I agree very much with the Uber's real case on Jal.
VOTE: Jal
Is that really the only person you find scummy? No one else? And it just so happens to be the person that was being targeted at that time.. Hm..
If I had to choose between Jal and Greywing, I would choose Greywing. Mainly because I had a town read on Jal almost the entire game. Uber's evidence against Jal is a very good one, but I feel that Greywing is just a little more scummier. I am sheeping Arugula's and Copter's idea about him knowing that Jal is going to flip, so that is one reason why he is scummier. What I find interesting, is how Shii comes in and lays a distraction on other people other than Jal and Greywing. Mainly me and Mala for being so indecisive.(?) Correct me if I'm wrong. You weren't commenting on the main wagons right now either, but instead trying to start different wagons like once again Mala and me. I think that that is more of a distraction than what you think Mala was doing.
Spoiler:
↑Shiidaji wrote:
I really wish we could get a Blastoide wagon up again why aren't you all seeing this
↑Shiidaji wrote:
Are we in too deep for a Mala wagon now?
I don't know if it's just me, but Shii is beginning to look a little scummy in my eyes. The only thing that I find wrong with my logic is I think that Shii is trying to distract the attention away from Jal instead of Greywing. My Scum-team theory right now is Jal-Shii-Shotgun. I think that Shotgun is in that scum team, based on association and not because he has done anything scummy.. Now see, this is where it gets hard for me again. I would rather vote the people I think are mostly scum, but looking at Greywing and Jal, they are smaller compared to BK.. I'd say Copter is around their level, maybe just a bit more. So.. For my final conclusion, I will vote..... After I unvote.
Unvote
Now I will....
Vote: Jal
Now Shii, why haven't you voted yet? If you would vote based off the top two wagons, which one would it be?
↑Blastoide wrote:
drmyshotgun - Maybe a partner because of the lack of interaction with Shii and Jal.
So personally, I'd say it is between Shotgun, Arugula, and maybe Copter and BK. I do think that the last scum was bussing Jal though, so thinking about that situation, it would be:
Uber
, BK, Shotgun,
Chrimi
,
Sexy Beast
, Arugula, and
LH.
Hmm.. Ok... Take BK off the list for now, since he probably isn't scum.. I'll go through the ISO's to make my final decision about Shotgun and Arugula(If anyone cares).
↑drmyshotgun wrote:^Go ahead. Waste your dumbass time.
You think a Scum would bus their Rolecop on Day fucking 1 when there was obviously another good and possible lynch candidate on GreyWing?
Jal wasn't voting the counterwagon on GreyWing. GreyWing also didn't vote on Jal. GreyWing is a suspect.
Oh my, how nice. If you think you can do better go ahead. I don't see you doing any work so far. You actually seem a little defensive. Mad even. Can it be because the town are winning? And I do think that someone would bus. Especially at the last minute. You said it yourself. If you are doubting yourself, go with Uber. You don't think that scum would change wagons last minute with that reason that you gave them? It was really close to deadline. There are many possibilities.
So for now, my vote will be on shotgun. VOTE: drmyshotgun
Out of the few people you mentioned, or more, who do you think is scum?
Copter, can you answer why you think I am the most scum out of the four you mentioned, please?
↑Blastoide wrote:Post 764 and 765 both sound like questions that Jal would have asked. Casting suspicion on the other person. And Jal barely mentioned you in any of Jal's posts. The only question I saw was asking for your reads, Shotgun. And then Shii didn't mention you at all. He did mention Hyperion though. That is one reason why I'd think that you aren't scum, because Shii talked badly about Hyper, but then he proceeded to vote me instead which leaves a little bit of suspicion. And then all of yesterday you were talking about Greywing scum, yet go after Jal. Yes, you did say when you are in doubt follow Uber, but you weren't in doubt. You said that Greywing was scum to you, and you still think he is scum. Today you said that there were two perfectly good wagons yesterday yet you went on the Jal wagon. Why didn't you go on the Greywing wagon yesterday? Because Shii wasn't on the Jal wagon and someone on your team needed to buss? This is how I see it, and I am thinking you are scum now. I would like to hear other peoples opinions though. See what they think.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:37 pm
by drmyshotgun
Thank you~
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:38 pm
by Blastoide
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:41 pm
by UberNinja
↑BK201 wrote:I'm torn on Rofl. His reaction the the Jal lynch day 1 fits the scum bill, but I think that replace out at the sight of uber is a good town-tell... (In the game they were both town and obviously Rofl was still bitter about it. For scum-rofl to replace out at the sight of uber is kind of odd)
Unless that's exactly what he wanted everyone to think.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm
by UberNinja
Damn. This is actually the craziest endgame I've ever been in. Nobody seems to be sticking out too much except BK as usual, and just like last game, he's confirmed town.
I really really really hope Chrimi comes back and claims vig. Ohhh my stars I'm wiggling in my chair because I want it so badly to be true.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:48 pm
by drmyshotgun
Why would BK fakeclaim at this point?
