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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 1:43 pm

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Captain Leela wrote:I was
lying
? Hyperbole much? I don't have the thread memorized; logic would dictate that I either didn't notice your post or forgot that you had written it.


Nice try, but you just finished reviewing the thread and you were quoting posts as early as 875. I find it hard to believe that you just "forgot" my post when you would have read it like 15 minutes before you posted, as it was quite recent.

Yes, Porochaz did something scummy, but do you actually believe it was a
scumslip
? And CD...
scumslipped
? This is pretty much the stupidest reason to be voting for someone. I'd like to know what you think a scumslip is, because almost every time I've seen someone get strung up because of a "scumslip" it's a townie. Misused words, pronoun changes, inconsistency in thought or action, grammatical issues, etc all come from town just as much as they come from scum. It's a humanslip, it's not a scumslip. In fact, they're more likely to come from town than they are to come from scum because town has no reason to really pay attention to what they write; therefore, they're automatically going to make mistakes in logic or whatever. Scum have the incentive to be careful fo what they say, so they're more likely to fix these things. So while it's fine to point these things out or think it's suspicious, on its own it doesn't prove that someone is scum.


What a nice, long, useless paragraph. Here's what I think is a scumslip: Poro moved his vote away from MoS, onto a wagon supported by MoS, while simultaneously claiming that he still has problems with MoS. That doesn't make sense from a town perspective.

Is this how you always scum hunt? You know who predominantly "hunt" for scum this way? Scum do...when they're looking for mislynches. Scum know who town is so it's harder for them to hunt in a way that's less mechanical so they tend to focus on these little verifiables. "Oh look a contradiction" "Oh look a scumslip" It's a nice way to look like you're hunting for scum when what you're really doing is hunting for a mislynch.


Even if you don't agree with my case against CD, I was
voting him before I made that argument.
So your position that I'm just using it to "hunt for a mislynch" is bullshit.

It's funny how many posts you have conveniently "forgotten" even though you just read through that portion of the thread.

A preemptive defense! How awesome! Can you explain to me why you felt the need to defend yourself before Porochaz had a chance to answer the question I posed to
him
?


LOL, nice try.

You put two and two together and came up with that? You should probably go back to kindergarten if you think that looks anything like four. Considering that his last statement was "Yeah, I should've listened to me, and not these other idiots. GreyICE and UN have lost all talking priviliges," and that his last vote before moving to Haylen was on you, I think it's very highly likely that he would be voting you today. You look like you're making stuff up to try to make yourself look good.


Again, nice try, but Glork specifically said that two of his teammates were contradicting him on his scumread for me.

--------------------------------

In short:
You sure have overlooked or "forgotten" a lot of posts in order to make your points, even though you just replaced in and apparently just read through the thread/current events. Combine that with the fact that Om of the Nom claimed that he was replacing out because the game was moving too fast -- yet he was just spotted joining another game -- indicates that his replace-out was tactical in nature.

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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 3:21 pm

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DeltaWave wrote:
Captain Leela wrote:I was
lying
? Hyperbole much? I don't have the thread memorized; logic would dictate that I either didn't notice your post or forgot that you had written it.


Nice try, but you just finished reviewing the thread and you were quoting posts as early as 875. I find it hard to believe that you just "forgot" my post when you would have read it like 15 minutes before you posted, as it was quite recent.


Okay so, let me get this straight. You accuse me of lying about not remembering or not paying attention to a post, and then you,
in the very next sentence
fill it full of lulzy assumptions and a lie itself? I asked you that question at 2:06 am. The only posts that I referenced before then was just before 7pm when I gave my first set of reads and asked UN a question. The ones I referenced were things I took notes on while reading the thread, just for your information. I'd like for you to tell me how you think you "know" that I had just finished reviewing this particular thread within 15 minutes before I responded to that post? (hint: the correct answer is you don't and you're making shit up.) The next post I make is at 2:32 am in which I ask a question about post 1015. Check that out! A whole 30 minutes AFTER I ask you the question. Now would logic dictate that I went through that portion of the thread 15 minutes before or after I asked you that question?

