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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:33 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 10865, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 10862, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10859, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Are we just accepting that town have all of - can talk to dead, can role check dead and 1-Shot coroner as well?

This all makes sense to everyone yeah?
crying about game imbalance comes from scum like 80% of the time
Wanna do something about it?
are you asking me to buy you kleenex dude?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:33 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10872, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10802, Enchant wrote:idk about you i would waste coroner on MathBlade.
why do you say "waste"?

~GE
I really have trouble telling whether Enchant was serious or trolling with this.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:34 am
by Off The Hook
In post 10862, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10859, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Are we just accepting that town have all of - can talk to dead, can role check dead and 1-Shot coroner as well?

This all makes sense to everyone yeah?
crying about game imbalance comes from scum like 80% of the time
inclined to agree esp w math scumflip

~GE

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:34 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 10874, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10816, Best Bird wrote:
In post 10814, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 10793, Best Bird wrote:
In post 10644, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what's up friends

I am a novice two shot cop

T-Bone & Lukewarm are town

I checked with Dragons I am confirmed sane
ceph just roasted you for this - ngl. i laughed.
Wait. You keep your ghost friends?

I kinda assumed they were good for 1 day only
Nope - I said I had two shots. I get to talk to two people forever and ever and ever in purgatory.
why was cephrir one of your choices?

~GE
Cephrir is awesome

I'd hang with that dude any day of the week

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:36 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10875, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10865, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 10862, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10859, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Are we just accepting that town have all of - can talk to dead, can role check dead and 1-Shot coroner as well?

This all makes sense to everyone yeah?
crying about game imbalance comes from scum like 80% of the time
Wanna do something about it?
are you asking me to buy you kleenex dude?
It’s not a terrible point. Do you think we have two town coroners and a town medium? I mean it’s possible but Mala got macho doc result on Bella and I don’t recall ever seeing a scum macho anything in any game ever.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:38 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10877, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10862, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10859, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Are we just accepting that town have all of - can talk to dead, can role check dead and 1-Shot coroner as well?

This all makes sense to everyone yeah?
crying about game imbalance comes from scum like 80% of the time
inclined to agree esp w math scumflip

~GE
I don’t see what this has anything to do with game imbalance? I think it’s not unreasonable to be sceptical about this, which is different.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:40 am
by Off The Hook
My problem with the choice to ghost-neighbor ceph is that it's clear to me from the gladiation proceedings he was operating to feed his own ego vs. to the town's benefit
if his goal was town cohesion, DP should never have been a gladiate option, as far as I'm aware they were not a leading suspect D1.
My choice of ghost-neighbor would be dictated by whether I thought it was a rational voice I would like to have assisting me long-term, and Cephrir kinda proved himself not to be of that caliber.

~GE

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:41 am
by Dancing Puppets
And the reason scepticism is justified is because both OtH and Mala’s cornoners specifically involve role checking, so I don’t see how that’s strange at all.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:41 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 10880, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10877, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10862, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10859, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Are we just accepting that town have all of - can talk to dead, can role check dead and 1-Shot coroner as well?

This all makes sense to everyone yeah?
crying about game imbalance comes from scum like 80% of the time
inclined to agree esp w math scumflip

~GE
I don’t see what this has anything to do with game imbalance? I think it’s not unreasonable to be sceptical about this, which is different.

most of the time when i hear skepticism about role balance in any game it comes from a scumbag getting all salty about game balance

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:42 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
bruh like how is it even an issue that the game has multiple coroners on town side

you know most games

we dont need coroners

cuz roles get flipped and shit

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
the balance issue doesnt even make sense to me

for me i think town should have multiple coroners cuz how the fuck we supposed to know what flipped if we dont have multiple coroners?

scum shoot the 1 town coroner n1 and we just playing blind rest of the game?

lol

i think scum r way more likely to feel salty about this shit than town

for me its just normal large theme balance

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:45 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10881, Off The Hook wrote:My problem with the choice to ghost-neighbor ceph is that it's clear to me from the gladiation proceedings he was operating to feed his own ego vs. to the town's benefit
if his goal was town cohesion, DP should never have been a gladiate option, as far as I'm aware they were not a leading suspect D1.
My choice of ghost-neighbor would be dictated by whether I thought it was a rational voice I would like to have assisting me long-term, and Cephrir kinda proved himself not to be of that caliber.

~GE
I agree we never should have been an option but Ceph did flip town. so not sure where you’re going with this? And he was the only n1 option. I probably would have waited to use it on either Frogs or Dunn but meh?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:47 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10883, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10880, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10877, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10862, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10859, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Are we just accepting that town have all of - can talk to dead, can role check dead and 1-Shot coroner as well?

This all makes sense to everyone yeah?
crying about game imbalance comes from scum like 80% of the time
inclined to agree esp w math scumflip

~GE
I don’t see what this has anything to do with game imbalance? I think it’s not unreasonable to be sceptical about this, which is different.

most of the time when i hear skepticism about role balance in any game it comes from a scumbag getting all salty about game balance
Both slots claim to be able to rolecop dead slots. It’s not like one checks for role and the other checks who visited them.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:49 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 10833, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10671, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10662, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10659, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Probably not, I meant more in terms of like why
you
and not Luke or Pooky or whatever
Could be. I think scum would doc!hint but my role means it’s not cut and dry. So if there is the possibility I’d like town to have more pieces of the full picture.
I guess i don't see why scum would target you over butterchurn or something

But i agree with the general idea that scum probably didn't target drapion last night to avoid collision with a town protective
So how do you account for the no kill then? This is why I think OfH should check Bella because it looked like she might have been informed about doc.
It's a 26p game, there's likely more than 1 protect
In post 10836, Malakittens wrote:
In post 10832, Best Bird wrote:oh - what was ceph's exact role?
Hated 1-shot gladiator
Bella is a macho doc
Scum probably don't have any goons since Bella did the kill. They were also not especially worried about a vig.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:51 am
by Best Bird
In post 10874, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10816, Best Bird wrote:
In post 10814, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 10793, Best Bird wrote:
In post 10644, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what's up friends

I am a novice two shot cop

T-Bone & Lukewarm are town

I checked with Dragons I am confirmed sane
ceph just roasted you for this - ngl. i laughed.
Wait. You keep your ghost friends?

