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And your stupid argument with Sens is crap. Now wasn't that fun?

You know, with all the scummy hammering stuff, I'd kind of forgot that Rib softclaimed power too.

And seriously, his attack on steven shows an inquisitiveness and a level of independent thought that is quite townish.

So, you can't stick with a read.

Is ribwich town(ish), scum(ish) or completely neutral to you?

holy shit sick for a few days and you have 12 pages to read, will have something up by tonight guys.

I wouldn't minda a Wraith or Fonz lynch.

I think the Trev bandwagon is incredibly stupid.

Why Fonz given the tracer result?

Jason. You didn't ask Maryita anything. That's a flat out lie.

Scummy behavior is scummy. I agree that we have better chances of lynching scum that were OFF the Mist wagon (unless Sens was lying but I'm not to concerned with that right now. which is why my vote is on Wraith.

Now I want to ask you a question. Why were you only concerned with Fonz? Are you saying that you agree that Fonz is scummy what?

Nero Cain wrote:Scummy behavior is scummy. I agree that we have better chances of lynching scum that were OFF the Mist wagon (unless Sens was lying but I'm not to concerned with that right now. which is why my vote is on Wraith.

Now I want to ask you a question. Why were you only concerned with Fonz? Are you saying that you agree that Fonz is scummy what?

Who is this directed at?

Would everyone please make the rest of our lives easier and indicate who your question is for? MS has been acting funky lately and posts have been posted in the wrong order and such. It would make it a lot easier for us to follow if you'd indicate who you were talking to. Thanks bunches.

Sorry Mari.

My 1108 was directed @ Boberz

boberz wrote:Why Fonz given the tracer result?

Tracer result doesnt force us to lynch a certain way, you still lynch the best scum bet on scumhunting. This just gives us some ideas of who could be scum.

This whole thing between Sens and Fonzie is just really distracting though.

I cant believe how ugly that last votecount is. Hell a wagon of Hikari would be better then the crap we are pulling off right now just because it would give us some damn info.

- Give us a damn good case next post or move your vote next post. What we dont need here is a million little wagon.

- Vote. Now. Seriously.

This game is just really all over the place. What we need is a wagon. If anyone trusts me enough on this, follow me here:

No worries. Hiraki just ninjaed you. Thanks for clarifying.

Now, back to Hiraki, the super-secret-only-comes-in-to-post-in-response-to-things-directed-at-him ninja... We know you thought Guiderian was scum. We know you "know" Diddin is opportunistic. What do you think about the plan to lynch people the Mist wagon? Who would you pick to lynch?

P-edit: I already gave my case. I don't agree with a Kage lynch, so no, I won't follow you there. And WTF are you bitching about "little wagons" for? The only wagon with more than 2 votes is Hiraki, who I was voting, until the plan to lynch people the Mist wagon came up. Your vote really didn't help matters any, now did it? Nope. Put Kage at 2. Why not hop on Jason, or Consigliere, or Wraith, or even Hiraki if you want a solid wagon going.

Mariyta wrote:The only wagon with more than 2 votes is Hiraki, who I was voting, until the plan to lynch people

off

the Mist wagon came up.

Stupid plan if you think someone on the wagon is scum. That doesnt, or at least shouldnt, change the read of that person.

Your vote really didn't help matters any, now did it? Nope.

Trying to revitalize a wagon that had six players, all still alive, on it yesterday is changing plenty. Especially since that wagon yesterday was one of the most townie groups ever to town.

Put Kage at 2. Why not hop on Jason, or Consigliere, or Wraith, or even Hiraki if you want a solid wagon going.

Well... Jason is town, Cons (who I was voting) I wasnt getting any support for, Wraith is null leaning town, Hikari is probably town. Three bad wagons and one that I dont think the lynch support I need will show on.

Jason and Darla.

I already gave a case as well on Diddin.

RE: Lowell -
RE: #937
On Jason's claim - I don't think we have enough information for sure to make a judgment on the validity of the claim. The Logic of "If Homer=Cop then Hibbert=/=Doc" is not sufficiently robust for me to push for a lynch, conversely the claim warrants unvoting.

On Town/Scum reads - I can't help it if I'm a sucker for active posting with sound logic that progresses the game. More importantly, there are other players who have been aggressive who I don't have strong town reads for. Same goes for the other half of the field of lurkers in this game. Besides, most of the reads on that post were consistent with those made earlier in the game. People haven't changed.

RE: #1017
Sorry I smell like fish to you, can't argue with your senses.

RE:"openly called out" - First, I thought I am part of the team, and am actively helpful. Everyone's being called out as potential scum, everyone IS potential scum. Technically since they're are 2 also on wagon, everyone's still suspect. I don't really understand the point of this part.

RE: Trag/tvell - Again, reads consistent with yesterday. Also note, I have discouraged lynches for "low hanging fruit" that I have town reads on (DBE, Hiraki, Mist).

