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Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:25 pm**

In post 1050, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Ghostlin: After an ISO after Varsoon's read, scummy.

Elaborate. You have Var as a null, so how does my interaction with him seem scummy? Also, how does my last two votes and I'm quoting you here 'scumreads many people, never votes them without support,' considering my votes have been on Mac/you, neither of which anyone's joined me on?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:25 pm**

Ghostlin gimme your scumgames.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PRESS "SUBMIT" sdkjdfkdfklfdkldfklswakjfklfg

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:26 pm**

In post 1074, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1068, Mac wrote:
In post 1064, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1062, GuyInFreezer wrote:K.
@V: what exactly of orc's "bossy play" irked you?

Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
this is orc as a player in general.

p-edit yeah I got that.
I'm aware, was in another game with him and he was just as frustrating. I don't like basing my town-tells and scum-tells off of meta-experience, so I pushed Orc's buttons and he's pretty town for me in this game.

@GIF: I'm unsure if town would do that. S'why I had to mess with Orc in the ways I did. Like I said, he's confirmed himself to me as town by now.

If you were aware of this being orc's play why did it strike you as confident scum rather than just orc?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:26 pm**

In post 1074, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1068, Mac wrote:
In post 1064, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1062, GuyInFreezer wrote:K.
@V: what exactly of orc's "bossy play" irked you?

Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
this is orc as a player in general.

p-edit yeah I got that.
I'm aware, was in another game with him and he was just as frustrating. I don't like basing my town-tells and scum-tells off of meta-experience, so I pushed Orc's buttons and he's pretty town for me in this game.

@GIF: I'm unsure if town would do that. S'why I had to mess with Orc in the ways I did. Like I said, he's confirmed himself to me as town by now.

This almost looks good

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:28 pm**

@V: how exactly I ended in your weak scumread and null to very next post?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:30 pm**

GiF- anything else, or was that it?

p-edit- when did I say your interataction with Var was scummy?
those were iso reads, and I misrep those, I apologize. And you never backed up your vote with a scumread, you just said "oh this guy is inactive, scum is inactive, let's vote him!"

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[quote="GuyInFreezer]HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PRESS "SUBMIT" sdkjdfkdfklfdkldfklswakjfklfg[/quote]
GIF I KNOW D: 4th time pressing submit

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:32 pm**

In post 1077, Mac wrote:
In post 1074, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1068, Mac wrote:
In post 1064, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1062, GuyInFreezer wrote:K.
@V: what exactly of orc's "bossy play" irked you?

Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
this is orc as a player in general.

p-edit yeah I got that.
I'm aware, was in another game with him and he was just as frustrating.
I don't like basing my town-tells and scum-tells off of meta-experience, so I pushed Orc's buttons and he's pretty town for me in this game
.

@GIF: I'm unsure if town would do that. S'why I had to mess with Orc in the ways I did. Like I said, he's confirmed himself to me as town by now.
If you were aware of this being orc's play why did it strike you as confident scum rather than just orc?

I tend to judge players on a game-by-game basis. See the bolded.

In post 1079, GuyInFreezer wrote:@V: how exactly I ended in your weak scumread and null to very next post?

That's the difference between where you are now and where you were in reaction to Sven's claim.
I like the work you're doing here, but it's hard to figure out if you've fooled me into thinking you're amazing town or if you're actually just a really town player. Regardless, you've been doing a lot of pro-town work, so I see you as more town than not.

Oh, guys, I just discovered a gambit that'll let us figure out any player's alignment, but it'll only work once.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:33 pm**

In post 1080, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:GiF- anything else, or was that it?

p-edit- when did I say your interataction with Var was scummy?
those were iso reads, and I misrep those, I apologize. And you never backed up your vote with a scumread, you just said "oh this guy is inactive, scum is inactive, let's vote him!"

p-edit 2-
[quote="GuyInFreezer]HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PRESS "SUBMIT" sdkjdfkdfklfdkldfklswakjfklfg

GIF I KNOW D: 4th time pressing submit[/quote][/quote]

Also you;'re mis-repping me, I gave reasons a few posts down from the post you quote to claim I gave zero reasons.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:40 pm**

In post 978, Varsoon wrote:Ghostlin, it's interesting that you include me in your scum-list based off of things 500 posts ago, rather than what is currently happening.

