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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:55 pm
by Freedom
In post 1072, Crescent wrote:Though my reasons for distrusting Alex are completely independent of Corwin, and he did vote Johnny over him when frankly Corwin had done even less than Johnny.
STD could be partially right on his solve.
It's highly possible that he misread you and that JF/Corwin/Alex is the solve.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:57 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
vote count 1.11

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-12 12:00:00).



yeet
Corwinoid[5]:
Scamper, Save the Dragons, Datisi, Gamma Emerald, Freedom
Marcistar[2]:
Ausuka, Alexcellent
Alexcellent[2]:
Roden, JohnnyFarrar
Datisi[1]:
Marcistar
Scamper[1]:
Corwinoid


Not Voting[2]:
Crescent, Bellaphant


mod note
Bellaphant is VLA until Monday
Alexcellent is VLA Tuesday - Thursday



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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:05 pm
by Crescent
JF has been tunneling on Alex all day, and was calling him scummy before he had any pressure at all, though he notably did not vote him until he already had a train. Alex shading Corwin then voting JF and JF feeling any need to actually make post #1058 don't feel like they're pieces that fit.

I think Corwin+JF or Corwin+Alex is feasible, but I do not believe it's all 3. Something feels missing.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:28 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
You've got me on a Rollercoaster of emotion, Crez

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:05 pm
by Crescent
Oh also I read Marci's ISO specifically for her posts around Corwin since she's the next most under fire:

Tthe likelihood Marci is town goes up fairly significantly with a Corwin scum flip. While the reasoning is... Childishly simple, Corwin might be the one person she's actually made something of a "functional" argument on for calling scum. I don't know if she has a history of bussing, though she doesn't strike me as the type to bus towards unpressured teammates.

Also the exchange between them when Corwin whines about fluff posting and she backs away does not feel like scum/scum.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:49 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1069, Crescent wrote:Oh and Alex probably is just town. I don't trust his votes, and I reaction tested him on a few things before I felt Corwin outright claimed scum, but player meta.

It's more than just immediately drawing attention to the guy who replaced a 0 poster, which is a dangerous game for scum to be playing. I also think if they're scum together, Alex has Corwin screaming in his ear to stop talking about him, and I think as a result he does not bring up Corwin so many times.
srsly? And yet you tried to convince me Alex was scum? Sure I asked for it but this is a stark turnaround

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:59 pm
by Freedom
In post 1079, Crescent wrote:I don't know if she has a history of bussing, though she doesn't strike me as the type to bus towards unpressured teammates.
Correct me if I'm wrong, she seems to be more interested in distancing than bussing to my knowledge.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:24 pm
by Crescent
In post 1080, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1069, Crescent wrote:Oh and Alex probably is just town. I don't trust his votes, and I reaction tested him on a few things before I felt Corwin outright claimed scum, but player meta.

It's more than just immediately drawing attention to the guy who replaced a 0 poster, which is a dangerous game for scum to be playing. I also think if they're scum together, Alex has Corwin screaming in his ear to stop talking about him, and I think as a result he does not bring up Corwin so many times.
srsly? And yet you tried to convince me Alex was scum? Sure I asked for it but this is a stark turnaround
I changed my mind like 15 posts later because I was under the false impression that Alex was under no pressure when he kept needling at Corwin when he was actually at 3 votes.

Not only that, the first time he did it was after voting Bella but before giving a reason for the Bella vote.

My impression of how that all went down was completely off and you can see the progression of me figuring that out as I bantered with Freedon and Roden.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:25 pm
by Crescent
In post 1081, Freedom wrote:
In post 1079, Crescent wrote:I don't know if she has a history of bussing, though she doesn't strike me as the type to bus towards unpressured teammates.
Correct me if I'm wrong, she seems to be more interested in distancing than bussing to my knowledge.
I have zero idea of what her scum play is actually like, only the feeling that she wouldn't do that if she's scum with Corwin.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:03 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1082, Crescent wrote:
In post 1080, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1069, Crescent wrote:Oh and Alex probably is just town. I don't trust his votes, and I reaction tested him on a few things before I felt Corwin outright claimed scum, but player meta.

It's more than just immediately drawing attention to the guy who replaced a 0 poster, which is a dangerous game for scum to be playing. I also think if they're scum together, Alex has Corwin screaming in his ear to stop talking about him, and I think as a result he does not bring up Corwin so many times.
srsly? And yet you tried to convince me Alex was scum? Sure I asked for it but this is a stark turnaround
I changed my mind like 15 posts later because I was under the false impression that Alex was under no pressure when he kept needling at Corwin when he was actually at 3 votes.

Not only that, the first time he did it was after voting Bella but before giving a reason for the Bella vote.

