watcher aka im seeing who comes off as scumist out of all the post and going to push some one on this day.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:31 am
by eth0s
In post 1047, Adorable wrote:Between the players I listed as scum on my read list, I'm leaning more on Wheme more likely to be scum. Sera hasn't been online for 11 days and we know for sure she definitely did not kill Cyan and whoever killed Cyan was more likely online yesterday and day before yesterday.
VOTE: Whemestar
Sera's activity is NAI. Scum can still kill even if one of them isn't playing.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:46 am
by osuka
In post 1044, TemporalLich wrote:osuka - 1033 is a pretty bad post. We're in A3 because Cyan flipped Doc. This seems to be indicative of osuka's low effort play.
i was drunk and i'm not going to blindly trust your cop claim. you're not confirmed until you flip
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:49 am
by osuka
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.
so what
do
you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:50 am
by cyrus62
yes bit if he flips cop we have no prs and then we have to trust town to find the scum and do you really trust town lol.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:54 am
by cyrus62
i mean realy so far only two or three town are good at hunting and looking the rest seem to blindly follow. but heres a another random queston . since we know theres rb out there whats to say lich isnt the rb?
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.
so what
do
you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?
We weren't close to the timer. We had 1 waiting replacement, and maybe even 2 waiting replacement when he started pushing a lynch. With 2 or 3 other players lurking. So There was very little encouragement for activity, 1-2 players awaiting replacement (I will check this for sure in a bit) and we had plenty of time yet he wanted to lynch someone. Scumreading that behavior.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:03 am
by eth0s
In post 1080, cyrus62 wrote:i mean realy so far only two or three town are good at hunting and looking the rest seem to blindly follow. but heres a another random queston . since we know theres rb out there whats to say lich isnt the rb?
we don't know that there is one because lich could be lying. But I actually already brought this possibility up. Well, more like I straight up accused him of being mafia RB
Weird. Phone could have been "claiming" Mafia Rolecop. So how would you 300% know that is false if you aren't scum? hmm
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:04 am
by eth0s
@Mod may we have the timer disabled while we wait for a replacement for Sera? She has been gone for like 11 days and we have had so many people missing. I think the game is negatively impacted by it.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:09 am
by eth0s
Anyway I have the mafia narrowed down to 4 people now. I don't want to disclose who all 4 of them are yet until I get to interact with some of you more but I will say I am totally okay with a cyrus lynch today and there is one other person I would like to lynch. The other 2 I would compromise on. But like I said, I don't want to go into this too much until I get some more interaction. For now: VOTE: cyrus62
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.
does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1
In post 1026, TemporalLich wrote:
if your cop claim is really true, that means there is a 50% chance of a mafia roleblocker
Where are you getting this number? I believe if he is telling the truth then we have to be playing A3 in which case these
IS
a mafia roleblocker.
out of my ass, evidently. I couldn't tell you because I got pretty drunk last night at a concert and don't really recall the thought process behind it. my bad
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.
does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1
We lynch the roleblocker and the cop is a threat again. Even moreso due to poe. I didn't wanna spell it out like this but at least one pr, probably 2 have already spelled out their roles on day one so I'm not trying to win the old fashioned way anymore. Gonna take some brute force to win this if Temp isn't lying.
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.
so what
do
you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?
We weren't close to the timer. We had 1 waiting replacement, and maybe even 2 waiting replacement when he started pushing a lynch. With 2 or 3 other players lurking. So There was very little encouragement for activity, 1-2 players awaiting replacement (I will check this for sure in a bit) and we had plenty of time yet he wanted to lynch someone. Scumreading that behavior.
fair - but wouldn't you say that him pushing for a lynch isn't actually pro-town? We did end up with a no-lynch, so anything short of lynching a claimed pr probably would've been better
@Mod may we have the timer disabled while we wait for a replacement for Sera? She has been gone for like 11 days and we have had so many people missing. I think the game is negatively impacted by it.
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.
does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1
We lynch the roleblocker and the cop is a threat again. Even moreso due to poe. I didn't wanna spell it out like this but at least one pr, probably 2 have already spelled out their roles on day one so I'm not trying to win the old fashioned way anymore. Gonna take some brute force to win this if Temp isn't lying.
entertain, for a second, the thought that the roleblocker might actually be in a somewhat comfortable position regarding being lynched. If scum feels like the RBer is in no danger, what is their incentive to kill lich?
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:22 am
by eth0s
Oh and if anyone thinks that my vote on cyrus was sketchy without giving any reasoning, please cut me some slack. Between last night and today I have put almost 10 hours into catching up, taking notes, and posting my thoughts on the game so far. If you want reasoning just check my ISO and look at what I've said about cyrus since the beginning.
In post 1048, eth0s wrote:OH YEAH one more thing that I didn't really touch on much last night that Sera brought up: why the hell did Cyrus want to put a lynch through so badly while we were waiting on a replacement? I won't attribute that to newb!cyrus. He should know better by now.
so what
do
you attribute that to? in general, being overly lynch happy comes from scum - but town never benefits from d1 NL. which way are you leaning here?
We weren't close to the timer. We had 1 waiting replacement, and maybe even 2 waiting replacement when he started pushing a lynch. With 2 or 3 other players lurking. So There was very little encouragement for activity, 1-2 players awaiting replacement (I will check this for sure in a bit) and we had plenty of time yet he wanted to lynch someone. Scumreading that behavior.
fair - but wouldn't you say that him pushing for a lynch isn't actually pro-town? We did end up with a no-lynch, so anything short of lynching a claimed pr probably would've been better
Either I'm confused or you meant to say "is pro town". But I didn't find it pro town due to the timing. If he wanted to go for a lynch withing, idk the last 30 hours of the timer then yeah that's fine but I'm talking about when there was like 5 days left or something.
In post 1009, cyrus62 wrote:this is why i was so pisst off off yesterday about both prs being outed now lich may as well just be town but then again it is easy to say your cop as scum maybe the real pr is still hideing still
but i will trust for another day. regardless.
We can't trust for another day. We have to figure out if he is the real PR or not TODAY. Because if he is telling the truth then he dies tonight.
does he really, though? if his cop claim is true, then the setup really does have a roleblocker. Which means that mafia can just keep him blocked, and there is no way for anyone to ever know whether we're in A3 or C1
We lynch the roleblocker and the cop is a threat again. Even moreso due to poe. I didn't wanna spell it out like this but at least one pr, probably 2 have already spelled out their roles on day one so I'm not trying to win the old fashioned way anymore. Gonna take some brute force to win this if Temp isn't lying.
entertain, for a second, the thought that the roleblocker might actually be in a somewhat comfortable position regarding being lynched. If scum feels like the RBer is in no danger, what is their incentive to kill lich?
(this is all assuming lich is telling the truth ofc) It doesn't matter if the MRB does or does not feel comfortable right now. It only matters that he is currently alive. The moment the MRB gets lynched I say they NK Lich. Until then they need to keep him around to continue distracting the town with his scummy plays. They're probably hoping we just lynch him anyway as this town is having trouble forming a wagon and Lich is somewhat of an easy lynch target.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 am
by WhemeStar
Ugh I was hoping day would be extended more cause replacements this fuckin sucks. I’ll read up soon
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 am
by eth0s
There are much better players for them to NK if Lich is really RB.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:30 am
by eth0s
@Whemestar
What do you think of the behavior of the guy you replaced, Phone0Ix?
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:30 am
by WhemeStar
In post 1095, eth0s wrote:There are much better players for them to NK if Lich is really RB.