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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:13 pm
by midwaybear
I wanted to see if puppy was going to be opportunistic lol
it's bad play to not let you respond. Work with me here.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:27 pm
by Kerset
I gave you 5 days with presumption of innocence, it was enough. You just make up lies as you go.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:28 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1076, Kerset wrote:I gave you 5 days with presumption of innocence, it was enough. You just make up lies as you go.
ok then we lost if you are town.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:29 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1073, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1070, Kerset wrote:The best part of this is that scum even doesn't know my role, so alignment doesn't change the way you look at setup spec.
I don't understand this at all.
still waiting for an answer to this.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:34 pm
by Kerset
midwaybear wrote:
In post 1073, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1070, Kerset wrote:The best part of this is that scum even doesn't know my role, so alignment doesn't change the way you look at setup spec.
I don't understand this at all.
still waiting for an answer to this.
Both scum and town don't know entire setup. If you ask scum to speculate what kind of power is in person X ownership they are going to give you similar answer as town, because they both simply don't know such things.
In post 1077, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1076, Kerset wrote:I gave you 5 days with presumption of innocence, it was enough. You just make up lies as you go.
ok then we lost if you are town.
Your threats only discourage me from unvoting.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:37 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1079, Kerset wrote:Both scum and town don't know entire setup. If you ask scum to speculate what kind of power is in person X ownership they are going to give you similar answer as town, because they both simply don't know such things.
i mean you either are truly a backup bulletproof town or just some mafia role that I don't really care about. I don't see how that invalidates my setup spec?
If you are town, you NEED to unvote. I get how that might dissuade you, but it is facts.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:39 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
I'm not scum

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:39 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
Kerset why'd you have to vote, now midway crosses and it's up to me to win/lose :|

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:40 pm
by midwaybear
VOTE: Kerset
hooray!

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:40 pm
by midwaybear
I actually played a good game because I was scumreading BM D1!
time to convince puppy

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:41 pm
by Kerset
In post 1082, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Kerset why'd you have to vote, now midway crosses and it's up to me to win/lose
so your nick could become a true statement

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:45 pm
by midwaybear
puppy, your gut is correct here, but feel free to take as much time as you need!

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:48 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 1085, Kerset wrote:
In post 1082, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Kerset why'd you have to vote, now midway crosses and it's up to me to win/lose
so your nick could become a true statement
Lmao thanks

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:58 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
Leaning kerset for "gut" but will leave chance to argue. Let me try to explain "guy"

Midway is type of player who does not type every thought. Few short posts that don't elaborate. Have known few other players like this. So day 1 when midway pushes Ydrasse and claims credit later, he is taking his 1-2 posts more seriously than most players would. Doesn't read like scum fake bravado but genuine town seeking credit from this style of player I've seen before

Kerset is more normal, player who relies on argument and content. (But, uh, normal is not bad and not-normal is not bad.) I think in 3p lylo scum kerset would try to convince me, because if midway votes me she wins, and if she convinced me she wins. I don't think she could argue with midway like that because he's the kind of player who thinks for himself rather than being moved by long argument

That's my "gut". Could be 180 degrees wrong

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:03 pm
by midwaybear
I'm pretty sure kerset's plan would just to let me vote you because I had verbally expressed desire to do so before.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:09 pm
by midwaybear
oh i guess I sorta see what you mean by that. Well I don't think she's been trying to convince anyone this LYLO, mostly lurking.
Just sheep my setup spec and we win. I know you are hesitant here, so I will try to control my impatience lol

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:09 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
Yeah it's also suggestive that kerset didn't vote until you said you would vote her

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:10 pm
by Kerset
In post 1070, Kerset wrote:midway just did a total 180° over 12h from one intent to another to get the easiest mislynch and puppy is just totally blind to it
its hard to give better argument then than, as i said only PT quote would beat it


If you want my meta around F3: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=2675

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:12 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
I had the thought that scum kerset voting me and making a midway/kerset cross would be game-losing when midway would have voted me otherwise

But since midway decided to vote kerset instead, no longer game-losing. Maybe the better option because that means she controls the cross I stead of midway. Though maybe still not what scum would do when there's even a chance midway would vote me still?

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:13 pm
by midwaybear
If you look at my setup spec quote, I am actually hesitant about voting you for your claim at first, but then I realize it's probably scummy. You have never refuted it.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:14 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 2679, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 5.06

Kerset
(1): Shadoweh
Shadoweh
(1): Jingle
Jingle
(1): Kerset

Not Voting
(2): Chemist1422, hitogoroshi

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2020-02-17 10:30:00)

Image
This is the most powerful votecount I've ever seen

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:15 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1093, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Though maybe still not what scum would do when there's even a chance midway would vote me still?
probably was feeling the pressure and got overdefensive
Also, look at my reaction to Fidget's fake scum outing. Does that really look fake?

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:18 pm
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 1096, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1093, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Though maybe still not what scum would do when there's even a chance midway would vote me still?
probably was feeling the pressure and got overdefensive
Also, look at my reaction to Fidget's fake scum outing. Does that really look fake?
It could be. If I was scum and someone fake outed Id immediately fake celebrate with everything I've got

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:23 pm
by midwaybear
In post 981, midwaybear wrote:AYYYYYYY
GG
In post 984, midwaybear wrote:I wasn't even sure because you were really townie. You were swaying me towards puppy, but he did a good job holding one.
The only thing that I found scummy about blair was that she revoked intent to hammer on Ydrasse, and I felt her explanation was a bit WIFOMy. I think scum played well and we got sorta lucky heehee.
What do you want me to do right now? Towncase myself or try to scumcase Kerset/BM?

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:26 pm
by midwaybear
oops didn't mean to quote those, but I feel like it would be a little hard to fake the second thing.