RE: "suggesting lurker-lynches" - I guess you misunderstood, but I was discouraging lurker lynches. If scum players have forgotten about this game/are being replaced, then they can't order kills, exercise PRs, push mislynches, etc. If it comes down to it, the slot also can't provide a claim. That's why, of the suspects, I voted the active one.

RE: "I thought of something!" - If I do think of something that might be helpful is it bad to share it? Did you actually think it was a bad idea?


In other news

I agree with Llama that we need to start focusing better. I'm not even sure if we have 12 solidly active people. I do think that the group of 9 is the best place to start. I'm sticking with Tragedy until we hear from Cons and SA.

Nero Cain wrote:Sorry Mari.

My 1108 was directed @ Boberz

In which case, I was only interested in fonz in that post because wraith was not on that wagon and I will not support a lynch of somebody on the traced wagon. I dont trust most town's odds scumhunting against the odds given by the tracer. I am accepting the claim on face value for now.

I still have not had time to reread other people yet. Because it took so long reading the walls on the last few pages when catching up. DBE is still scum though.

SensFan wrote:First of all, because she originally didn't claim Neighbourizer, she claimed that she "could also talk in a QT with Other family members of my family at night".
Secondly, her new claim was that the person she chose would be guaranteed to be Town, which would give her:
(a) Two investigations per Night
(b) Someone she knew was Town to tell her results to privately

Don't you think that might have been a

tad

overpowered?

QFT

boberz wrote:

vote jason

Shame he is not in the 9, I will be reading the nine players to get a better understanding of them. BUt for now this will do.

Horrible vote. No way in a hell a claimed Doc on D2 lives to endgame...So this is pointless to waste a lynch on. Things will work themselves out or become insanely apparent.

Not to mention the 1 NK last night. Hrmmmm

SensFan wrote:Have you considered that your chosen way of dealing with claims means that you will literally never lynch Scum on Day 1?

Yep. Mafia 118 was singing in my ears when I was reading the claim...ing going down.

The Fonz wrote:Don't be ridiculous, that's not the case at all. For starters, I'm in general very much a claim-sceptic type. Like here, when I lynched a claimed cop on day four when she claimed one roleblock and two results on corpses.

No point to this....

The Fonz wrote:You know, with all the scummy hammering stuff, I'd kind of forgot that Rib softclaimed power too.

Yeah which I asked about ages ago, but he never got back to me on.

LlamaFluff wrote:

@Mariyata, Nacho, Hakari, Ben, Lowell

- Give us a damn good case next post or move your vote next post. What we dont need here is a million little wagon.

Plan to. Just keep getting pushed back and back in this game.

I kinda rushed my reading of the last 5 pages or so. Sotty has now post twice, correct? We should organize questions for him to make sure he answers them the next time he comes around. There was one in regards to him being post restricted and not killed that I wanted him to answer. Not sure if others have lingering questions.

(Gonna go relook at those off the Mist wagon.)

Well that was easy.

Off the wagon alone. Nacho and Tragedy are the two I'd most like to see die.

Oh if that seemed like there wasn't reasoning...Go do a quick iso of Nacho.

I could live with a nacho wagon actually. Apart from him almost always being scum (like farside), he isnt contributing much, which leans him to scum from what I have seen out of him.

Wait. Tragedy was off the Mist wagon?

I support this wagon.

*sigh* Now I actually have to read all this. And apparently there are some claims and a replacement or 2 in there, so I can't just skim.

At the moment (before reading the last 5-8 pages), I'm cool with DH (because, last I saw, he said some odd things I'd like to explore) or Nacho (mainly because he's lurking like I am, but that's practically scum meta for him) wagon. Maybe Darla again. Not Hiraki (I somehow think him town from what I've seen today), Fonz (are you guys for real with this one?), or jason (this is not because I think he's likely town but because I really don't feel like lynching a claimed doc after we just lost a cop).

As per Fluffy's orders, I'll plant a vote (likely to change when I get back) before reading.

VOTE: Nachomamma8[/unvote]

KageLord wrote:*sigh* Now I actually have to read all this. And apparently there are some claims and a replacement or 2 in there, so I can't just skim.

At the moment (before reading the last 5-8 pages), I'm cool with DH (because, last I saw, he said some odd things I'd like to explore) or Nacho (mainly because he's lurking like I am, but that's practically scum meta for him) wagon. Maybe Darla again. Not Hiraki (I somehow think him town from what I've seen today), Fonz (are you guys for real with this one?), or jason (this is not because I think he's likely town but because I really don't feel like lynching a claimed doc after we just lost a cop).

As per Fluffy's orders, I'll plant a vote (likely to change when I get back) before reading.

VOTE: Nachomamma8[/unvote]

tl;dr version is that I'm claiming 1-shot Sensor, with exactly 2 anti-town roles on the Mist wagon.