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In post 10744, Rad wrote:

In post 10743, Best Bird wrote:

In post 10739, Rad wrote:Right, and I didn't because...?

i mean - you did until DP offered an out tbf

Not true.

I got beaten down by people telling me I was stupid and when DP jumped in and also seemed to agree with my thought process, I decided maybe I wasn't stupid.

In post 10303, Rad wrote:Let's do this

VOTE: Bella

Strongman targets Bell and town!Bella targets Bell is just wtf GG

E-2 maybe? Been a while since I checked. Caution if you vote.

In post 10318, Rad wrote:Yeah DP I like that.

UNVOTE:

Zzz sleep soon for me

Beaten down in 15 posts...

In post 10735, Lukewarm wrote:Oh, just a general announcement of reads update. My read of Rad has tanked from upber town read -> null.

I am aware that lots of people still town read him, so don't really feel like touching that any time soon.

Disagree. Both Bella and Corwin had him as solid town. Besides the sheer degree of nuance in his Bella defence read really townie to me. Just like BBT. Scum very rarely go to bat like that - especially in such a nuanced way - for a mech guiltied buddy. I stand by my solve of scum either bussing or staying relatively silent on Bella.

In post 10746, Lukewarm wrote:Anyways.

That is not a discussion for toDay.

To kill Enchant!

....fine....

In post 10751, Dancing Puppets wrote:Besides the sheer degree of nuance in his Bella defence read really townie to me

Okay, well if you+Rad make it to Elo, and I don't maybe think back to this conversation.

Like I said, I am not trying to kill him today. I am more confident in Enchant anyways.

In post 10749, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10748, Enchant wrote:I disagree

Who do you think that we should kill?

Mafia

In post 10740, Enchant wrote:You undrestand that i literally can do nothing, because bussing gives no creed at that point, but there's still ppl who wanted to let Bella live?

Literally what.

So you’re really going to argue that Bella’s buddies are seriously that dumb. Okay.

In post 10755, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 10740, Enchant wrote:You undrestand that i literally can do nothing, because bussing gives no creed at that point, but there's still ppl who wanted to let Bella live?

Literally what.

So you’re really going to argue that Bella’s buddies are seriously that dumb. Okay.

No, i argue that if i am maf, i do nothing and hope someone really follow that.

I did not find his progression on Bella believable at all really.

By contrast, even though you were both arguing to save Bella, I did find yours believable

do i need to be more obv

about what?

In post 10753, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10751, Dancing Puppets wrote:Besides the sheer degree of nuance in his Bella defence read really townie to me

Okay, well if you+Rad make it to Elo, and I don't maybe think back to this conversation.

Like I said, I am not trying to kill him today. I am more confident in Enchant anyways.

I also think there’s posts he made during the gladiate that looked really townie but both Bella and Corwin had him as solid town. It’s extremely rare for scum to locktown their buddies.

In post 10754, Enchant wrote:

In post 10749, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 10748, Enchant wrote:I disagree

Who do you think that we should kill?

Mafia

Thank you Captain Obvious. This is so extremely helpful.

In post 10758, Off The Hook wrote:do i need to be more obv

Nah I caught your claim but I don't think anyone currently dead has any role reveal that would matter? However, I was staying silent on the matter because I think other people who are smarter about roles and whatnot would have a better grasp on if any dead role reveals could be useful.

Not problem! Call me any time.

In post 10756, Enchant wrote:

In post 10755, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 10740, Enchant wrote:You undrestand that i literally can do nothing, because bussing gives no creed at that point, but there's still ppl who wanted to let Bella live?

Literally what.

So you’re really going to argue that Bella’s buddies are seriously that dumb. Okay.

No, i argue that if i am maf, i do nothing and hope someone really follow that.

So you would lim who today then?

I just think that scum would play it smart and not draw a huge target on themselves in light of a mech guilty.

In post 10757, Lukewarm wrote:I did not find his progression on Bella believable at all really.

By contrast, even though you were both arguing to save Bella, I did find yours believable

Why is my progression on Bella more believable than RAD’s?

In post 10764, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 10756, Enchant wrote:

In post 10755, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 10740, Enchant wrote:You undrestand that i literally can do nothing, because bussing gives no creed at that point, but there's still ppl who wanted to let Bella live?

