technically it's mylo because there's always a chance that scum kills traitor at night.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:55 pm
by GuyInFreezer
In post 1096, bubbajack8 wrote:What. I have town motivation. I don't see Jake as a PR, and it looked like he softed one, I don't read meta so I didn't know that he says that every game. Sue me.
So let me get this clear. You had a town motivation, so you attempted to fish out a PR because you thought he was softing it.
So what's your town motivation of fishing out PR?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:09 pm
by bubbajack8
GiF what part of I'm done arguing this do you miss? I saw him soft PR. I don't think he's PR and it is unlikely for him to blatantly soft like that as a real PR with 2 PRS dead (including the doc) SO I didn't think he was PR, but that he wanted people to think he was. But apparently he does it every game.
Also before Rob gets his titties in a twist, Rob literally called someone out as a PR because he thought they were a PR town, I called Jake out on the basis that I thought he was scum trying to appear as a PR, those are 2 different things.
Also Gif it is technically "mylo" but I already brought the mafia to the attention that Rob is scum. The more I look back at this game, the more I realize how terrible I've been. I may have called Rob out as traitor, but calling him traitor informed scum of it.
traitor counts as town towards parity otherwise they would NOT be called traitor
traitor is aligned with the mafia, but shows up inno. Just the mafia don't know traitor.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:19 pm
by GuyInFreezer
k.
Also, can you link the post where Rob called someone a PR? I probably want to read that part again but I don't feel like digging it up myself.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:32 pm
by bubbajack8
In post 506, Rob14 wrote:I am confident in my Pirate town read. Ask yourself what any possible scum motivation could exist for me to strong town read my scum partner while giving no reasons while I have suspicion on me. There isn't one. I would be looking to distance, if anything, from my partner in this position if I were scum.
Of course none of my reads are rock solid. It's day one. But I'm confident in my Pirate read as well as my reads on Bubba, Jake, and Dav/Fuzzy. The rest of the reads are not so strong. Rmp has shifted back in the town direction for me a while back, for one, and the other people I don't have very solid anything on.
If you don't think that claiming that Dav's screenshot could be editted and therefore cannot be used against Bubba is not defending Bubba, rmp, then you and I have different definitions of defending. I'm not entirely sure anymore whether it makes you scummy, though. I definitely have more of Bubba defending rmp than rmp defending bubba. Could just be one-sided buddying from the scum, trying to bring his friend onto his side.
The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum. Run me up to L-1 or lynch me if you want - that reason isn't getting revealed.
In post 506, Rob14 wrote:The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:33 pm
by GuyInFreezer
I don't see Rob calling PC a PR there.
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:44 pm
by Piratecat
VOTE: gif
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:44 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Spoiler: Dear Jake
It's not like it matters but
In post 1052, Jake from State Farm wrote:
It's the fact that you posted here Saturday April 28th at 11:30pm and go on to post 64 times on site between that post and Wednesday morning without posting in this game.
In post 506, Rob14 wrote:I am confident in my Pirate town read. Ask yourself what any possible scum motivation could exist for me to strong town read my scum partner while giving no reasons while I have suspicion on me. There isn't one. I would be looking to distance, if anything, from my partner in this position if I were scum.
Of course none of my reads are rock solid. It's day one. But I'm confident in my Pirate read as well as my reads on Bubba, Jake, and Dav/Fuzzy. The rest of the reads are not so strong. Rmp has shifted back in the town direction for me a while back, for one, and the other people I don't have very solid anything on.
If you don't think that claiming that Dav's screenshot could be editted and therefore cannot be used against Bubba is not defending Bubba, rmp, then you and I have different definitions of defending. I'm not entirely sure anymore whether it makes you scummy, though. I definitely have more of Bubba defending rmp than rmp defending bubba. Could just be one-sided buddying from the scum, trying to bring his friend onto his side.
The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum. Run me up to L-1 or lynch me if you want - that reason isn't getting revealed.
In post 506, Rob14 wrote:The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum.
The tell I saw could be a VT tell, a PR tell, a plain old town tell and I could be WIFOMing, etc. Until, of course, you brought up the fact that he could be a vig. You brought that up, not me. Now you've blatantly stated someone is cop or scum - something that, if Jake is not scum, gives the actual scum all the info they need to kill the cop if you're right. So tell me again what your town motivation for doing that is, especially after you attacked me for calling out a PR (which I didn't even do).
Also, Bubba, saying you're done arguing doesn't mean you're done arguing. Unless you plan to just lurk and hope it goes away, you're going to continue having questions directed at you and you'll have to give something in the way of an answer to them. You dun goofed - your entrance in this day was awful and I'm not going to stop calling you out on it just because you're "done arguing".
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:51 pm
by GuyInFreezer
In post 1108, Rob14 wrote:The tell I saw could be a VT tell, a PR tell, a plain old town tell and I could be WIFOMing, etc.
This.
I don't see this anywhere close to what bubba did.
In post 1052, Jake from State Farm wrote:
It's the fact that you posted here Saturday April 28th at 11:30pm and go on to post 64 times on site between that post and Wednesday morning without posting in this game.
I just posted that spoiler as off-topic stuff but if you really want my explanation, jake said I stopped posting at Saturday, and the link says otherwise.
That's not strictly true, actually. Yes, the traitor wins if the mafia wins, but if the hooker and stalker die, then the town wins. Sorry—the omission of that detail in the Traitor role PM was an honest mistake on my part. I've gone to correct it in the OP and have PM'd the affected player.
In post 506, Rob14 wrote:I am confident in my Pirate town read. Ask yourself what any possible scum motivation could exist for me to strong town read my scum partner while giving no reasons while I have suspicion on me. There isn't one. I would be looking to distance, if anything, from my partner in this position if I were scum.
