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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:35 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Interesting question.
The obvious answer would be S_S. Since as you said, his partner could be anyone. You even tried to tie him to me as an possible partner.
What's also interesting about S_S is that he openly stated that he as scum would not hammer either of Toog/Tracer because he just doesn't do that as town, and thus would apply that knowledge to his scumgame as well.
Other choices are Wall, Toog, RCE. Wall could theoretically just be hard bussing you for extra distancing. Toog somehow seems unlikely since you both were wagons, but not out of the question. RCE meh i'm just not feeling that.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:46 am
by Something_Smart
Toog is actually probably the most likely partner to Tracer. It would explain why they were both kinda okay with being the two main wagons and halfheartedly pushing each other but now that other options are looking possible Pooky is ramping up the rhetoric. Otherwise it seems like scum-Pooky would have probably just kept pushing Toog.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:50 am
by Something_Smart
It would require some D1 bussing, but both of the conftowns jumped on Tracer so I think it would be pretty reasonable for Toog, not in the best spot themself, to jump on for towncred, and at that point there's little to lose for Tracer to bus them back. I do still townread Tracer on the balance but I don't think this scenario is implausible.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:03 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Yeah that's entirely possible.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:04 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Are you still not gonna vote today.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:15 am
by Ircher
I am withholding rn so we maximize discussion time.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:17 am
by Ircher
Maybe, but I really don't think it is Wallflower. And if it, I'd be okay losing to scum Wallflower here. They've played a good game.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:03 am
by Something_Smart
I might, but I'm even more undecided now than I was before, and I definitely don't want to rush the end of the day now.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:30 am
by RCEnigma
VOTE: Tracer
I will yeet SS.... probably regardless of your flip if I'm honest. Scouts honor.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:33 am
by Something_Smart
Why do you even scumread me?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:42 am
by RCEnigma
Like if I had to explain it to another person I'd say....vibe probably. You feel a lot more aimless than I think town!you is. In the sense that I have no idea what you are looking for or out of who and you're giving off the impression you generally don't either.
I can't throw out buzzword B's like agenda or anything because I don't think you're doing anything in particular besides letting town go at itself.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:12 am
by Something_Smart
I don't know, I think I'm about as aimless as I usually am? I'm trying to help figure out who the best execution is today and where to go from there.
I also don't think I play more aimlessly as scum than as town. I have scum games where I try to get away with doing very little, but I have town games like that too (and I wouldn't even say this is one of them).
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:23 am
by Tracer Bullet
In post 1076, Something_Smart wrote:Toog is actually probably the most likely partner to Tracer. It would explain why they were both kinda okay with being the two main wagons and halfheartedly pushing each other but now that other options are looking possible Pooky is ramping up the rhetoric. Otherwise it seems like scum-Pooky would have probably just kept pushing Toog.
rofl
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:27 am
by Something_Smart
Do you object to the logic? Who do you think your most likely partner is?
I agree with you that you flipping on Norwee makes little sense if you're scum. Toog being your partner is where it makes the most sense.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:29 am
by Tracer Bullet
you actually think
that I, someone who rarely if ever busses on D1 ran this play with my mafia partner Gamma E:
Gamma is at E-2 here:
Duckie unvoted at some point to put Gamma at 2 votes(Me/Wall Flower)
and then:
Like I don't know if you've read games where I distance with my partner D1 but I usually coach them through the progression to make it look natural or talk out how to play it.
And I've played scum with Gamma b4, he's usually psyched to see me and trying to pump me up and saying how he's ready to be carried.
for example here is a game where Gamma/Me are S/S:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=87890
We actually do scum theatre and fight 1v1 on Day 2.
You can read the scum PT for our banter.
Gamma respects my scum game and we have fun being scum together.
The idea that I would push him mildly and he would freak out and jump out the window in response is
ROFL what a fucking stupid read holy shit
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:33 am
by Tracer Bullet
for example here's how gamma reacts to me in the scum PT:
so you really think Gamma is going to lol rage rep out after I do some mild theatre with him ? like lol no
dude loves winning and my scum winrate is in the high 80s [when i dont even fucking try]
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:34 am
by Ircher
I'm still waiting on Smart to take a hard stance of some kind.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:35 am
by Something_Smart
I don't want to speculate about why Gamma replaced out. If the replacement was unrelated to the events in the game, or even just based on something other than the one thing that just happened, then it is plausible.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:35 am
by NorwegianboyEE
This is the game where we make S_S come out of his shell and then we all have a big group hug in the shower.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:35 am
by Ircher
I don't get why you keep saying it was a rage replace.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:36 am
by Something_Smart
How hard is hard? Does my townread on Pooky not count?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:36 am
by Ircher
I'm more interested in your scum reads.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:37 am
by Something_Smart
Well, right now my scumreads are {Norwee, WF, RCE}, because those aren't my townreads. That help?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:39 am
by Ircher
And which of the three would you vote rn if you had to choose one?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:40 am
by Something_Smart
Norwee, probably.