Isn't that like. Digging his own grave?
Since Vig will shoot him?
Or he'll get lynched if the real Vig claims?
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:00 pm
by Blastoide
I don't know if this will help any, but I see some people do it. It is just all of the vote counts summed up.
You know what I didn't notice? We never really used Greywing's mislynch wagon.
Greywing (6):
BK201, Malakittens
, drmyshotgun,
Arugula,
Greywing
, roflcopter
Now even if there wasn't one bussing scum on the Jal wagon(which I still think there is), one of the scum must be on here. Now if you believe that the last scum wasn't bussing, then by this logic the scum would be Copter.
notice? We never really used Greywing's mislynch wagon.
Greywing (6):
BK201, Malakittens
, drmyshotgun,
Arugula,
Greywing
, roflcopter
Now even if there wasn't one bussing scum on the Jal wagon(which I still think there is), one of the scum must be on here. Now if you believe that the last scum wasn't bussing, then by this logic the scum would be Copter.
notice? We never really used Greywing's mislynch wagon.
Greywing (6):
BK201, Malakittens
, drmyshotgun,
Arugula,
Greywing
, roflcopter
Now even if there wasn't one bussing scum on the Jal wagon(which I still think there is), one of the scum must be on here. Now if you believe that the last scum wasn't bussing, then by this logic the scum would be Copter.
You're right, but just in case rofl's lynch doesn't end the game, I want Chrimi's replacement to claim so that person doesn't end up counter-claiming me in Lylo. (Especially considering what Uber said about if Chrimi counter-claims)
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:11 pm
by UberNinja
Here is that vote count info in a more usable form:
↑drmyshotgun wrote:Damn, I got beaten to doing that.
Trying to get town cred, eh?
Of course!
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:19 pm
by Blastoide
Shii and Jal were never on the same wagon.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:35 pm
by UberNinja
↑Blastoide wrote:Shii and Jal were never on the same wagon.
I noticed that. But don't expect their buddy to always be on a different wagon.
If anything, expect him to almost always be on a wagon
with
one of them. Jal and Shiidaji were very probably trying not to all 3 be on a wagon at the same time, so that makes a ton of sense.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:45 pm
by Blastoide
Agreed.. Again. I just thought it was interesting to see. The only problem with that though, is that not a lot of people moved from wagon to wagon. Most of the attention on Day 1 was with Greywing and Chrimi. In that case, Shii, Copter, LH, Arugula, Shotgun, and Chrimi(On Greywing) were on them most of the day. Which doesn't really help our situation here..
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:47 pm
by UberNinja
It doesn't matter. Truth will out.
Plus we have the vig if we don't lynch right.
The odds of scum winning this game are astronomical.
With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline is on the 21st of August.
Finding a replacement for Chrimi.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:54 pm
by Loranthaceae
I thought Chrimi was a PR. It's the only excuse for his unhelpful shit.
Also, upon looking at the votecounts 352 and 359, I looked-up how the vote on Jalcame to being and Chrimi's reason to vote him was superficial and he even finds a viable excuse for him saying he might have been away or busy => a shit vote stretching across 2 votecounts. You could say he wanted Jal to post more, but the reason he supplies for unvoting is that he has a gut scum-feel on him.
↑Chrimi wrote:Okay, personally I both love and hate walls.
I love them because it's a shitton more to read someone on.
I hate them because it takes too long to read.
Now, the jalwall, I don't like so much... Getting gutscum off of Jal, but I don't like going off of my gut too much.
P-edit @ Malakittens: Not at the moment, no.
It looks to me like the kind of interaction that is supposed to make him (Chrimi) look like an idiot on purpose, and people tend to avoid sheeping idiots so this whole thing amounts to Chrimi protecting Jal, sort of. Look at it this way .. every lynch on a player has some sort of subconscious flavor, an assembly of halfthoughts, impressions and moods you associate with that outcome of events. If someone like Chrimi comes along, who has been spamming the thread and generally acting manic, and he is the first one to propose a lynch on Jal by voting for him with shitty reasons.. then he adds the first ingredients to that flavor. If the ingredient is shit.. than nobody cares to taste it and so we have a repugnant flavor that we associate with this event of lynching Jal and we avoid its realization.
Since this is all speculation I'm letting my vote lounge on rofl until Chrimi's replacement gets to say something
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:19 am
by UberNinja
That's the reason I thought Chrimi was a PR too.
Also because of how angry he got when I started pressuring him. As if he didn't want to have to claim his PR because he was excited to be a vig, and me hounding him like that was fucking with his dream of vigging scum.
If he's not the vig though, c'est la vie. That leaves me and BK as conftown, the vote count analysis posts get updated with BK's name in green, and we go from there.
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:17 pm
by Blastoide
Unrelated Game Stuff: I almost forgot! If you are reading this Mala, Happy Birthday!
Related Game Comment: I am sad that Chrimi is getting replaced, but I am excited to see who it will be.