I'm really trying to figure out why you're making crazy accusations over this when all you had to do was tell me that you had been thinking about it since post 1008. You know what my response would have been? "Oops my bad, you did. Sorry about that." There is absolutely no town motivation for you to throw wild accusations of me lying over it.

deltawave wrote:
What a nice, long, useless paragraph. Here's what I think is a scumslip: Poro moved his vote away from MoS, onto a wagon supported by MoS, while simultaneously claiming that he still has problems with MoS. That doesn't make sense from a town perspective.


Why doesn't it? How does it make sense from a scum perspective?

deltawave wrote:
Is this how you always scum hunt? You know who predominantly "hunt" for scum this way? Scum do...when they're looking for mislynches. Scum know who town is so it's harder for them to hunt in a way that's less mechanical so they tend to focus on these little verifiables. "Oh look a contradiction" "Oh look a scumslip" It's a nice way to look like you're hunting for scum when what you're really doing is hunting for a mislynch.


Even if you don't agree with my case against CD, I was
voting him before I made that argument.
So your position that I'm just using it to "hunt for a mislynch" is bullshit.

It's funny how many posts you have conveniently "forgotten" even though you just read through that portion of the thread.


It doesn't matter; you're still using the scumslip thing as your case against Poro, and you referenced it in your reasoning. What I remember, or think I do I haven't had a chance to ISO you yet, is that you did this crap yesterday too.

Look dude this is not the only game I'm in. And, more importantly, I replaced in
yesterday
. Repeat that with me...
yesterday
. So, not only did I read this game...yesterday...but I was trying to help out my team, which I replaced into
yesterday
. Regardless, I don't commit threads to memory. Deal with it.

deltawave wrote:
A preemptive defense! How awesome! Can you explain to me why you felt the need to defend yourself before Porochaz had a chance to answer the question I posed to
him
?


LOL, nice try.


Nice try is not an answer to the question.


delta wrote:
You put two and two together and came up with that? You should probably go back to kindergarten if you think that looks anything like four. Considering that his last statement was "Yeah, I should've listened to me, and not these other idiots. GreyICE and UN have lost all talking priviliges," and that his last vote before moving to Haylen was on you, I think it's very highly likely that he would be voting you today. You look like you're making stuff up to try to make yourself look good.


Again, nice try, but Glork specifically said that two of his teammates were contradicting him on his scumread for me.


So, doesn't mean that he was going to change his mind. I would say that the statement that he should have listened to himself are pretty good indicators that he wasn't.

deltascum wrote:
In short:
You sure have overlooked or "forgotten" a lot of posts in order to make your points, even though you just replaced in and apparently just read through the thread/current events. Combine that with the fact that Om of the Nom claimed that he was replacing out because the game was moving too fast -- yet he was just spotted joining another game -- indicates that his replace-out was tactical in nature.

HI SCUM


Okay so now you are deliberately mischaracterizing me to make this point. Do you know who do that? Scum. Town has no motivation to do that. I overlooked or forgot one post. I asked you a question; I didn't even make a point. If forgetting that I read a post is a scum tell, I would have been lynched in every single game I've played. It happens. Regarding the other one, the point was about the scumslip. You stated that Poro scumslipped harder than CD did. My response was to that statement. It had no bearing on whatever case you had made earlier, so whether or not I remembered that particular post is irrelevant.

I have no idea why Om of the Nom replaced out and signed up for another game. Like I said, he gave the same reason in the qt. But, if you want to lynch me for it, go ahead. :shrug: It will be the best reason for a mislynch ever.

If I'm scum, why aren't you voting for me? Do you think that Poro is scummier than me or have I not scumslipped hard enough to deserve a vote. Oh wait I'm a replacement, which apparently is, in and of itself, a scumslip. You know what I think? I think that you don't know if you should be voting me yet. Not enough people have weighed in on whether or not I'm town or scum, and you're not sure what you should be doing.

