment. How does a wagon you don't agree with make Krab Town?

In post 1014, Svenskt Stål wrote:my biggest concern with krabs is the people voting him.

In post 1036, Svenskt Stål wrote:I wouldnt care if krabs was my number one suspect, I would never vote with that group.

In post 1037, Svenskt Stål wrote:Let me explain this. Krabs could be my number one suspect, I would never vote him with that group of people.

Are you serious? If you were that Krab was Scum, you wouldn't vote for him just because you found the other people on his wagon distasteful? How does that make sense? You would willingly choose not to pursue your top Scum read for...what, fear of being associated with people you find scummy? You're the last person in this game that I would have expected to worry about what others thought about him.

In post 1058, Mutleyddmc wrote:I suppose I should claim. I am VT

In post 1059, Mutleyddmc wrote:Kofi Kingston at that! Didnt even see that bit in the PM. Was wondering as I posted why I wasn't a WWE superstar.

This...seems really peculiar to me. You saw your role, but not your character name...even though they're right next to each other?

You know what my role PM looks like? It lists my wrestler name and my role right next to each other in one sentence. I imagine this is the case for every Town player in the game. How do you see the role but not the wrestler? Is it because your role PM has a separate section at the bottom for safe-claims?

In post 1017, Svenskt Stål wrote:If they share your view that krabs, as scum, would go "might aswell claim"... then he doesnt and states that he will fight, then he subs out. Yeah that seems pretty fucking scummy. SCUM would just claim doctor or cop or whatever. What I saw from krabs is doubt.

Scum prob knows this and wants to get krabs lynched.

You are retards and scum voting krabs.

Here's the problem with that. Krab's "Might as well claim soon" shenanigans were in post 624. Post 625 was his last post of the game. At that time, his wagon had six people on it. The only other person to join the wagon after that is Ravenpaw in 676,

If Krab was Town and he soft-claimed a PR like that, don't you think more Scum players would have tried to surreptitiously push the wagon after that? Don't you think more Scum players would have seized the opportunity to get a potential PR lynched?

Instead, the wagon stays at seven votes for twenty friggin' pages. There are two possibilities why the Scum team isn't pushing that wagon more: either because Krab is Scum himself or because the entire Scum team is already on the wagon. You tell me how likely the second possibility is. (Answer: not very.)

Mutt's claim doesn't mesh with what Krabs was trying to soft claim. Mutt/Krabs is town

Malcom isn't ordering people around because Malcom is not Nacho, it's Nacho and Kise and I don't even think Nacho has posted recently. Further more, Kise has been ordering people around

Krabs was opportunisic, Krabs gave off Scum AtE, Krabs attacks are absolute shit and their targets of choice is obv opportunistic, there are various reasons on scumkrabs, no reason for townkrabs and the fact that he may be your top suspect but won't vote because you have other people on that wagon you don't like is complete shit.

Monkey, why do you have Krabs as town you didn't answer that question, no one is.

In post 1085, Amethyst Actor wrote:Mutt's claim doesn't mesh with what Krabs was trying to soft claim. Mutt/Krabs is town

Malcom isn't ordering people around because Malcom is not Nacho, it's Nacho and Kise and I don't even think Nacho has posted recently. Further more, Kise has been ordering people around

Krabs was opportunisic, Krabs gave off Scum AtE, Krabs attacks are absolute shit and their targets of choice is obv opportunistic, there are various reasons on scumkrabs, no reason for townkrabs and the fact that he may be your top suspect but won't vote because you have other people on that wagon you don't like is complete shit.

Monkey, why do you have Krabs as town you didn't answer that question, no one is.

I have Krabs as town because of my perception of the Krabs wagon vs. the Malcolm/GCBC wagons.

I still don't think that "he replaced out" is a good argument for being a PR scum. I understand the argument for the "pro-*stated before*", but it just doesn't seem real. Townies don't want to get Modkilled either, y'know?

Jesus.

Desperado, you're setting of my scumdar in horrific ways, but I can't figure out if it's because of the way you're phrasing things.

Your suggestion that KrabMutley's claim of a non PR "removes an obstacle to being lynched" is just so staggeringly bad it makes me want to claw my eyes out. In no way, shape or form does someone not being a PR make it acceptable for them to be lynched as town.