WAIT

BUT YOU DID

EXACTLY THIS

TO ME

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:40 pm**

In post 1076, GuyInFreezer wrote:Ghostlin gimme your scumgames.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO PRESS "SUBMIT" sdkjdfkdfklfdkldfklswakjfklfg

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1875 ---Empking's Adjective Pick, it is a slight victim of the crash; I won this game as a particular variant of Godfather scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=19401-- Pet's Pick by Zo, I was lynched Day 2, Mafia Ninja
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=17439 --Acomist's Philosphy Mafia, I was a "Conditional Assassin", ergo a scum Vig, last one and Won
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=17202 -- Fringe Season 3, I was a Mafia Traitor and I lost the game, included for the sake of completeness
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=17959 -- Mass Effect Mafia, which ended in a draw. I was part of a hydra with Mute, who I imagine has left the site--but I posted alone this game.
If you'd like proof of me sucking in Large Themes, I even have a few games of that.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:40 pm**

your reasons were extremely inadequate. When confronted, you responded with "well, they're good enough for me"

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:42 pm**

In post 1052, Varsoon wrote:@GIF: D'oh.
Learned to be skeptical of Nacho,
That I couldn't put Orc in the town pile quite yet,
Orc's quick to abandon wagons and make noise
TD's picking up on the same skepticism of Nacho and is pretty town-motivated, actually (I wanted to press this for awhile, TD's town in my books for now)
2 is pretty aloof.
Cabd's a pro-town sheep.
GIF's playing a sparse, yet careful game.
BRO is skeptical town.
Mac's iffy, but seems town-motivated and careful.
Andrius is pro-town town, and generally thoughtful.

AJ and Sajin, I'm not so sure about
. I need to investigate these slots more. Seem like concerned town, but in a way that makes me feel scum may be there.

Anyways, that's a quick read-down of what I can recall from top of my head.

how are you getting "concerned town" from aj's posts? I get the opposite

I would say that about sajin but most definitely not aj

and what skepticism of nacho? nacho is town

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:43 pm**

Erm that's too much to read. Are those recent ones?

@TMT: tell me what you don't like about nacho.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:44 pm**

In post 1087, GuyInFreezer wrote:Erm that's too much to read. Are those recent ones?

@TMT: tell me what you don't like about nacho.

I left not too soon after the crash, so yes.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:45 pm**

@V: in your post 678, you mentioned you not liking orc's and 2's post as much.
Why didn't you like their posts?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:46 pm**

In post 1033, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:eta: also **** isn't even his real name and it isn't even his entire username wtf was that about

classy

- f

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:46 pm**

Wait. No. Give me a second. There was one game I replaced INTO as scum slot and lost because the Cop outed me the Day I first posted. It's a longish game, but you only need to read Day 3 for my meta:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4972745 --Jimmy Neutron Mafia, Mafia Goon.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:47 pm**

In post 1086, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1052, Varsoon wrote:@GIF: D'oh.
Learned to be skeptical of Nacho,
That I couldn't put Orc in the town pile quite yet,
Orc's quick to abandon wagons and make noise
TD's picking up on the same skepticism of Nacho and is pretty town-motivated, actually (I wanted to press this for awhile, TD's town in my books for now)
2 is pretty aloof.
Cabd's a pro-town sheep.
GIF's playing a sparse, yet careful game.
BRO is skeptical town.
Mac's iffy, but seems town-motivated and careful.
Andrius is pro-town town, and generally thoughtful.

AJ and Sajin, I'm not so sure about
. I need to investigate these slots more. Seem like concerned town, but in a way that makes me feel scum may be there.