See, I'll show you how it's done.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 3:40 pm

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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 5:39 pm

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Captain Leela wrote:Okay so, let me get this straight. You accuse me of lying about not remembering or not paying attention to a post, and then you,
in the very next sentence
fill it full of lulzy assumptions and a lie itself? I asked you that question at 2:06 am. The only posts that I referenced before then was just before 7pm when I gave my first set of reads and asked UN a question. The ones I referenced were things I took notes on while reading the thread, just for your information. I'd like for you to tell me how you think you "know" that I had just finished reviewing this particular thread within 15 minutes before I responded to that post? (hint: the correct answer is you don't and you're making shit up.) The next post I make is at 2:32 am in which I ask a question about post 1015. Check that out! A whole 30 minutes AFTER I ask you the question. Now would logic dictate that I went through that portion of the thread 15 minutes before or after I asked you that question?

I'm really trying to figure out why you're making crazy accusations over this when all you had to do was tell me that you had been thinking about it since post 1008. You know what my response would have been? "Oops my bad, you did. Sorry about that." There is absolutely no town motivation for you to throw wild accusations of me lying over it.


So your defense is that you were throwing out accusations before you actually read the thread? LOL

Why doesn't it? How does it make sense from a scum perspective?


Hey, try to be consistent! In Post 1097, you said: "Yes, Porochaz did something scummy."

Now you question how it makes sense from a scum perspective!

SCUM DETECTED

It doesn't matter; you're still using the scumslip thing as your case against Poro, and you referenced it in your reasoning. What I remember, or think I do I haven't had a chance to ISO you yet, is that you did this crap yesterday too.

Look dude this is not the only game I'm in. And, more importantly, I replaced in
yesterday
. Repeat that with me...
yesterday
. So, not only did I read this game...yesterday...but I was trying to help out my team, which I replaced into
yesterday
. Regardless, I don't commit threads to memory. Deal with it.


So the way you're going to get out of your shit arguments is to claim that you haven't read enough.

I love it; you claimed in Post 1060 that you had a "strong scum read" on me, but when I call out your crap arguments, suddenly you become forgetful. Is this your first time as scum?

Nice try is not an answer to the question.


I'll address any argument you make against me.

So, doesn't mean that he was going to change his mind. I would say that the statement that he should have listened to himself are pretty good indicators that he wasn't.


Debate it with yourself all you want.

Okay so now you are deliberately mischaracterizing me to make this point. Do you know who do that? Scum. Town has no motivation to do that. I overlooked or forgot one post. I asked you a question; I didn't even make a point. If forgetting that I read a post is a scum tell, I would have been lynched in every single game I've played. It happens. Regarding the other one, the point was about the scumslip. You stated that Poro scumslipped harder than CD did. My response was to that statement. It had no bearing on whatever case you had made earlier, so whether or not I remembered that particular post is irrelevant.


Don't try to worm out of this. You claimed I was a "strong scum read", then you backtrack on your arguments by becoming forgetful. Not going to work.

I have no idea why Om of the Nom replaced out and signed up for another game. Like I said, he gave the same reason in the qt. But, if you want to lynch me for it, go ahead. :shrug: It will be the best reason for a mislynch ever.


It increases the probability that your slot is scum.

If I'm scum, why aren't you voting for me? Do you think that Poro is scummier than me or have I not scumslipped hard enough to deserve a vote. Oh wait I'm a replacement, which apparently is, in and of itself, a scumslip. You know what I think? I think that you don't know if you should be voting me yet. Not enough people have weighed in on whether or not I'm town or scum, and you're not sure what you should be doing.

See, I'll show you how it's done.
vote:Deltawave


Are you serious? I don't care about other people weighing in or not. I'm calling you scum pretty clearly. Are you blind?

I'm not voting you because I like my vote on Poro more for now. I'll get around to lynching you eventually.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 6:12 pm

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PeregrineV wrote:
Captain Leela wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:

Vote: Mastermind of Sin


Why are you voting MoS?


The distinct difference in MoS day1 and MoS day2.
Day1 play was all "sheeping Glork" and worthless posts.
Day2 is a bad attempt to lead the town in the direction he wants it to go, but it looks more like fishing for support for a lynch than actual cases on anyone.

That's for starters. I'll be back later when I get more than 10 minutes to myslef.


