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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:23 am
by Brian Skies
I didn't ask you, scum. And that's already been addressed.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:24 am
by Prof Fridays
Examining the motivations for dueling seems like it leads you invariably toward a town read on Porkens.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:25 am
by Spiffeh
In post 1073, Prof Fridays wrote:
In post 1054, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 1045, Spiffeh wrote:The bottom line is that no scum player would random duel today after all the shit Firebringer got for it last Day
In post 1045, Spiffeh wrote:The bottom line is that no scum player would random duel today after all the shit Firebringer got for it last Day
In post 1045, Spiffeh wrote:The bottom line is that no scum player would random duel today after all the shit Firebringer got for it last Day
In post 1045, Spiffeh wrote:The bottom line is that no scum player would random duel today after all the shit Firebringer got for it last Day
In post 1045, Spiffeh wrote:The bottom line is that no scum player would random duel today after all the shit Firebringer got for it last Day

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:25 am
by Brian Skies
In post 1021, UnrealSeal wrote:my theory is that Porkens is more sacrificing himself so Ircher can't use his ability today and his team will try to get at Ircher during the night

there's also the possibility Porkens is dumb!scum.

There's really just no town motivation behind his duel.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:27 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1067, Spiffeh wrote:If people are going to keep voting in favor of killing the obvious town player I'm probably just gonna stop posting and pray that I get night killed

It would be one thing if Porkens did this and Anti was contributing in a way I expect town!him to be contributing, but Anti has done next to nothing and Porkens has basically claimed a power role and again, would DEFINITELY not have dueled in this manner as scum.
Alright fine, if you say Anti isn't contributing as town!him would then I'll follow this path
VOTE: Porkens

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:27 am
by Prof Fridays
Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1021, UnrealSeal wrote:my theory is that Porkens is more sacrificing himself so Ircher can't use his ability today and his team will try to get at Ircher during the night

there's also the possibility Porkens is dumb!scum.

There's really just no town motivation behind his duel.
But the probability of those things are comparably infinitesimal.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:27 am
by Spiffeh
In post 1031, Spiffeh wrote:@UnrealSeal I don't see why you're not really considering the possibility that they are dumb!town?

I'd also think that Ircher would have one of Porkens' scum buddies in mind to duel if Porkens were to sacrifice himself in order to prevent Ircher's ability from activating. Who do you think that would be?

I feel like you're reaching to paint Porkens' move in a scummy light and ignoring the easier conclusion to draw: that they are town, weren't really paying attention, and just wanted to use the role that they've been hinting at
@Brian

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:29 am
by Brian Skies
I guess the optimal and most protown method to play this game is to selfishly insta-duel someone without regard for other players. Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to stake my claim tomorrow.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:30 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1068, Porkens wrote:OK SORT OF CLAIMING:

I need scrap. I'm fairly confident that I need scrap more than anyone else in the game, although I may have competition from <redacted>.

Me getting scrap sooner rather than later is important, especially with the apparent number of deaths per night.

Antihero may be some of all y'all's friend, but there is no town value there. And, yes, there are scumtells from Antihero too.

long and short: VOTE PORKENS
Third party.

Not a full claim, afraid, yeah, kill this.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:30 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Vote: Antihero

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:31 am
by Prof Fridays
In post 1082, Brian Skies wrote:I guess the optimal and most protown method to play this game is to selfishly insta-duel someone without regard for other players. Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to stake my claim tomorrow.
Neither Spiffeh nor I are making that claim.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:31 am
by Spiffeh
Or maybe I'm making the most of a shitty situation and going after the person that actually has a chance of flipping scum?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:31 am
by Brian Skies
In post 1085, Prof Fridays wrote:
In post 1082, Brian Skies wrote:I guess the optimal and most protown method to play this game is to selfishly insta-duel someone without regard for other players. Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to stake my claim tomorrow.
Neither Spiffeh nor I are making that claim.
No, but youre encouraging it.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:32 am
by Spiffeh
LLD why can't it be a town role?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:35 am
by Gammagooey
Porkens wrote:OK SORT OF CLAIMING:

I need scrap. I'm fairly confident that I need scrap more than anyone else in the game, although I may have competition from <redacted>.