Of course none of my reads are rock solid. It's day one. But I'm confident in my Pirate read as well as my reads on Bubba, Jake, and Dav/Fuzzy. The rest of the reads are not so strong. Rmp has shifted back in the town direction for me a while back, for one, and the other people I don't have very solid anything on.
If you don't think that claiming that Dav's screenshot could be editted and therefore cannot be used against Bubba is not defending Bubba, rmp, then you and I have different definitions of defending. I'm not entirely sure anymore whether it makes you scummy, though. I definitely have more of Bubba defending rmp than rmp defending bubba. Could just be one-sided buddying from the scum, trying to bring his friend onto his side.
The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum. Run me up to L-1 or lynch me if you want - that reason isn't getting revealed.
In post 506, Rob14 wrote:The reason why I won't reveal my reason for the read on Pirate is because it would be harmful to the town for me to do that. Needless to say, I think I saw a specific tell a while back near the beginning of the game that convinces me Pirate isn't scum.
The tell I saw could be a VT tell, a PR tell, a plain old town tell and I could be WIFOMing, etc. Until, of course, you brought up the fact that he could be a vig. You brought that up, not me. Now you've blatantly stated someone is cop or scum - something that, if Jake is not scum, gives the actual scum all the info they need to kill the cop if you're right. So tell me again what your town motivation for doing that is, especially after you attacked me for calling out a PR (which I didn't even do).
Also, Bubba, saying you're done arguing doesn't mean you're done arguing. Unless you plan to just lurk and hope it goes away, you're going to continue having questions directed at you and you'll have to give something in the way of an answer to them. You dun goofed - your entrance in this day was awful and I'm not going to stop calling you out on it just because you're "done arguing".
Of course you won't let it go, you want me mled for it. I've explained it 10000 times. Fucking read.
Btw, that tell excuse is Bullshit. Jake outted his reason why he thought I was a VT. There's nothing wrong in outting a VT tell.
bubba 609 wrote: Rob i just said that you saw her as a PR, I never asked for the tell of her being a PR i never even thought she was vig....
In post 604, Rob14 wrote:So now both Bubba and Jake have openly speculated in thread that Pirate is a possible vig. Fucking lovely. There's totally a town motivation for doing that. Definitely.
1. Neither of us said she was vig, unless I missed Jake saying that.
2. Why didn't you make up some bullshit reasons for her being town, like what scum motivation is there too say _____
3. Why didn't you just say you had a gut feeling she is town like everyone else has said about people?
4. There's a total town motivation for hiding reasons on a read (your words)
bubba 623 wrote: Rob this is really nice play. soft that you think someone is a PR then get mad when we call it out. Or you can just say gut like everyone else. i dont understand why you would soft he as being a pr its not towny at all.
Once again since you guys refuse to read, Rob was softing he thought pirate was a PR, I WAS saying I THOUGHT Jake was scum trying to look like a PR.
P:edit Thanks Richard for clarifying that town wins if they lynch stalker and hooker.
In post 1052, Jake from State Farm wrote:
It's the fact that you posted here Saturday April 28th at 11:30pm and go on to post 64 times on site between that post and Wednesday morning without posting in this game.
Obviously I meant Sunday. Same difference. You avoided this game for more than 48 hours which is the activity requirement. Thus you were purposely lurking to avoid the rob v pirate v jake argument.
I suggest you read, cause rob even admitted he thought pirate was the vig
I admitted that after you and Bubba speculated openly on it, though, which I think is an important distinction.
And yes, Bubba, outing a VT tell is a bad thing because it makes the pool of possible PRs smaller. It makes it more likely for scum to hit a PR if they shoot amongst that pool. I wouldn't out a VT tell just the same as I wouldn't out a PR tell. I might be a bit different than others in that respect, though.
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:24 am
by GuyInFreezer
I didn't see it -.-
I was pretty confident that I remember most of the stuff that happened d1. I'll probably reread.
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:13 am
by Rob14
In post 1119, Rob14 wrote:And yes, Bubba, outing a VT tell is a bad thing because it makes the pool of possible PRs smaller. It makes it more likely for scum to hit a PR if they shoot amongst that pool. I wouldn't out a VT tell just the same as I wouldn't out a PR tell. I might be a bit different than others in that respect, though.
This is the same reason, ftr, why claiming as a VT without good reason isn't a good idea. That's how I think of outting a VT tell.
I suggest you read, cause rob even admitted he thought pirate was the vig
I admitted that after you and Bubba speculated openly on it, though, which I think is an important distinction.
Oh. Mah. Gawd. We called you OUT ON IT, and YOU GOT PISSED.
Person 1 softs someone out as softing person as PR.
Person 2 calls person 1 out.
Person 2 blamed.
Do you see how this makes no sense?
In post 1119, Rob14 wrote:
And yes, Bubba, outing a VT tell is a bad thing because it makes the pool of possible PRs smaller. It makes it more likely for scum to hit a PR if they shoot amongst that pool. I wouldn't out a VT tell just the same as I wouldn't out a PR tell. I might be a bit different than others in that respect, though.
Well As IVE ALREADY STATED if you would READ. I thought Jake was soft claiming PR as SCUM, because I don't see him as cop. And his chances of actually being cop are low. Nonetheless; It was apparently a meta thing, and I didnt know.
Also if outting a VT tell is a bad thing, I guess Jake must be scum. Remember that?
Also you said yourself your D1 reads are bad, so why should we believe your D1 tells? Just because you think someone is something does mean they are; see Rob calling pirate vig, and rmp flipping vig.
Also let's get into an argument that actually matters Rob, what changed your mind on fuzzy?