Hmm...I have a town read on MoS precisely for his contribution beginning day two (though I had a basically positive feeling about him day one as well). Falcon agrees with me that he starts looking even more town on day two, but he has reservations about calling him town.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 6:21 pm

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CooLDoG wrote:

This has got to be the most meaningless post in this game thus far. Is that sall you got? First you quote every post that he votes in and say nothing. Then you link to every popst he votes in and you still say nothing. What is your problem? Can't you at least try to play this game? Can you give us just one little insight? Just one?

Shut the fuck up, CoolDog. If you had read the game, you'd know I said time to ISO glork to see who he suspected and then Captain Leela says

Captain Leela wrote:
UberNinja wrote:time to ISO glork to see who he suspected


I've been going back and forth on what I think about you the whole thread, but when I came to this post I immediately had good thoughts about you. I don't think enough people look back at the thoughts of the night kill and see if it can help in determining who the killers are, so I looked forward to see what you discovered. It looked like you were being proactive in the hunt for killers, but you never did anything with it. Why not?

and then I posts Glork's posts with votes in them for later analysis, and then further later I post a list of the votes.

Sounds like a pretty fucking clear train of thought to me. Get off your fuckin high horse, asshole.

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And DeltaWave's town because I say he's fucking town. He thinks like me: namely, when he says "CoolDog is annoying as fuck but I can't lynch him in good conscience because I actually want to win this game and CoolDog is in all likelihood just stupid and not actual scum'

WHICH IS THE EXACT SAME THING I AM THINKING. AND I'M FUCKING TOWN.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 7:10 pm

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Porochaz(3): GreyICE, UberNinja, DeltaWave
Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz
DeltaWave(2): iamausername, Captain Leela
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin(1): PeregrineV

Not Voting: Slaxx, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is June 2nd.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 7:12 pm

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DeltaWave wrote:

So your defense is that you were throwing out accusations before you actually read the thread? LOL


Oh geeze...are you serious? Where are you even getting that? I read the thread yesterday afternoon, obviously or I wouldn't have had any reads. I went back through day two late last night. Obviously if I didn't read the thread, I wouldn't have forgotten reading a post.

OMG! You know what? HAHAHAHAHAHA...I just looked back at the question I asked you about. Do you know what the question was? "Although I think your case on CooLDog sucks, why did you suddenly change to Poro?" So, obviously I didn't forget reading that you had a case out there. So BOOM one post I forgot reading. Not lots. And I still maintain that my scumslip argument was separate, so yeah.

delta wrote:
Why doesn't it? How does it make sense from a scum perspective?


Hey, try to be consistent! In Post 1097, you said: "Yes, Porochaz did something scummy."

Now you question how it makes sense from a scum perspective!

SCUM DETECTED


There's nothing inconsistent about the statement or the question. People do scummy things all the time. People write scummy seeming posts, people fakeclaim, people lie about results they got in their fakeclaim, people test the waters, people commit inconsistent acts, people commit "tells." And just because someone does something scummy, it doesn't necessarily mean they're scum. Because town do all these things I just mentioned just as scum do.

I admitted he did something scummy. You said his actions don't make sense from a town perspective. I asked you why not and how does it make sense from a scum perspective. I, in no way shape or form, contradicted my agreement that he did something scummy.

I want to know why YOU think that action doesn't make sense from a town perspective and how it makes sense from a scum perspective. I'm trying to understand YOUR thought process and why YOU think that action makes him scum. I asked you that question in order to evaluate you...just like I asked Poro that question you felt compelled to answer in order to evaluate him.

delta wrote:
It doesn't matter; you're still using the scumslip thing as your case against Poro, and you referenced it in your reasoning. What I remember, or think I do I haven't had a chance to ISO you yet, is that you did this crap yesterday too.

Look dude this is not the only game I'm in. And, more importantly, I replaced in
yesterday
. Repeat that with me...
yesterday
. So, not only did I read this game...yesterday...but I was trying to help out my team, which I replaced into
yesterday
. Regardless, I don't commit threads to memory. Deal with it.


So the way you're going to get out of your shit arguments is to claim that you haven't read enough.

