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or he knows Venmar is town but doesn't have a good reason to tell us why he's town...

so you think reck AS SCUM would be protecting a TOWN doublevoter?

I just find that super unlikely

reck is super cheeky, but I doubt he'd play THAT fast and loose

I'm sorry, UT. My steely, cold-hearted conservative values have given way to a softer, bleeding-heart liberal sympathetic pathos.

p.edit: I refuse to vote Venmar, Venmar votes me... not sure I follow any of it.

p.p.edit: Or I just don't want to lynch someone I have zero read on and is a claimed doublevoter over people I have actual feelings about?

p.p.p.edit: Dear god, yes, exactly what UT just said.

WHAT YEAR IS IT

actually fuck that vote, i think reck is town, don't feel like sheeping anymore



ill do something eventually?

do you know why you don't follow it? BECAUSE HE'S FUCKIN SCUM AND HAS NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH HIS VOTE

HE'S JUST SLINGIN THAT THING AROUND HOPING NOT TO HIT ANYTHING THAT'LL HIT BACK

yes ut, you got it, reck is hitting me back, that's why i unvoted him

brilliant

fucking

brilliant

there's literally no motivation for you to vote for him in that scenario

there is not a town mindset that says "ah yes, his actions make sense from the perspective of scum"

you just were saying "fuck I need to vote for something"

seriously pull up a chair and explain that reck vote.



I'm all fuckin ears

In post 1079, Venmar wrote:don't feel like sheeping anymore

reading comprehension is hard, really hard nowadays

in case you're still dumbfounded, i was sheeping sixty's read on reck before my vote on myself.

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In post 1069, chamber wrote:He appears to be a double voter when voting with you (thor) or majiffy(unknown?).

Venmar claimed Majiffy. :V You are bad at reading the joke's.

so is nero (what a surprise)

SIXTY DO U THINK IM PRETTY? :3

In post 1009, Katsuki wrote:He's obvious scum hedging on wagons.

YES YES YES

In post 1024, Tim Howard wrote:

In post 1004, Zdenek wrote:

In post 876, Tim Howard wrote:I would like to strongly encourage more dudes to hop on this awesome plum wagon. Seriously. Read FA's points on why she is a good place to put your vote!

What about those things do you think makes Plum scum?

Are these quotes helpful? Because I read both of these things and agreed with them 100%. (As a note, my Plumscumread hasn't gone away.)

In post 778, Flipping Awesome wrote:

In post 675, Plum wrote:Do I need to do the scummy thing and MAKE A CASE on NS for things to happen, though?

I liked the aggression in this post but I felt your response in Post 725 was underwhelming. You say a lot of stuff that doesn't resonate, then unvote and vote Tim.

In post 779, Flipping Awesome wrote:

Plum

feels scummy. Her walls feel fluffy and not like she is trying to drive the game forward and I am coming around to Penguin's scumread on her.

Well, I was hoping for your reasoning rather than quotes from F-16.
What didn't resonate with you?
Do you think that fluff posting is scummy?
Do you think that not trying to drive the game forward is scummy?

OK that part didn't go to plan, I'm-a skim the last few pages and make sure my vote is as productive as possible

In post 1056, Flipping Awesome wrote:Also, check through my links on Plum's meta like you did on me during Wicked and tell me what you see.

I looked at On a Boat. Her play there was definitely different, but she also got lynched in that game, so she could be correcting for that.

Most people don't have aspects to their scum play that they can't/don't correct for. As of Wicked you happened to have one - as far as I could tell at least. Plum's been around for awhile, so I'm not so optimistic that she'll have one. If I happen to have time tonight, I might look at something else, but no promises.

In post 1086, Venmar wrote:so is nero (what a surprise)

I knew you were a claimed Jiffy. More immature potshots!

In post 1067, xRECKONERx wrote:LLD & Sixty are better lynches.

Still happy with my Tim Howard vote.

I don't care how much he protects a town double voter when he's making posts like this. Still happy with where my vote is for the moment.

In post 1077, xRECKONERx wrote: p.p.p.edit: Dear god, yes, exactly what UT just said.

Wow yes fill my heart with townie goodness. It's so nice to use your own words innit?

read on Venmar, LLD

nm, you called him a town dv....

nm, you called him a town dv....

In post 1076, Untrod Tripod wrote:so you think reck AS SCUM would be protecting a TOWN doublevoter?

I just find that super unlikely

reck is super cheeky, but I doubt he'd play THAT fast and loose

It was in response to this post, honestly, but yeah I don't think Venmar is scum.

I'm not a fan of Reck being flat-out wrong on Tim calling him v Sixty "town v town" and I'm not convinced that it's an innocent mistake given that he initially seemed to take their post in the way that was intended. It's possible that it's just Reck losing track of something by nature of getting more invested into an argument and I got slight town vibes off some other of his posts in the last 10 pages so I'm going with a big fat fence-sit here - though that definitely puts him on a list of people for whom I would vote today.

On the other wagons:

Tim: Still have a solid townread on this slot and, while appreciating Cerulean's concerns about sheepreads like this backfiring before, they also frontfire at times (see: The Red Wedding, in which people listened to me until I doubted myself, which turned out to be a bad idea). I strongly urge all town players to just trust me on this shit for because it doesn't seem sensible to go against a strong read from a historically good source of reads, in the same way in which I would usually defer to, say, Sotty or Zach when reading Jason in the early game.

Venmar: I'm not a huge fan of Venmar's approach and what few of his reads I can actually remember but my consistent gut reaction is that he seems pretty similar to the Red Wedding game, where he was town, and I think his ability demonstration might suggest an impatient town mindset. I'd definitely sacrifice him over Tim but that's not saying very much.

Plum: Still think NS is a fairly lazy vote at the time but still think 542 comes across as townish and I think her behaviour seems pretty well in keeping with someone on the periphery of the game keeping just about as afloat and helpful as they feel they can be (i.e. not too far away from where I am right now). Think I would rather avoid a Plum lynch for the time being - seems like someone I'd feel better analysing when we've thinned the numbers a bit.

Katsuki: Honestly I can't tell shit about his alignment after 43 largely noisy posts and, in my slightly disconnected state, would be increasingly satisfied with a policy lynch here. At the moment, that's the most appealing of the votes on offer.

VOTE: Katsuki

Update on my Shadoweh read, because it's good manners: A handful of what I think are slight town-pings over the last 10-15 pages that can put her back into 'pretty null, given that I have absolutely no baseline of reading her' territory but I will go back to the original things that bothered me Tomorrow or later Today if the wagon reappears.