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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:12 am
by Lucky2u
VOTE: fferyllt

So by process of elimination...

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:58 am
by fferyllt
In post 1099, Lucky2u wrote:It's not Amrun unless she is a ninja. I used my reporter last night on her and she was home so she wasn't out killing.
Jason said he used all his shots.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:26 am
by Lucky2u
Ah, in that case he was lying. Allow me to clarify because I didn't really read his iso. I am a reporter follower and voyeur, the latter two were used on P_A. When Jason voyeured it got that she was investigated, when he followed he got nothing. He never used the reporter, so I still had it replacing in. He probably lied to save his skin as scum would think he was a VT. Paid off didn't it?

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:30 am
by fferyllt
He said he used it on Night 1. On CDB IIRC.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:39 am
by Lucky2u
and I just told you he was lying. Obviously I can't ask him what his strategy was but it got us here, and cleared one of the only remaining two possible scum. Since you are the other, I can understand how that upsets you.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:38 am
by fferyllt
In post 1104, Lucky2u wrote:and I just told you he was lying. Obviously I can't ask him what his strategy was but it got us here, and cleared one of the only remaining two possible scum. Since you are the other, I can understand how that upsets you.
If we are an autowin, I'm reluctantly ok with being mislynched today. If.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:42 am
by Lucky2u
Well I actually don't think we are. The assumption is that there is ONE scum left right? My report said Amrun was home, so she couldn't have done that night kill last night. That means it has to be you. If we lynch you and you are town then we are back to square 1 and someone is lying and we let it fall through the cracks. So I am going to push for your lynch and if you really are town, I'd like you to tell us who, in your opinion, could be the scum that we are over looking.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:00 am
by Nachomamma8
Lucky, two scum left.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:14 am
by Lucky2u
In post 1107, Nachomamma8 wrote:Lucky, two scum left.
ah... woops...

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:46 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1094, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1083, Nachomamma8 wrote:The only thing that could possibly be accomplished is if there is some reason to doubt any of the PRs. Rach would have to be a scum tracker who followed me not once, but TWICE after she found me going nowhere the first time. This makes absolutely no sense.

Jason would have to be a scum Voyeur (unless Nexus gave the scumteam two Scum JOATS, which is a hell no type of situation), who ended up counterclaiming his partner after being run up immediately after him, and also had Stubbs claiming a strong JOAT while he claimed a more reasonable weak JOAT.

Nacho-scum requires me not using my rolecop N2 (while killing a fruit vendor) and partners not submitting it for me, then pretty much forcing myself to clear her and not looking for power roles anywhere else although we would be expecting a town more powerful than fruit vendor/JOAT. It also requires pseudo strongman and rolecop and scum JOAT against a three close to useless roles and a tracker, which seems like shitty balance to me.

PA is town unless the pseudo strongman is also a ninja, which is also ridiculously unbalanced.
also, what do you think about this?

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:47 am
by Nachomamma8
ffery, what are your prospects of winning this lylo, do you think? I'm thinking you're looking for a bunch of cracks, can't really find them... is that why you've reverted into your helpful "say things that aren't lies but don't actually say anything about the elephant in the room" scum meta?

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:23 pm
by Amrun
Oh my God, my brain is full of fuck. I do not know how JacobSavage was not scum and it's FUCKING WITH MY BRAIN.

I'm at a loss.

If I were to toss down a vote right now, it would be on ffery, but this is far too important for things like that. We have enough flips now that whoever is scum is not going to be obvious. They have done something strong.

My second choice is nacho. His vote on me today feels off in the way he did it as opposed to things he's said in the past and how he's said it. But meh, I thought he was town before.

I have had a townread on every single person left at some point -- a;slfkja;sldkfj . I need to re-examine some things.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:27 pm
by Amrun
In post 1102, Lucky2u wrote:Ah, in that case he was lying. Allow me to clarify because I didn't really read his iso. I am a reporter follower and voyeur, the latter two were used on P_A. When Jason voyeured it got that she was investigated, when he followed he got nothing. He never used the reporter, so I still had it replacing in. He probably lied to save his skin as scum would think he was a VT. Paid off didn't it?
what the fuck, jason.

this is so outlandish that i feel as if lucky is not lying. jesus.


also, it's possible there's one scum left, just more likely it's two.

But to be honest, I still feel like anyone that looks at me and stubbs interaction day 1 and seriously things I'm still scum is lulz. I may allow it simply due to PoE, but I'll laugh so hard if I'm lynched today.


