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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:34 am
by Syryana
In post 1090, Tierce wrote:Syryana offered me a puppy.
BB voted me.
Obvious choice~
A BB wagon is more interesting than a Syryana wagon.
I think this might be the scummiest post I've ever seen you make.
!vote Tierce
serrapaladin wrote:So does this actually mean that shos is conftown now? If Rufflig's sourcecode is correct, Malfunctioning Inventor couldn't have given out Psych.
If that's the case, I can't really see a situation in which both Voided and Syry are town.
He dug that out from an old version of Xylbot. I don't think we can make that assumption tbh.
Why does one of {Syryana, Voided} have to be scum?
BBmolla wrote:Serra's claim sounds like a crock of shit btw.
If you thought that, why didn't you hammer him?
Pedit: I think several people have now asked you why you think I'm scum, Molla. Answer the goddamn question.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:37 am
by BBmolla
At least you're the kind that busses
I honestly don't remember, I'd tell you if I did. I'll set some time and go reread your ISO, who knows, maybe I'll even find you actually town.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:39 am
by Tierce
One-shot cop. Mac investigated The Rufflig N1.
Popcorn shos.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:58 am
by serrapaladin
In post 1096, Voidedmafia wrote:why do think that it's impossible for both of us to be town, and who would be scum?
Well perhaps not completely impossible, but I can't really see 2 of {Tierce, BB, OS} being scum. Rufflig is conftown and even though it's not certain, I think this makes shos town as well.
Particularly given we're at an odd number, I think Voided/ Syry is a good shout.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:27 am
by Syryana
In post 1103, serrapaladin wrote:Well perhaps not completely impossible, but I can't really see 2 of {Tierce, BB, OS} being scum.
Why not?
serrapaladin wrote:Particularly given we're at an odd number, I think Voided/ Syry is a good shout.
Of course you do. If you're a survivor as you claim, then it's a twofer. If you're scum, you either win outright (assuming three scum or two scum with kill/recruit abilities) or get to LyLo (assuming two scum with no extra kill/recruit abilities).
Why don't you give updated cases on why either of us is scum?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:55 am
by serrapaladin
OS is town because UT was town and the early VT claim wouldn't come from scum. Tierce/BB wouldn't randomly cross-bus, when there's no particular need.
Why would I care about getting the game back to odd numbers? Getting 2 for 1 lynches now won't make the game be over any sooner.
I'm not saying I could make a good case against either one of you, I just can't see a scenario in which neither one of you is scum.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:57 pm
by shos
Thats alittle too convenient. Someone go check if mac really had something againsy.ruff.
I already claimed inventor and n1,2 targets, voided and pimhel.
Popcorn to bbmolla
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:04 pm
by Tierce
It may look convenient, but Mac couldn't guess Rufflig was a Friendly Neighbor.
BB already claimed VT. I forgot your N2 target.
Oversoul's the last one, just checking it.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:31 pm
by Voidedmafia
In post 36, Mac wrote:I didn't realise the game had started, thanks for the pm mod.
!vote bbmolla
In post 67, Mac wrote:Fucking hell, this is just screaming bastard.
Considering these are his only posts...I doubt it.
Or it was randomly deciding during the night for him. COnsidering those are his only posts, I'd bet on that.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:48 pm
by The Rufflig
Day 2 started on the 13th. Mac requested replacement on the 16th. It is possible that Mac submitted an action. We have no corroborating proof from wind-up. However, Tierce's first post indicates that such an investigation took place or that she was setting up for such a claim. Considering my lack of presence on day 1, I imagine I was at least a potential player to be checked by any inspect abilities.
On a related note, the source code I have states an inventor gives out an inspect, block, kill or protect. It is possible that Kublai Khan isn't running my version of the code, but ... let's say I have some doubts about psych. How does one mix up a psych ability with receiving a player's alignment??? I don't understand Voidedmafia.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:51 pm
by Tierce
!xmafia vote BBmolla
That'd help.
BB, you managed to disappear from the game even more than before since I replaced in. Yay Tierce, you're what this game needed, and then... crickets. I don't care if you're lazy, I've seen you be lazy as scum as well and I've ended up replacing in a scum slot of yours for my trouble in reading your laziness as Town. Pull the other one.
It's probably BBmolla/Syryana/possibly one of shos/Voided. Have to look at interactions tomorrow.