I kinda assumed they were good for 1 day only
Nope - I said I had two shots. I get to talk to two people forever and ever and ever in purgatory.
why was cephrir one of your choices?

~GE
Only option N1, seemed to have good activity so I thought he would still be active in the dead PT and have a good understanding of the game (since I was v/la for 5 days), and just generally like my fellow skittles (except for T-bone of course).

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:53 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10884, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh like how is it even an issue that the game has multiple coroners on town side

you know most games

we dont need coroners

cuz roles get flipped and shit
Right, forgot about that, probably all of OtH, BB and Gamma are town who talk to dead.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:54 am
by Best Bird
In post 10881, Off The Hook wrote:My problem with the choice to ghost-neighbor ceph is that it's clear to me from the gladiation proceedings he was operating to feed his own ego vs. to the town's benefit
He didn't feel confident in his reads and felt the day length was antitown so he polled some town reads on who to gladiate to progress us forward. I don't agree with this comment.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:54 am
by Lukewarm
@Marci

If its not too late, I think you should actually sit on your shot

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:55 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10888, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10833, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10671, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10662, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10659, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Probably not, I meant more in terms of like why
you
and not Luke or Pooky or whatever
Could be. I think scum would doc!hint but my role means it’s not cut and dry. So if there is the possibility I’d like town to have more pieces of the full picture.
I guess i don't see why scum would target you over butterchurn or something

But i agree with the general idea that scum probably didn't target drapion last night to avoid collision with a town protective
So how do you account for the no kill then? This is why I think OfH should check Bella because it looked like she might have been informed about doc.
It's a 26p game, there's likely more than 1 protect
In post 10836, Malakittens wrote:
In post 10832, Best Bird wrote:oh - what was ceph's exact role?
Hated 1-shot gladiator
Bella is a macho doc
Scum probably don't have any goons since Bella did the kill. They were also not especially worried about a vig.
If so, maybe Frogs was the nk > Frogs?

Okay Oth: rolecheck Dunn then, probably best option.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:56 am
by Enchant
What if Vig is scum.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:57 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10888, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10833, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10671, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 10662, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 10659, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Probably not, I meant more in terms of like why
you
and not Luke or Pooky or whatever
Could be. I think scum would doc!hint but my role means it’s not cut and dry. So if there is the possibility I’d like town to have more pieces of the full picture.
I guess i don't see why scum would target you over butterchurn or something

But i agree with the general idea that scum probably didn't target drapion last night to avoid collision with a town protective
So how do you account for the no kill then? This is why I think OfH should check Bella because it looked like she might have been informed about doc.
It's a 26p game, there's likely more than 1 protect
In post 10836, Malakittens wrote:
In post 10832, Best Bird wrote:oh - what was ceph's exact role?
Hated 1-shot gladiator
Bella is a macho doc
Scum probably don't have any goons since Bella did the kill. They were also not especially worried about a vig.
Tin foil theory: Maybe scum have a vig as well? I’ve been in two games with a scum vig.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:59 am
by Lukewarm
In post 10891, Best Bird wrote:
In post 10881, Off The Hook wrote:My problem with the choice to ghost-neighbor ceph is that it's clear to me from the gladiation proceedings he was operating to feed his own ego vs. to the town's benefit
He didn't feel confident in his reads and felt the day length was antitown so he polled some town reads on who to gladiate to progress us forward. I don't agree with this comment.
i agree. Ceph's play was obviously townie, and also obviously coming from a place of trying to help the town.

Even with it missing, I don't really regret suggesting he do it.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this game ever since we got out of day 1. But it really felt like we were never getting out of day 1.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:59 am
by Lukewarm
In post 10892, Lukewarm wrote:
@Marci

If its not too late, I think you should actually sit on your shot

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:00 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10894, Enchant wrote:What if Vig is scum.
:o Can’t believe I just mindmelded with you on literally anything. Wow. Is this the sign of the apocalypse or what?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:01 am
by Off The Hook
In post 10886, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10881, Off The Hook wrote:My problem with the choice to ghost-neighbor ceph is that it's clear to me from the gladiation proceedings he was operating to feed his own ego vs. to the town's benefit
if his goal was town cohesion, DP should never have been a gladiate option, as far as I'm aware they were not a leading suspect D1.
My choice of ghost-neighbor would be dictated by whether I thought it was a rational voice I would like to have assisting me long-term, and Cephrir kinda proved himself not to be of that caliber.

~GE
I agree we never should have been an option but Ceph did flip town. so not sure where you’re going with this? And he was the only n1 option. I probably would have waited to use it on either Frogs or Dunn but meh?
yeah out of those first deaths Dunn would have been my pick. I may just be rambling, idk what BB's metric for ghost-neighboring is, just was saying by my own metric Ceph felt like a bad choice.

~GE