Anyways, that's a quick read-down of what I can recall from top of my head.
how are you getting "concerned town" from aj's posts? I get the opposite

I would say that about sajin but most definitely not aj

and what skepticism of nacho? nacho is town

Before even more people misread this, these are reads based off of people's immediate reactions to Sven's claim.

I'm always skeptical of Nacho, but I do have him as town, too.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:49 pm**

In post 1089, GuyInFreezer wrote:@V: in your post 678, you mentioned you not liking orc's and 2's post as much.
Why didn't you like their posts?

Lots of highly reactionary posting, didn't seem to be doing that much town work nearly as much as it was just general chatting.
Lots of space filled but not much action happening, if that makes sense.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:49 pm**

Anyways, I'm out for now. I'll be back in a few hours, maybe.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:50 pm**

Seriously though, consider that Ghostlin lynch.
Also, I guess I'll keep my gambit a secret until you guys wanna enact it?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:51 pm**

How can we know whether we want to enact it if it's a secret?!

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:51 pm**

In post 1093, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1089, GuyInFreezer wrote:@V: in your post 678, you mentioned you not liking orc's and 2's post as much.
Why didn't you like their posts?
Lots of highly reactionary posting, didn't seem to be doing that much town work nearly as much as it was just general chatting.
Lots of space filled but not much action happening, if that makes sense.

Wait but

Your original posts on me told me to calm down and chill out, meaning I was too game oriented. You said I was a jerk for my game-heavy post on your entrance when you wanted to exchange pleasantries

So now you're suggesting I was chatting?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:52 pm**

In post 1050, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 1036, GuyInFreezer wrote:In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.
Ok. Let's go.

²: If it's ok, I'm going to read ² as one person and not two separate people. Same goes for Beast. ² is scum to me because he reads TD as scum with little to no base and seems to be ignoring TD's more towny posts.
Aj The Epic: Null-Scum. I perceive AtE in #945 but that's pretty much it.
Andrius: Null, lack of posts.
BeautyAndTheBeast: Town. Reading well and catching things and no scumreads as of yet.
BROseidon: No reads as of yet.
Cabd: Null-Scum, mainly for not specifying reads in #931.
dntfkingcare: Null, lack of posts.
Ghostlin: After an ISO after Varsoon's read, scummy.
GuyInFreezer: Town. No scumreads. I like you asking questions.
jon_h61: no posts.
Mac: Town for the most part, but look at his #811, #821, and #831. Detailed analysis AJ is scummy, waits for nacho to vote, then says he's "considering" voting as well?!?!?
Metal Sonic: Null (no posts)
orcinus_theoriginal: Town. No scumreads, and acts and reads town.
RachMarie: Agree with Mac's #1010. Seems to be ignoring large portions of the game.
Sajin: Null.
Svenskt Stål: Active lurking, seemingly. Active early on but quieter now. Lingering scumreads from the claim and such.
Nachomamma8: Null. Towny early in game, but I feel a little less so about that.
TiphaineDeath: Town, scummy early in game, but did a 180
TMTOLBTWNTOF: No comment
Varsoon: Null, I'm finding it hard to read him.

P EDIT

Gif- I did not "disappear," I was reading all 42 pages and typing this read post the whole goddamn time.

good to see you posting.

TD is a player that buldermar and I aren't agreeing on atm. Something would have to change my mind before we'd vote him today.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2013 12:55 pm**

In post 1087, GuyInFreezer wrote:Erm that's too much to read. Are those recent ones?

@TMT: tell me what you don't like about nacho.

I have a null-town read on him, mainly because of his early game play.
The reason it's slipped a little is because he seems to be ignoring certain points in favor of ones that support his reads.

² wrote: TD is a player that buldermar and I aren't agreeing on atm. Something would have to change my mind before we'd vote him today.

Ok, and for future reference, I really can't read hydras as seperate people because I am a new player to forum mafia and have no meta to speak of.

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