But it seriously begs the question why jason/lucky is still alive. lucky's entrance makes me feel even more conflicted - as it is really not-scum-oriented play. So probably my lingering doubts there are wrong. I dont' see the scum motivation for admitting to lying in order to try and CLEAR someone who could reasonably be a lynch today, especially as I've claimed Draco Malfoy VT.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:27 pm
by Amrun
Even if Jason/lucky slot is town, WHY he is still alive bears looking at. The scum's n1 kill was really transparent and it made stubbs scum... Theyre trying to acheive something with their nightkills - so what are they achieving here?

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:48 pm
by fferyllt
In post 1110, Nachomamma8 wrote:ffery, what are your prospects of winning this lylo, do you think? I'm thinking you're looking for a bunch of cracks, can't really find them... is that why you've reverted into your helpful "say things that aren't lies but don't actually say anything about the elephant in the room" scum meta?
I'm trying to think if you've ever misread me this badly especially at this stage of a game.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:52 pm
by fferyllt
In post 1112, Amrun wrote:
In post 1102, Lucky2u wrote:Ah, in that case he was lying. Allow me to clarify because I didn't really read his iso. I am a reporter follower and voyeur, the latter two were used on P_A. When Jason voyeured it got that she was investigated, when he followed he got nothing. He never used the reporter, so I still had it replacing in. He probably lied to save his skin as scum would think he was a VT. Paid off didn't it?
what the fuck, jason.

this is so outlandish that i feel as if lucky is not lying. jesus.


also, it's possible there's one scum left, just more likely it's two.

But to be honest, I still feel like anyone that looks at me and stubbs interaction day 1 and seriously things I'm still scum is lulz. I may allow it simply due to PoE, but I'll laugh so hard if I'm lynched today.


But it seriously begs the question why jason/lucky is still alive. lucky's entrance makes me feel even more conflicted - as it is really not-scum-oriented play. So probably my lingering doubts there are wrong. I dont' see the scum motivation for admitting to lying in order to try and CLEAR someone who could reasonably be a lynch today, especially as I've claimed Draco Malfoy VT.
This. If he's scum then unless you're scum there was no reason to try to get me lynched over you.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:32 pm
by Amrun
Sryana felt scummy Day 1.

Fleh, you know the fuck what, I'm kind of leaning toward Nacho right now. I need some time to sit on this.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:34 pm
by Amrun
but as you can see by my typing my sanity/awakeness is quickly fleeing - revisit tomorrow, love you all

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:58 am
by Lucky2u
In post 1109, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1094, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1083, Nachomamma8 wrote:The only thing that could possibly be accomplished is if there is some reason to doubt any of the PRs. Rach would have to be a scum tracker who followed me not once, but TWICE after she found me going nowhere the first time. This makes absolutely no sense.

Jason would have to be a scum Voyeur (unless Nexus gave the scumteam two Scum JOATS, which is a hell no type of situation), who ended up counterclaiming his partner after being run up immediately after him, and also had Stubbs claiming a strong JOAT while he claimed a more reasonable weak JOAT.

Nacho-scum requires me not using my rolecop N2 (while killing a fruit vendor) and partners not submitting it for me, then pretty much forcing myself to clear her and not looking for power roles anywhere else although we would be expecting a town more powerful than fruit vendor/JOAT. It also requires pseudo strongman and rolecop and scum JOAT against a three close to useless roles and a tracker, which seems like shitty balance to me.

PA is town unless the pseudo strongman is also a ninja, which is also ridiculously unbalanced.
also, what do you think about this?
Actually this is what got me confused. I thought this was saying one scum, so we're good.

As a replacement, I'm kind of relying on the wisdom of the other town here to steer me a bit.

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:31 am
by penguin_alien
Nacho, if you vote for fferyllt I'll hammer.

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:38 am
by Nachomamma8
Vote: fferyllt


I figured you'd want more discussion.

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:56 am
by fferyllt
VOTE: fferyllt

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:03 am
by Lucky2u
Seriously...

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:15 am
by Nexus
Votecount 5.1:


fferyllt (3-LYNCH) -
Lucky2u, Nachomamma8, fferyllt

Not voting (2)-
Amrun, penguin_alien

fferyllt - the Basilisk - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 5


Night now falls. Deadline is in 48 hours, at 6pm BST on Friday 25th October 2013

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:34 am
by Nexus
penguin_alien - Mr Weasley's Ford Anglia - Hogwarts-aligned Townie - Stunned Night 5


With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch. Deadline is in 10 days, on Monday 4th November at 7pm GMT.