PEdit: Can you do me a favor and look at roles that evolve/mutate? Not at home.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:57 pm
by Tierce
In post 1109, The Rufflig wrote:How does one mix up a psych ability with receiving a player's alignment??? I don't understand Voidedmafia.
I guess it is possible...? It is incredibly derpy, but... Reading any such message as "[you can't use your ability because] The Rufflig is Town aligned" is a blunder, but it's not scummy. What would scum-Voided have to gain from saying he did such a stupefying mistake? It's null, because sadly idiocy is not bound to any one alignment.
Do you think he's faking it? It's possible, but what did he have to gain from faking such a far-fetched and nonsensical mistake, if he did receive the psych ability?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:00 pm
by Voidedmafia
In post 1109, The Rufflig wrote:How does one mix up a psych ability with receiving a player's alignment??? I don't understand Voidedmafia.
...Because that would mean I thought you were an SK I turned into a VT? What's so hard to understand about that? I'm aware that there are certain jumps here that look illogical in hindsight, but think: If you get an ability that can turn an SK into a VT N1, and you suddenly get a PM saying "btw, you know this guy is town," why wouldn't one of my first thoughts (if not the first thought) be "my ability was used already?" Especially since at the time (AFAIK) there was no indication from you that you were a Friendly Neighbor.
Also, I suppose it's true he might've, though due to his lack of posts I don't really see how your lack of presence D1 really would've pinged anything worth investigating for him, especially since D1 ended as abruptly as it did. Maybe if Parama had quickhammered a few days later, it'd be more possible, but I honestly can't see that.
P-EDIT: Ouch...Hurts, Tierce.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:18 pm
by Tierce
It's not personal. Goodness knows I've had my time with the idiot ball in games. It was a silly assumption for you to make, but that doesn't make it a scummy assumption.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:21 pm
by Tierce
Oh, his reasoning in 1112 makes more sense than mine. Still silly, because actions are not automatic, but doesn't look bad. Let me check something...
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:28 pm
by Tierce
Yeah, I'm fine with Voided. Regardless of his alignment, from Rufflig's Friendly Neighbor action Voided knew Rufflig was Town, but that whole back and forth and frustration at Rufflig reads much more like a Town player who knows his accuser is Town and is frustrated by it than as a scum player trying to discredit his accuser. Look how he never paints Rufflig in a negative light. It looks like genuine Town frustration.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:04 pm
by shos
Bט PoE, I think Molla, Syry and OS are our primary targets for today. of those, I'm going with
!vote Syryana
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:14 pm
by Tierce
^ Much love for the Hebrew keyboard slip.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:22 pm
by serrapaladin
!vote Syryana
lynching him or Voided is functionally equivalent. I think that's L-1.
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:24 pm
by Tierce
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:28 pm
by shos
hahaha lol that should be a By lol x) wonder how that happened.
!xmafia votes
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:32 pm
by serrapaladin
lol wut?
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:45 am
by Kublai Khan
||| MAFIABOT || VOTE COUNT (5 to lynch) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Syryana - 5 (BBmolla Oversoul shos serrapaladin Tierce) |||
||| MAFIABOT || VoidedMafia - 1 (shos) |||
||| MAFIABOT || BBmolla - 1 (Tierce) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Living players: BBmolla Tierce serrapaladin shos Syryana The_Rufflig Oversoul Voidedmafia |||
||| MAFIABOT || Syryana has been lynched. |||
||| MAFIABOT || Syryana was a Sibling (town). |||
||| MAFIABOT || Voidedmafia has died. |||
||| MAFIABOT || Voidedmafia was a Sibling (town). |||
||| MAFIABOT || Game over! Winners: scum: Tierce serrapaladin Oversoul PimHel |||
||| MAFIABOT || mafia: Tierce (Spy) serrapaladin (Delayer) Oversoul (Pillar of the Community) |||
||| MAFIABOT || mafia-ally: PimHel (Voteblocker) |||
||| MAFIABOT || town: The_Rufflig (Friendly Neighbor) Parama (Vigilante) shos (Inventor) Varsoon (Roleblocker) MonkeyMan576 (Human Shield) sharper (Townie) BBmolla (Townie) Syryana (Sibling) Voidedmafia (Sibling)|||
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:46 am
by Kublai Khan
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:51 am
by Tierce
Join game 1.
Draw scum.
Join game 2.
Draw scum.
Join game 3.
Draw scum.
I hate all the things.
But hey, not complaining about that victory.
Thanks for modding, KK!