My impression of how that all went down was completely off and you can see the progression of me figuring that out as I bantered with Freedon and Roden.
But that false impression didn’t start from the ending of that other game right? Why did you forget to mention it until just now?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:07 pm
by Datisi
crescent is town

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:14 pm
by Crescent
Forget to mention what? Corwin only claimed scum a few hours ago, afterwhich I went with my mismemory of what had actually happened to say Alex was probably town based on the way he kept poking at him. After Roden and Freedom's responses, I re-investigated and realized I was operating off of faulty memory. The reasons I was defending Alex off of Corwin being scum were wrong, and I adjusted accordingly.

There's a very obvious progression between me thinking it looked good on Alex to me realizing it kinda doesn't that you seem to be ignoring and I'm not understanding why you are focusing on exactly one post and ignoring the actual conversation that took place.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:21 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Did you not process the fact Corwin scumclaimed to you until just recently?

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:24 pm
by Ausuka
I mean Corwin's posts were obviously terrible

I was hoping he would post some more while I was asleep but no

Don't want to vote there because lolhammers but yeah

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:26 pm
by Ausuka
Corwin can you explain why you feel angry at scamper for what would be bad town play while also saying you're convinced they're mafia

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:29 pm
by Roden
Corwin mentioned in the hood that they're separating themself from the game for a bit, partially because of Crescent but also because IRL stuff happened apparently.

They're also accusing Crescent of playing the complete opposite as she did when she was town in the Mini that got brought up. So uh, basically a "no u" argument.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:35 pm
by Freedom
In post 1090, Roden wrote:Corwin mentioned in the hood that they're separating themself from the game for a bit, partially because of Crescent but also because IRL stuff happened apparently.

They're also accusing Crescent of playing the complete opposite as she did when she was town in the Mini that got brought up. So uh, basically a "no u" argument.
Oh that.
Corwin did say that Crescent was reasonably attempting at progress in this game opposed to her towngame in 2272 or something.
I might've misinterpreted their post.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:37 pm
by Crescent
In post 1087, Gamma Emerald wrote:Did you not process the fact Corwin scumclaimed to you until just recently?
I said he scumpinged me on entry by trying to pocket me immediately.

Post #1015 was serious alarm bells because it completely flew in the face of his play in 2273. 2273 Corwin never accepts Ausuka's arguments on Marci (he goes straight after him at some point because he thinks out of game arguments are strictly anti-town) and personally attacks me in that post instead of being "curious" about it.

But to go even further, the eruption at Scamper was
ridiculously
different from anything I ever saw in 2273, and my feeling is he stopped posting at the time to avoid doing more damage. He was constantly angry and constantly wanted to kill anyone who ever dared suspect him, but this was so far beyond any reaction he had in that game it's staggering. Like, this is a guy who wanted me dead all game because I voted him day 1, and not once did he ever act this way.

I made these same points like 3 or 4 hours ago? The other game happened to end at a good time for me to talk about it. I was skirting around why I actually found #1015 so bad.

I don't really understand the stance you're taking here. It feels like you're not actually reading the recent posts in the game and are trying to cherry pick an argument that doesn't exist.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:39 pm
by Crescent
In post 1091, Freedom wrote:
In post 1090, Roden wrote:Corwin mentioned in the hood that they're separating themself from the game for a bit, partially because of Crescent but also because IRL stuff happened apparently.

They're also accusing Crescent of playing the complete opposite as she did when she was town in the Mini that got brought up. So uh, basically a "no u" argument.
Oh that.
Corwin did say that Crescent was reasonably attempting at progress in this game opposed to her towngame in 2272 or something.
I might've misinterpreted their post.
Corwin was town who wasn't playing to win. He was town who was playing to vote off specifically who he wanted to vote off, alignment be damned.

But he never got this explosive.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:40 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Okay that makes sense now
I feel like, an incessant urge to pick at things that feel poorly-timed, no matter what they are

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:41 pm
by Ausuka
Also I think gamma is probably town now

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:43 pm
by Datisi
same

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:44 pm
by Roden
I've been feeling that Gamma is town for a hot minute now too

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:51 pm
by Crescent
Let's give one example. Clidd came up with a good out of game argument for why someone was scum. That person was scum. That person shot Clidd night 1.

I was the only person in the entire game to pay attention to and validate that argument, as well as add to it. Guess what happened when I started talking in detail about what Clidd brought up? Corwin attacked me because he refused to entertain any arguments that used other games to read players.

Ausuka's now referenced 3 other games when speaking of Marci. I wanted to see if he would react to it at all, and not only did he not, he compounded the out of game talk by asking me an out of game question.

This is all easily verifiable by... Alex, of all people. Assuming he remembers.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:52 pm
by Datisi
In post 1098, Crescent wrote:Corwin attacked me because he refused to entertain any arguments that used other games to read players.
can you link an example of this?