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↑ VP Baltar wrote:who's scum, emp?

Four, mostly out of PoE though so I don't like it. You've been obv-town all game and I believe Levi's and Macho's respective claims.

Levi, who do you think is scum?

I believe that whoever THAD was after is scummy. might be obvious. but good to go on.

still don't believe in 2dumb4scum emp?

I'm basically thinking 4trouble has to be it, but it's always good to think about it for a bit if it seems too easy.

↑ VP Baltar wrote:still don't believe in 2dumb4scum emp?

If by '2dumb4scum' you mean '2ignorant4scum' and you were just after a rhyme then I suppose I do buy it. (And I suppose a smart person can play ignorant so apparent ignorance coming from a smart person doesn't mean much, wjhile ignorance froma dumb person...)

VP, why isn't it Empking?

I think its More likely to be fourtrouble then Empking. just getting that vibe at the moment.

How the fvck is Empking town? You guys need to take another look at PV's ISO, HD's ISO, and compare the way they interact with me and the way they interact with Empking. Take a look at Empking's ISO, compare that to my ISO.

Do I have to go back and point out my town tells for you guys?

↑ FourTrouble wrote:How the fvck is Empking town? You guys need to take another look at PV's ISO, HD's ISO, and compare the way they interact with me and the way they interact with Empking. Take a look at Empking's ISO, compare that to my ISO.

Trust me, I'll give you a fair shake and look at all those things. I haven't voted you as of this time, so that pretty much implies I"m not jumping to any conclusions. I just see you as much more desperate right now to "prove" you had no connections with scum. It doesn't feel right.

I'll spell it out for you again: PV had no interactions with Empking whatsoever yet implicitly defends him multiple times. Further, HD's suspicion of Empking on D1 was totally irrational and unrealistic. Take a look at HD's interactions with Rest compared with Empking. Finally, note that Empking implicitly defended PV and HD (the scummy part being it was implicit).

I am fvcking desperate - Nacho thinks I'm scum, you think I'm scum, Levi thinks I'm scum, and Empking obviously is gonna vote whoever he can get lynched. How does desperation in any way whatsoever make me scummy? Empking's not even under any pressure right now so no shit he's not gonna look desperate relatively-speaking.

Empking, who you gonna vote when I flip town?

Well, personally, if I was you and I knew I was town and was pretty certain empking was scum, I wouldn't really be desperate. Even if I was lynched, town could just easily lynch the obv scum the following day. Hence why I think think reeking of desperation is more likely to come from scum than town.

I've been in similar situations before as town and lost. I decided to go down without a fight and the next Day town is stupid enough to lynch the wrong guy. Levi, for example could vote Nacho. I'm not gonna just let myself get lynched. Self-preservation is null. You really need to start looking at the things that actually matter. I've spelled out exactly what makes Empking more likely to be scum.

If you have some reason you think Empking is town, now is the time to explain.

Link to your example please

In post 1113, FourTrouble wrote:Empking, who you gonna vote when I flip town?

You're not going to flip town, but if you did it'd have to be VP which is how I know you're not going to flip town.

When I flip town, how are you going to argue for your defense Empking?

In post 1118, FourTrouble wrote:When I flip town, how are you going to argue for your defense Empking?

You're not going to flip town. I've nothing more to say to on this line of thought; nobody else makes sense as scum.

Okay. Lynch me, Empking dies tomorrow. GG.

Okay, mAtE.

btw, we can add refusal to consider my flip as town to Empking's list of scummy behavior, as well as his very delayed vote considering his certainty.

In post 1111, FourTrouble wrote:I'll spell it out for you again: PV had no interactions with Empking whatsoever yet implicitly defends him multiple times. Further, HD's suspicion of Empking on D1 was totally irrational and unrealistic. Take a look at HD's interactions with Rest compared with Empking. Finally, note that Empking implicitly defended PV and HD (the scummy part being it was implicit).

Irrational suspicion is scummy in general, and unless there's a specific reason that suspicion led to them being partners, all you're doing is making a case for HD-scum. No interactions with Empking but implicitly defending him is also a strange point since the person whose attacked Empking the most in this game is... HD. I'd like something better than this, something maybe focused more on Empking and not interactions?