I love it; you claimed in Post 1060 that you had a "strong scum read" on me, but when I call out your crap arguments, suddenly you become forgetful. Is this your first time as scum?


Nope! I never claimed I didn't read enough. I said I read the thread. You're giving me a hard time for forgetting a post or two. I'm telling you I read the thread yesterday when I replaced in. I've been through the thread once, except for the last few pages of day two where I asked some questions. You're expecting me to carry this thread around in my head. Not gonna happen, especially with several games going on and me just reading through the thread once.

I never forgot that I had a strong scum read on you, and I never claimed I did. I forgot reading a post or two. I don't forget reads I have on people. I just don't have games memorized.

delta wrote:
Nice try is not an answer to the question.


I'll address any argument you make against me.


Why did you feel compelled to answer a question directed at another person and preemptively defend yourself in the process?


delta wrote:
Okay so now you are deliberately mischaracterizing me to make this point. Do you know who do that? Scum. Town has no motivation to do that. I overlooked or forgot one post. I asked you a question; I didn't even make a point. If forgetting that I read a post is a scum tell, I would have been lynched in every single game I've played. It happens. Regarding the other one, the point was about the scumslip. You stated that Poro scumslipped harder than CD did. My response was to that statement. It had no bearing on whatever case you had made earlier, so whether or not I remembered that particular post is irrelevant.


Don't try to worm out of this. You claimed I was a "strong scum read", then you backtrack on your arguments by becoming forgetful. Not going to work.


I would like for you to point out where I ever said that I forgot you were a strong scum read. Please do this. I never once forgot you were a scum read, and I never even indicated that. I forgot what a post or two of yours said. I said I still need to ISO you, which I do. Please explain to me how forgetting something you wrote equates to me backtracking and forgetting the scum read I have on you. You really need to work on making your deliberate mischaracterizations of people a little more subtle and believable. Is this your first time as scum?

^^^^^Oh and in searching for this. I want you to find the where I actually stated that I forgot a scum read. I don't want to see your deliberate mischaracterization of something I said. I want you to find me the words "I forgot I had a strong scum read on Deltawave."

delta wrote:
Are you serious? I don't care about other people weighing in or not. I'm calling you scum pretty clearly. Are you blind?

I'm not voting you because I like my vote on Poro more for now. I'll get around to lynching you eventually.


But you're not voting me, and the way you're attacking me you should be.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Thu May 24, 2012 9:07 pm

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Leela can you please stop voting town and make some use of yourself like voting Porochaz?

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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 1:16 am

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GreyICE wrote:Just a note: I'm going to be on vacation for the next 10 days. I'll be posting from my phone, but updates might be spotty. Also look for funny iPhone typos!

SCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! How dare you take a 10 day v/la and call me scum for taking a 3 day one.

UN wrote:
And DeltaWave's town because I say he's fucking town. He thinks like me: namely, when he says "CoolDog is annoying as fuck but I can't lynch him in good conscience because I actually want to win this game and CoolDog is in all likelihood just stupid and not actual scum'

WHICH IS THE EXACT SAME THING I AM THINKING. AND I'M FUCKING TOWN.

Why haven't we lynched this guy yet? "He is town because I say he is" and "HE is town because he thinks like me"
Would you say that he is town because you like him as a person?



and then I posts Glork's posts with votes in them for later analysis, and then further later I post a list of the votes.

Sounds like a pretty fucking clear train of thought to me. Get off your fuckin high horse, asshole.

No it doesn't make sense when we have an iso feature. Also, why post them twice? Wasn't, you know, every single one of his vote posts enough? Why did you HAVE to do that? What is the TRAIN of thought here? I don't understand why you would:
A need to do it at all, thanks to the iso function
B Post it twice
C Post about it all before you actually had any reads

Do you know your abcs? If you do, then answer the point and questions.
Hint: the answer to all of them is: "to look town"

Goddamn it I want to vote delta wave now. Tammy makes good arguments. and delta's responses indicate scum alignment.

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after a wank.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 1:41 am

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Captain Leela wrote:Oh geeze...are you serious? Where are you even getting that? I read the thread yesterday afternoon, obviously or I wouldn't have had any reads. I went back through day two late last night. Obviously if I didn't read the thread, I wouldn't have forgotten reading a post.

