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That said. Things are happening, and I for one am interested how the conversations turn out.
UNVOTE:

Pedit: his self-vote timing resulted in a tie, yours tipped it 6-4, point stands

My unvote results in 5-4 as a matter of interest

In post 1073, Servant Berserker wrote:Like, even if you ARE town when you win this vote, I'm not just gonna do what you say.

This seems a bit hypocritical from what you said earlier.

In post 1077, Servant Archer wrote:

In post 1073, Servant Berserker wrote:Like, even if you ARE town when you win this vote, I'm not just gonna do what you say.

This seems a bit hypocritical from what you said earlier.

Which was what, again?

In post 1067, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 1056, Servant Caster wrote:Berserker is successfully wigging me out a little.

I'm wigging you out? For not wanting to have someone I think is scum win?

lol?

I mean that you are successfully making me a little paranoid about Assassin. I just isoed avenger as a result and I am finally comfortable townleaning him.

In post 1073, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 1068, Servant Assassin wrote:

In post 1063, Servant Berserker wrote:If you knew who I was, you'd learn quickly it's not really trust and more "if you're doing the things I want you to do, you exist within my circle of trust because you're killing who I want to kill".

I like to think I learned this trick from Fate. It doesn't matter who you work with, town or scum, if scum want to help you do pro town things more power to them.

And if they don't they can go into the "fuck you die" pile.

p sure i know which is why i'm worried you're going to be a pain to work with if you're town (likely)

I'm going to have my own opinions either way.

I'm sure you're the kind of player who would love it if people just did what you said and you got to run the game front to back, but i'm not interested in it?

Like, even if you ARE town when you win this vote, I'm not just gonna do what you say.

That I imagine is your form of "work with" yeah?

I mean, you ARE trying to win the "I will die in 2 days" vote here.

maybe in years gone by i'd want to be king shit of fuck mountain but i don't have the will for that anymore and i'm trying to be a better listener (and usually failing)

In post 1063, Servant Berserker wrote:It doesn't matter who you work with, town or scum, if scum want to help you do pro town things more power to them.

And if they don't they can go into the "fuck you die" pile.

It seems like you expect people to work with you, and if they don't, you scumread them.
If Assassin wins the vote and is confirmed to be town, it seems a little hypocritical that you are going to refuse to work with him.
I'm not sure if that's the right word, but still.

Oooo I wouldn't mind voting assassin.

Assassin (6): , Alter Ego, , , , Archer
Avenger (4): , , Beast, Saber

Darker blue = stronger townreads.

In post 1081, Servant Archer wrote:

In post 1063, Servant Berserker wrote:It doesn't matter who you work with, town or scum, if scum want to help you do pro town things more power to them.

And if they don't they can go into the "fuck you die" pile.

It seems like you expect people to work with you, and if they don't, you scumread them.
If Assassin wins the vote and is confirmed to be town, it seems a little hypocritical that you are going to refuse to work with him.
I'm not sure if that's the right word, but still.

1) I don't scumread people who don't work with me, but I do select people to die out of that group primarily at the beginning of the game. Notably, Moon Cancer is currently voting against my wishes and I'm 100 percent certain they are town.

While someone I thought was town, Caster, is doing mostly what I wanted (voting themselves) and I've soured.

My playstyle is more nuanced than you're describing.

2) It's not that I won't work with a confirmed town assassin, it's just that I get this expectation from their trolling at me that they're gonna just want to lay down their own law and I'm not interested in being dictated to by an innocent child.

Let me know when you're done with Archer, Alter.

I wouldn't mind saving myself the trouble of spamming F5 for 2 hours and just voting through Assassin right now.

@Berserker
Fair enough.

In post 1083, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Assassin (6):

Moon Cancer

, Alter Ego,

Lancer

,

Rider

,

Assassin

, Archer
Avenger (4):

Avenger

,

Berserker

, Beast, Saber

Darker blue = stronger townreads.

Fucks sakes we might genuinely be on the same page minus Assassin.

All those dark blue names are town for me.

But you're NOT town for me.

... so i'm either totally directed in a bad way, or you're town?

or option 3 you're distancing but day 1 no connections let's not go down that path...

In post 1082, Servant Foreigner wrote:Oooo I wouldn't mind voting assassin.

hey while you're here do you mind answering this?

