Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:08 am
i feel tremendous remorse for wrongly burying catboi under a wall and would like to atone by starting an appreciation page for him.
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
In post 775, Prism wrote:That readslist from Hectic confuses me. lements slot still at bottom, extremely puzzling Lavender read but will check the referenced game later. Ordering of people below MT begs many questions. Maybe I'll like this more when I actually wake up.
In post 862, Prism wrote:Order of the townreads in your list was also bizarre to me beyond MT at the top.
In post 103, Elements wrote:pooky are you always so lovely?
In post 7972, Prism wrote:/in Cats 2, whoops sorry Chara's Folly
You admit here that you didn't even have a reason to link that scumgame for us. Were you sending it our way before we stumbled upon it ourselves, showing us you have nothing to hide?In post 889, Prism wrote:So I didn't really have anything particular I wanted from linking it. Chara hasn't actually outed a townread on me but seems to trust me a lot this game. Hectic seems to guttownread me. Because of that, I thought linking a scumgame where I took a similar approach tonally/in making reads would make for interesting reading.
The time doesn't actually matter that much. I haven't evolved as a scum player since 2016, and while I've improved in some ways as town other aspects have taken massive hits. I've steadily gotten worse over the years. Kind of sad but that's what happens when you put progressively less time into a hobby. I guess I did at least find playing scum tolerable back then, which is a big difference.
i am glad someone recognized this, since i was definitely expecting people to be pointing fingers at me at start of this day (though it's not too late yet i guess), but i'm also kinda... paranoid? what is your read on me right now? i remember being pretty low in the list you gave on day one.In post 1074, Hectic wrote:I read through the transcripts for yesterday and I was quite surprised to see you calling beeboy town based on VCA, and even a little alarmed by it. I haven't felt such excitement since reading a very interesting snail fact from the night before! However, I then realised it would serve you little purpose if you were a monster, as there were no other viable counterwagons and you didn't try and push anyone and instead kept your vote on Lavender - someone who others as well as Master Glyde himself had just towncased, not likely to lead to saving beeboy at all.
i wasn't really hoping for it, since i knew that such mass shift was very very unlikely. not impossible maybe. i don't actually know what i was hoping for. the townie in me is saying that i was hoping to at least get some info by people's reactions to it. the truth is probably closer to "i refused to vote for beeboy because i felt it was a silent consensus execute that 99/100 times flips town, and wanted my vote anywhere else so i could act high and mighty the next day for not being on the misfight wagon."In post 1074, Hectic wrote:I have conveniently highlighted what I want you to focus on in a pleasant shade of pink! At this point, were you still hoping for a mass shift onto Lavender? Why did you disagree with Master Glyde's reasons for her being an innocent child?In post 1020, Tanner wrote:hello friends, insomnia is kicking my ass
i was gonna vote beeboy (because deadline and i see my vote is still on lavender oops)but i wanna see if it's possible something happens there now
also vaguely agree with 1017
Otherwise, I do believe that a bus is a very likely possibility. It's either that or the monsters were simply too afraid to push anything else or hop onto Tayl0r, as it would look too opportunistic and quite bad for them down the line!
Chara also does once two players are spared
i don't necessarily disagree with you, but how did you get from here to there?In post 1037, Morning Tweet wrote:Here's the breakdown after my reread:
Prism
Pooky
Tayl0r
Catboi
-------- SPARE LINE --------
Hectic
Redtea
Chara
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Tanner
Puppy
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Lavender
Elements-beeboy
This wouldn't really make sense though, your argument would be that 4 fights is obviously objectively correct, also scum bussed for credit so they could play better in an inferior position. Why would scum bus at all?In post 1089, Tanner wrote:also i had a thought that elements was bussed and that scum was gonna try to get themselves spared off of towncred, and for puppy to enter the game going for spares... yay paranoia.
i'm pretty sure 4 fights are optimal in every single scenario now. day 2 is definitely a fight day to either win or get Not Chara flipped. since the "if mafia is spared, they win if both of them survive Day 5" clause in 1-3 is now pointless, sparing on day 3/4 is just setting off those executes for later... while losing 2 public cops. i can crunch the numbers later if anyone is that interested in it, but i'm pretty sure fighting is the way.
yes, i realized it wouldn't make sense because "wait a minute, fighting is clearly optimal, nobody is gonna enter day 2 asking for spares!"In post 1092, CantHateAPuppy wrote:This wouldn't really make sense though, your argument would be that 4 fights is obviously objectively correct, also scum bussed for credit so they could play better in an inferior position. Why would scum bus at all?In post 1089, Tanner wrote:also i had a thought that elements was bussed and that scum was gonna try to get themselves spared off of towncred, and for puppy to enter the game going for spares... yay paranoia.
i'm pretty sure 4 fights are optimal in every single scenario now. day 2 is definitely a fight day to either win or get Not Chara flipped. since the "if mafia is spared, they win if both of them survive Day 5" clause in 1-3 is now pointless, sparing on day 3/4 is just setting off those executes for later... while losing 2 public cops. i can crunch the numbers later if anyone is that interested in it, but i'm pretty sure fighting is the way.
I think it's more realistic that scum didn't bus, or at least didn't push the wagon until it was too late. In that case, sparing is a decent move because we'd save two townreads and still get a copcheck for it. 2 + 1 > > 2
so you'd spare me, and who else?In post 1090, CantHateAPuppy wrote:I want to see who pushed elements yesterday, I know me and chara, but I was a little afk at EOD and I want to see who really "decided" it would be elements. That's gotta be town too
The process was probably something like..In post 1091, Tanner wrote:i don't necessarily disagree with you, but how did you get from here to there?In post 1037, Morning Tweet wrote:Here's the breakdown after my reread:
Prism
Pooky
Tayl0r
Catboi
-------- SPARE LINE --------
Hectic
Redtea
Chara
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Tanner
Puppy
-------------------------------
Lavender
Elements-beeboy
Besides you not sure, I'd need to look at the wagon again and see who stands out as really pushing it. I don't think scum bussed here. It just wouldn't make sense. When I see who did that and was also in my townreads pile, I'll make a case.In post 1094, Chara wrote:so you'd spare me, and who else?In post 1090, CantHateAPuppy wrote:I want to see who pushed elements yesterday, I know me and chara, but I was a little afk at EOD and I want to see who really "decided" it would be elements. That's gotta be town too