OMG! You know what? HAHAHAHAHAHA...I just looked back at the question I asked you about. Do you know what the question was? "Although I think your case on CooLDog sucks, why did you suddenly change to Poro?" So, obviously I didn't forget reading that you had a case out there. So BOOM one post I forgot reading. Not lots. And I still maintain that my scumslip argument was separate, so yeah.


Here's the problem. Even though you missed an
important
post, that completely defused a large part of your case, you haven't even considered thinking again about your read here. That's not what town does. That's what scum does when they're looking for a mislynch, and they throw a load of arguments out there, without caring if they're correct or not.

There's nothing inconsistent about the statement or the question. People do scummy things all the time. People write scummy seeming posts, people fakeclaim, people lie about results they got in their fakeclaim, people test the waters, people commit inconsistent acts, people commit "tells." And just because someone does something scummy, it doesn't necessarily mean they're scum. Because town do all these things I just mentioned just as scum do.

I admitted he did something scummy. You said his actions don't make sense from a town perspective. I asked you why not and how does it make sense from a scum perspective. I, in no way shape or form, contradicted my agreement that he did something scummy.


Fine. It makes sense from a scum perspective because it makes his initial vote sound like distancing.

Townies don't just turn around and agree with their highest scumread at the drop of a hat. It just doesn't happen.

Nope! I never claimed I didn't read enough. I said I read the thread. You're giving me a hard time for forgetting a post or two. I'm telling you I read the thread yesterday when I replaced in. I've been through the thread once, except for the last few pages of day two where I asked some questions. You're expecting me to carry this thread around in my head. Not gonna happen, especially with several games going on and me just reading through the thread once.

I never forgot that I had a strong scum read on you, and I never claimed I did. I forgot reading a post or two. I don't forget reads I have on people. I just don't have games memorized.


I'm not giving you a hard time for
just
forgetting a post. I'm giving you a hard time
because you forgot a key post that calls your case into doubt
, and you apparently don't seem to be concerned about that. You are showing no regard for whether or not your case is valid, you just want to brush this off. Explain why you aren't bothered.

Why did you feel compelled to answer a question directed at another person and preemptively defend yourself in the process?


It was an attack against me in a post that wasn't directed at me. I don't know why this is a big deal for you.

I would like for you to point out where I ever said that I forgot you were a strong scum read. Please do this. I never once forgot you were a scum read, and I never even indicated that. I forgot what a post or two of yours said. I said I still need to ISO you, which I do. Please explain to me how forgetting something you wrote equates to me backtracking and forgetting the scum read I have on you. You really need to work on making your deliberate mischaracterizations of people a little more subtle and believable. Is this your first time as scum?

^^^^^Oh and in searching for this. I want you to find the where I actually stated that I forgot a scum read. I don't want to see your deliberate mischaracterization of something I said. I want you to find me the words "I forgot I had a strong scum read on Deltawave."


I never claimed that you forgot about your read on me. I'm saying that it's funny that you would come out so strongly against me even though you have an incomplete understanding of recent events.

It kind of makes me wonder if someone in your scum QT had mentioned something about going after me today, so you put the cart before the horse and cast your vote before getting fully apprised on the situation.

But you're not voting me, and the way you're attacking me you should be.


I'm not known for switching my votes quickly or easily. I'm going to see how things play out between you and CD before I make any decisions.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 2:53 am

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V/LA as normal until Monday. Going to a Boxing match tonight, and a friends stag party tomorrow. Sunday will be in bed!
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 4:16 am

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CooLDoG wrote:
Would you say that he is town because you like him as a person?

If this is a serious question, go jump off a cliff and get hit by a train on the way down.

CooLDoG wrote:
and then I posts Glork's posts with votes in them for later analysis, and then further later I post a list of the votes.

Sounds like a pretty fucking clear train of thought to me. Get off your fuckin high horse, asshole.