In post 1014, Servant Assassin wrote:

In post 969, Servant Foreigner wrote:AE who are you planning on voting, I don't think Assassin is happening anymore, this site isn't known for last minute wagon shifts that are actually good for town.
I could be persuaded to vote for Avenger if you want but I'd like to see you commit to one of those wagons.

curious as to why this is a strong preference for you?

In post 1085, Servant Rider wrote:Let me know when you're done with Archer, Alter.

I don't like how that sounds

In post 1085, Servant Rider wrote:Let me know when you're done with Archer, Alter.

Archer isn't changing my mind. They're either jumping in gung ho like this to scare people off the wagon, or, like I said, going for the towncred if (as I believe with all my heart) Assassin survives this trial by fire and doesn't slink off to the scum PT rubbing their hands in unholy glee. Or, yeah it could be town trollery but it's coming at a very bad time.

Yo, AE.

Why are you supporting Assassin again?

In post 1088, Servant Berserker wrote:Fucks sakes we might genuinely be on the same page minus Assassin.

All those dark blue names are town for me.

But you're NOT town for me.

... so i'm either totally directed in a bad way, or you're town?

She's town. Very, very town.

Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 1085, Servant Rider wrote:Let me know when you're done with Archer, Alter.

Archer isn't changing my mind. They're either jumping in gung ho like this to scare people off the wagon, or, like I said, going for the towncred if (as I believe with all my heart) Assassin survives this trial by fire and doesn't slink off to the scum PT rubbing their hands in unholy glee. Or, yeah it could be town trollery but it's coming at a very bad time.

Okay, cool.
VOTE: Assassin

In post 1091, Servant Alter Ego wrote:They're either jumping in gung ho like this to scare people off the wagon, or, like I said, going for the towncred

I don't get either of these.

In post 1014, Servant Assassin wrote:

In post 969, Servant Foreigner wrote:AE who are you planning on voting, I don't think Assassin is happening anymore, this site isn't known for last minute wagon shifts that are actually good for town.
I could be persuaded to vote for Avenger if you want but I'd like to see you commit to one of those wagons.

curious as to why this is a strong preference for you? i am willing to revive my own wagon if people are -really- having doubts although i realize being afk probably hurt it but thats life

the caster wagon is like, shit, he has decent tone, the last minute swing

probably

isn't scum-indicative, but why they are a popular choice is...confusing? not sure what they bring to the table

Caster doesn't strike me as someone who wants to win this vote, maybe they are scum trying to setup some easy pockets and if they happen to win the vote that's just a bonus.
But I don't particularly want to think about that right now. I could make myself paranoid of Avenger if I really wanted to but I don't particularly feel like going down that path right now.

In general Caster is more neutral then Avenger is as far as the crowd is concerned so seeing them flip town is something I'd prefer to see. Honestly I don't see any of {Caster, Assassin, Avenger} being any more likely to flip scum relative to each other at least right now without any flips. That's basically why I voted Assassin because I think there is a strong dislike of the slot among non assassin voters. It kinda gives us both a better flip in terms of analysis and utilizes the "mod check" a bit better.

In post 1095, Servant Foreigner wrote:Caster doesn't strike me as someone who wants to win this vote, maybe they are scum trying to setup some easy pockets and if they happen to win the vote that's just a bonus.

i mean, they are selfvoting

also that post by me aged well

In post 1096, Servant Assassin wrote:

In post 1095, Servant Foreigner wrote:Caster doesn't strike me as someone who wants to win this vote, maybe they are scum trying to setup some easy pockets and if they happen to win the vote that's just a bonus.

i mean, they are selfvoting

Am I allowed to reword that?
I don't think it's about winning or losing this vote, I think it's about having a plan for the future after you win the vote.

And I think to some degree Caster both doesn't have one of those and also isn't showing they aren't thinking about the future.
So yes I think they are trying to win the vote, but they aren't playing like winning the vote is an end goal for their slot. Basically they are taking the vote because they can.

Idk I could be wrong, I am kind of deep on this tunnel to be reevaluating reliably with 2 hours left, whenever I do that I just end up moving off a good vote and onto a shit one.
And I am voting Assassin in a few posts anyway.

I'm basically lurking right now. I'll probably vote eventually.