Literally what.

So you’re really going to argue that Bella’s buddies are seriously that dumb. Okay.

No, i argue that if i am maf, i do nothing and hope someone really follow that.

So you would lim who today then?

I just think that scum would play it smart and not draw a huge target on themselves in light of a mech guilty.

Why not? People will think "mafia not so stupid".

That's why i suspect ppl who tried to save Bella, because she was SO SCUMMY, i don't understand why people even bother.

In post 10766, Enchant wrote:

In post 10764, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 10756, Enchant wrote:

In post 10755, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 10740, Enchant wrote:You undrestand that i literally can do nothing, because bussing gives no creed at that point, but there's still ppl who wanted to let Bella live?

Literally what.

So you’re really going to argue that Bella’s buddies are seriously that dumb. Okay.

No, i argue that if i am maf, i do nothing and hope someone really follow that.

So you would lim who today then?

I just think that scum would play it smart and not draw a huge target on themselves in light of a mech guilty.

Why not? People will think "mafia not so stupid".

That's why i suspect ppl who tried to save Bella, because she was SO SCUMMY, i don't understand why people even bother.

I can agree post Drap guilty on her but prior to that I thought she was really townie. It’s also pretty obvious in retrospect that Bella stopped trying near the end. I just really don’t think so.

Well I have gotten wrongly sr, pushed and miselimed for had defending scum. I think scum wants to not look horrible in the extremely likely event of her flip.

Besides, what I said about both Corwin and Bella likely spewing him town.

In post 10701, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 10683, Mislim Bait wrote:

In post 10644, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what's up friends

I am a novice two shot cop

T-Bone & Lukewarm are town

I checked with Dragons I am confirmed sane

Kinda curious how you checked whether you're sane or not.
like did you just asked and got a yes reply

i asked dragons cuz I didnt want to believe T-bone was town rofl

If this is true then this pretty much confirms that hidden sanities or variations are not in play.
I guess rules regarding mod comms are pretty lax eh

In post 1469, Corwinoid wrote:I haven't read Rad's scum game (congrats Rad), but that is 100% his town play and exactly why I'm town reading him.

Do you think this is something scum says about a buddy?

You missing main point of my message

In post 3098, Bellaphant wrote:Cool, rads still town.

In post 10111, Bellaphant wrote:@rad, you were my strongest read and and of day one was a shit show for town. I thought you might be a 'voice of reason' that scum would like to get rid of.

This reads like a pocket.

In post 10770, Enchant wrote:You missing main point of my message

I understand your point but in my experience it’s greater > rand town who does this. Town!Sakura hard defended scum!Wisdom in Baton Pass - I think it was.

In the game where I was the game losing miselim, scum hardbussed their entire team and the d1 scum elim was they’re most powerful pr.

I like Luke's points about Enchant.

VOTE: Enchant

From my read overnight, I thought that Klick slot (Bella seemed to focus more on pocketing than I would expect if it was theatre between the two), Best Bird, and BBT were town based on Bella's interactions with them. The Day 2 interactions between BBT and Bella look really not partnered to me (they're also harder to find in the ISO since they often didn't have quotes -- a small thing, but it indicates to me that it wasn't performative).

I disagree on her death spewing Johnny as town -- we don't have to go there anytime soon, but I didn't see anything that looked unpartnered. In a game this large you can absolutely afford to push a partner, especially if you aren't one of the leading voices and aren't really convincing anyone to join you. All it will do is look good when someone checks your ISO later. She also had him as a "top scumread" but usually found reasons to vote other places.

Oh, and another thing from Klick:

In post 3986, Klick wrote:I personally think it's very notable that Bella's having trouble reading MathBlade, because Bella has clocked onto Math!town very quickly and accurately in the past, and that sort of nullish read on someone often turns up scum in my experience. And I've already given my thoughts on why Corwin's slot was scummy. I can't give much more than that without delving into things that really don't influence my own thoughts either way.

They misread it as Bella town unable to find scum Math, but I don't think they call this out as partners with those two.

None of what I'm seeing from flipped scum looks like Rad was with them