No it doesn't make sense when we have an iso feature. Also, why post them twice? Wasn't, you know, every single one of his vote posts enough? Why did you HAVE to do that? What is the TRAIN of thought here? I don't understand why you would:
A need to do it at all, thanks to the iso function
B Post it twice
C Post about it all before you actually had any reads

Do you know your abcs? If you do, then answer the point and questions.
Hint: the answer to all of them is: "to look town"

Goddamn it I want to vote delta wave now. Tammy makes good arguments. and delta's responses indicate scum alignment.

@tammy/leea, still think UN is town?

Actually, I'm not going to bother replying to your posts any more. They make so little sense it's not worth my fucking time.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 4:19 am

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CooLDoG wrote:Goddamn it I want to vote delta wave now. Tammy makes good arguments. and delta's responses indicate scum alignment.

seriously what the fuck is this
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 4:20 am

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More Porochaz votes. This wagon needs to happen.

There also needs to be a PeregrineV wagon.
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 4:24 am

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CooLDoG you're an idiot.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 7:01 am

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GreyICE wrote:CooLDoG you're an idiot.

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@UN, I'm seriosuly asking the first question, because your reasons for thinking delta is town are really really dumb. Even by my standards. Also, not answer questions is scummy. So keep up appearances and answer them. It will make you look townz. I promise.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 12:18 pm

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I'm not worried about looking townz. I promise.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 12:31 pm

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UberNinja wrote:I'm not worried about looking townz. I promise.

Would have fooled me.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 12:32 pm

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I'm guessing a lot of things fool you.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 3:59 pm

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UberNinja wrote:Leela can you please stop voting town and make some use of yourself like voting Porochaz?

Thanks


Deltawave would have to first start acting like town for me to move my vote, and if I do move to Poro it will be because I think he's more deserving of a vote.

But :? Wouldn't that be evidence that I'm practicing distancing with Deltawave? Isn't a good portion of the argument against Poro was that he was voting MoS, then said he still was suspicious of MoS and voted on the wagon with MoS, which means he's practicing distancing with MoS? So you're telling me I should move my vote and do the same exact thing that you're voting Poro for? Am I missing something?


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@tammy/leea, still think UN is town?


I never said that I thought UN was town. I have her on my leaning scum list and need to ISO her. I keep going back and forth as there are some posts of hers that strike me as genuine, which has me conflicted. Falcon is more convinced of a scum read on UN than I am and thinks that she looks like she's buddying Jason in her reaction to Peregrine in 1055. I don't see it that way, but yeah the joys of mafia.
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No, I think Delta is town. You can't "distance" from town.

I initially thought jason was scum, yes. But he's been acting much townier of late, and I am gonna (gasp) trust Glork because he said never to lynch him ever. I still have no idea what the "super glork towntell" is, but apparently it's worked for Glork in the past and since he has more experience than me, I might as well listen.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 4:46 pm

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DeltaWave wrote:
Here's the problem. Even though you missed an
important
post, that completely defused a large part of your case, you haven't even considered thinking again about your read here. That's not what town does. That's what scum does when they're looking for a mislynch, and they throw a load of arguments out there, without caring if they're correct or not.


I would really like for you to take a step back and consider what you are saying to me. Because you really need to review the sequence of events and the evolution of our interaction which prompted me to vote you. Just before 7 on Wednesday, I make my first post in which I say you are a strong scum read along with other people I'm leaning scum or am conflicted about and need to ISO. 7 hours later, I ask you a question. In fact, I respond to or ask you a couple along with questions directed to or about the people I have listed as suspects. I get better reads from interacting with people in order to evaluate them rather than just read.

So, 7 hours after I say you're a strong scum read of mine, I pose questions. Just so you know, I would have still asked you a question about why you changed your vote even if I had remembered reading that post, it just wouldn't have included the word suddenly. That you changed your vote I don't care about. In fact, I like the change of vote. I read CoolDog as totes town, Falcon agrees with me on this so yay we agree, so you changing your vote to someone I have a town read on to someone I have in my possibly scum pile makes me happy. But gathering your reasoning in order to evaluate you is something I still would have done even if I remembered post 1008.