Therefore the question becomes "do I believe KrabMutley?"

And, yes, I do. I view Krab's "I might as well claim" depressed departure as genuine.

Vote stays.

Goat, you just aren't reading my posts or interactions with anyone then.

Sven brought up that defense first. He made it an obstacle. "We can't just lynch Krab because he might be a PR" is what Sven said. Are you following me?

So now Mutley has claimed that he is not a PR, he is a VT. Therefore, the obstacle that Sven created ("he might be a PR!") is no longer valid. Do you get it?

Where did I say it is acceptable to lynch someone who is town because they are not a PR? I think Krab is scum. His claiming VT has literally no effect on my read, while had he claimed a PR, it very well could have. Are you saying this is unusual?

In post 1089, Desperado wrote:Goat, you just aren't reading my posts or interactions with anyone then.

Sven brought up that defense first. He made it an obstacle. "We can't just lynch Krab because he might be a PR" is what Sven said. Are you following me?

So now Mutley has claimed that he is not a PR, he is a VT. Therefore, the obstacle that Sven created ("he might be a PR!") is no longer valid. Do you get it?

Where did I say it is acceptable to lynch someone who is town because they are not a PR? I think Krab is scum. His claiming VT has literally no effect on my read, while had he claimed a PR, it very well could have. Are you saying this is unusual?

Will reread.

Again, it may be how you phrase things.

In post 1089, Desperado wrote:Goat, you just aren't reading my posts or interactions with anyone then.

Sven brought up that defense first. He made it an obstacle. "We can't just lynch Krab because he might be a PR" is what Sven said. Are you following me?

So now Mutley has claimed that he is not a PR, he is a VT. Therefore, the obstacle that Sven created ("he might be a PR!") is no longer valid. Do you get it?

Where did I say it is acceptable to lynch someone who is town because they are not a PR?

I think Krab is scum.

His claiming VT has literally no effect on my read, while had he claimed a PR, it very well could have. Are you saying this is unusual?

You very well may have stated why you find this. If you can, please link or summarize. If no, I will look.

In post 1082, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Rated R and Jebus, if I move to the Malcolm wagon, will you?

Hell no

In post 1091, The Goat wrote:

In post 1089, Desperado wrote:Goat, you just aren't reading my posts or interactions with anyone then.

Sven brought up that defense first. He made it an obstacle. "We can't just lynch Krab because he might be a PR" is what Sven said. Are you following me?

So now Mutley has claimed that he is not a PR, he is a VT. Therefore, the obstacle that Sven created ("he might be a PR!") is no longer valid. Do you get it?

Where did I say it is acceptable to lynch someone who is town because they are not a PR?

I think Krab is scum.

His claiming VT has literally no effect on my read, while had he claimed a PR, it very well could have. Are you saying this is unusual?

You very well may have stated why you find this. If you can, please link or summarize. If no, I will look.

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oo oo oo Despo and Goat are gonna distance from each other.

oo oo oo Despo and Goat are gonna distance from each other.

In post 1095, Nero Cain wrote:oo oo oo Despo and Goat are gonna distance from each other.

Perfect example of how you can twist things into whatever you want. You think we are both scum (for whatever reason, you keep dodging my questions so I can't say for sure), so there are basically three options: either we never address one another, in which case obvscum avoiding each other...we disagree with each other about something, in which case obvscum distancing, or we agree on something, in which case obvscum buddying.

Dodging legitimate questions and confirmation biased scumhunting are not a recipe for a town slot. Why have you kept you vote on Goat despite 1) virtually no more support for his lynch and 2) no effort on your part to change that as the deadline has approached?

maybe the fact that I haven't been really paying attention to this game and need to read and catch up.

In post 1097, Nero Cain wrote:maybe the fact that I haven't been really paying attention to this game and need to read and catch up.

Well, when one instance was a direct response to something you posted to me (which I would expect you to care about if you were actually invested in scumhunting me), and the other came 7 minutes after you reiterated your desire to lynch me without going into it any further, it looks more like dodging. You're reading the thread enough to pop up and call me scum from the sidelines, aren't you?

Sure but you asked me why there are unanswered questions and I'm telling you why.