Me getting scrap sooner rather than later is important, especially with the apparent number of deaths per night.

Antihero may be some of all y'all's friend, but there is no town value there. And, yes, there are scumtells from Antihero too.

long and short: VOTE PORKENS
k

VOTE: Unvote

Consider my vote on Porkens to win
Not actually voting until tomorrow b/c I'd really, really, really like the entire 48 hours for the lurkers to actually show up and play the game.

p-edit: I don't care about the potential spookiness of 3rd parties with 5 dead town and no dead scum yet

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:35 am
by Spiffeh
Yes Brian because punishing Firebringer for it yesterday worked really well in preventing the hasty random duels from happening today

If we keep punishing the behavior over finding/lynching the actual scum we're going to lose pretty quickly

Yes the random duels are really awful

There's not really anything to be done about that right now that doesn't continue to reduce town's chances at winning

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:37 am
by Brian Skies
In post 1090, Spiffeh wrote:Yes Brian because punishing Firebringer for it yesterday worked really well in preventing the hasty random duels from happening today

If we keep punishing the behavior over finding/lynching the actual scum we're going to lose pretty quickly

Yes the random duels are really awful

There's not really anything to be done about that right now that doesn't continue to reduce town's chances at winning
Okay, then I'll be sure to grab my instant duel tomorrow.

Because apparently people are going to do it anyway and Energon/Scrap is such a valuable resource. So I may as well stake my claim, right?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:37 am
by Brian Skies
In post 1090, Spiffeh wrote:Yes Brian because punishing Firebringer for it yesterday worked really well in preventing the hasty random duels from happening today

If we keep punishing the behavior over finding/lynching the actual scum we're going to lose pretty quickly

Yes the random duels are really awful

There's not really anything to be done about that right now that doesn't continue to reduce town's chances at winning
Okay, then I'll be sure to grab my instant duel tomorrow.

Because apparently people are going to do it anyway and Energon/Scrap is such a valuable resource. So I may as well stake my claim, right?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:39 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1088, Spiffeh wrote:LLD why can't it be a town role?
3 things

1) The incentive we were giving him about being town for dueling is removed if he's a third party who needs the scrap to be able to survive long term.
2) His half claim is not town. You know who else really likes scrap? Just about anyone in the game. Remember in literally every game I've ever been scum in and I do somehting like "here's my claim it's this reasonable power that makes sense and gets people to back off"
3) it's not that it can't be town, it's that I find it very hard to believe, given game state.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:42 am
by Porkens
That’s “junk”. Lld

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:44 am
by Brian Skies
Really? I find it completely reasonable.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:44 am
by Skygazer
yikes

so I'm inclined to vote porkens because i like spiffeh's line of reasoning regarding this but LLD also makes good points so im holding off for now while i think

rb asked me if my energon ability is like an innocent child and my answer to that is yeah p much

if there's a vig brian needs to catch a NK

(phone posting)

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:45 am
by Brian Skies
You're probably not 3rd party anyway, but I don't have a problem with anything she's said.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:46 am
by Brian Skies
In post 1096, Skygazer wrote:if there's a vig brian needs to catch a NK
Yes, please do so I don't have to play in this fiesta of a game anymore.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:25 am
by Papa Zito
In post 1068, Porkens wrote:OK SORT OF CLAIMING:

I need scrap. I'm fairly confident that I need scrap more than anyone else in the game, although I may have competition from <redacted>.

Me getting scrap sooner rather than later is important, especially with the apparent number of deaths per night.

Antihero may be some of all y'all's friend, but there is no town value there. And, yes, there are scumtells from Antihero too.

long and short: VOTE PORKENS
hmm

@Gamma:
hammer bros


VOTE: Porkens