You immediately called me a liar, and when I told you I forgot the post you told me I was lying about that too. You then claimed that I lied about forgetting several posts which was a blatant mischaracterization of what I had said ergo the vote as that type of action comes from scum. You then accused me of not reading the thread. Do you see where I am going with this? I didn't have a case against you. I asked you questions. Your reactions to me made the case against you because your reactions to me are not town reactions. There is nothing I have to stop and consider about that. Why don't you re-read how you reacted to me because if you'll pay attention GreyIce called me out for not voting. I told him I hadn't done my ISO's and finished thinking about a few things so I wouldn't be voting until I had a chance to do that. That should tell you that I had no cases at the time that I asked questions; you're mischaracterization of me in order to make me look like scum is what made me convinced you were worthy of a vote. That's it.

delta wrote:

Fine. It makes sense from a scum perspective because it makes his initial vote sound like distancing.

Townies don't just turn around and agree with their highest scumread at the drop of a hat. It just doesn't happen.


Ding ding ding! I love it when people give me the answer I'm looking for. So, in order to believe that you have to believe that MoS and Poro are partners. Now as I read MoS as town, I'm having a hard time with this reasoning. Do you believe that MoS is scum? (Now on my ISO I might find the answer to this, but as we've already discovered I don't hold the thread in my memory) Because unless you do then this reasoning is invalid.

The thing is townies do turn around and jump on a wagon with a scum read at times. I know I've been on a wagon with someone I think is scum before. Yeah, it looks bad and it's scummy, but town can do it nonetheless.

What do you think of Uberninja telling me I should do what she and you and GreyIce are voting Poro for?

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I'm not giving you a hard time for
just
forgetting a post. I'm giving you a hard time
because you forgot a key post that calls your case into doubt
, and you apparently don't seem to be concerned about that. You are showing no regard for whether or not your case is valid, you just want to brush this off. Explain why you aren't bothered.


I'm not bothered because as I explained above it had nothing to do with my case. You happen to be thinking that I think you're scum because you suddenly changed a vote. That has nothing to do with it. Do I think scumhunting by looking for scumslips in a scummy thing to do. Yes, but I know that town do it too because some people really think these things are valid. However, scum tend to use them more often because it gives them a verifiable place to look for scum. However, my case had nothing to do with this because as you will note I had a scum read on you before we ever started talking. You're mischaracterization of me is what confirmed it for me.

delta wrote:
It was an attack against me in a post that wasn't directed at me. I don't know why this is a big deal for you.


It makes you look nervous. You didn't even wait to see what Poro was going to say about that before you defended yourself. Why didn't you feel the need to defend yourself from it when the post was first made?

delta wrote:
I never claimed that you forgot about your read on me. I'm saying that it's funny that you would come out so strongly against me even though you have an incomplete understanding of recent events.

It kind of makes me wonder if someone in your scum QT had mentioned something about going after me today, so you put the cart before the horse and cast your vote before getting fully apprised on the situation.


Again, I didn't come out strongly against you. I asked you questions in an attempt to evaluate you.

Actually my scum qt said we were going after CooLDog today. I'm a rebel.
What's the matter? Am I not an easy of a target as you thought I'd be? Repeating over and over that I'm scum or have a scum qt isn't going to make it so.

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I'm not known for switching my votes quickly or easily. I'm going to see how things play out between you and CD before I make any decisions.


Okay, this I can totally get behind and understand. I happen to be an overcautious voter myself and take forever to vote or move it. Vote count analyzers
love
me, but meh it's just how I am.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 5:27 pm

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UberNinja wrote:No, I think Delta is town. You can't "distance" from town.

I initially thought jason was scum, yes. But he's been acting much townier of late, and I am gonna (gasp) trust Glork because he said never to lynch him ever. I still have no idea what the "super glork towntell" is, but apparently it's worked for Glork in the past and since he has more experience than me, I might as well listen.


Oh *derp* that makes sense.

Yeah, Jason's town. Glork explains it in 623; I thought he explained it elsewhere too. Anyway Jason's posts read very genuine to me.

And, it's posts like these that make me read you as genuine too.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Fri May 25, 2012 8:11 pm

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Well if you're reading me as genuine, then I'm genuinely telling you to stop voting for Deltawave.

People should die in this order:

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