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Ya know, I don't think I've ever been in three-player LyLo.

TIP kill is interesting. Given that this last day was setting up to be (possibly) VS vs. Cait Sith, the fact that he was killed over me means that either the scum think I'm a possible mislynch, or they'd rather have a stable player (me) around rather than a total wildcard, which indicates they want the status quo (i.e. lynching Cait Sith today) to occur.

Then again, it could just be VS either taking my last post yesterday seriously, or having no good options, or expecting me to psyche myself out precisely the way I currently am.

Ceph wrote: (i.e. lynching Cait Sith today)

Meant VS.

This sucks. I haven't been brought into lylo in over a year.

I got to talk to Mala for a few minutes when she was on break, and neither of us have any experience with Cephrir and minimal experience with jiffy though both have decent experience with mara.

Cephrir was one of my strongest town read from the start of the game and I'm loathe to give that up, but I'm in a similar situation to what Cephrir posted except for I'm pretty sure we were brought her to be the mislynch. Right now I'm bouncing between Cephrir counting on VS continuing the push on me, and if Cephrir is scum here, I fully expect to lose this unless Mara has talked some sense into Jiffy. So, right now I'm just hoping that it's VS is scum as then hopefully town will have a shot.

But here's the thing, and I hope whichever one of you is town will see this, this is an endgame scenario that I would never ever put myself in. There is no way as scum that I would bring along someone who had declared they were definitely lynching me the next day. I just wouldn't. I always work on getting threats first, and in that regard I would have killed VS the night that SoS died because they were dissonant and only one head was calling me town.

I just hope that whoever is town reads back over my play because it's not even close to being scum. And I know that some people don't like self-meta, but in case Cephrir you are town since you don't know anything about me, you should probably know that I hate playing scum. Like really really hate it. I also think I'm terrible at it, but I've been told lately that I'm not as bad as I think I am, but the fact remains I don't think very highly of my scum game at all. Therefore, I wouldn't bus Nacho the day after the tracker caught one of us. (I also am super serious I would never never forget what a hider did as scum. As scum I would be worried about being caught, not just thinking that the hider could clear people.) Because I think so poorly of my scum game, I volunteer to be the one bussed when we think it's the best way to go. I think much higher of Nacho/Cabd's scum game than mine and would have let them lynch me and let them get the town cred, not the other way around. But please read through that because there's no way that was a bus. Not only that but I highly believe in trying to win the game at 5p lylo when at all possible, so that interaction and outcome would not have happened. It just wouldn't.

And Mara if you guys are town, please talk to majiffy because you know I'm speaking the truth above. And I know that people can go oh you can change your scum game, and that is true, and maybe one day it will be, but it's not right now, not with how I feel about my scum game. So maybe in a year this won't apply, but it certainly does right now.

Also I kind of want to punch in the face whoever is trying to take away how great I felt about catching Nacho and being right.

Anyway, I need to re-read over the game and talk to Mala about stuff.

GODDAMMIT

this is literally worst lylo to be in ever

Mara, I think that's you.

When Mala and I talked for a few minutes, she said that you couldn't read her, but that she thought you probably would read her correctly if you were scum. Unfortunately her break was over and we didn't continue, but do you think that if you were scum you would just call Mala town?

In post 1105, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:GODDAMMIT

this is literally

the

worst lylo to be in ever

and how is this the worst lylo for you to be in ever?

For whoever is town besides me this should be pretty damn simple. And if you're town you'll have to explain to me why you think we would leave you alive and bring you to lylo.

Because if there's one thing I'm not, it's a fucking moron. And putting myself in this lylo would be pretty fucking moronic.

And maybe cephrir doesn't know my play but you do have experience with me so even thinking I would make this a lylo situation is just wtf.

though, honestly, that TIP kill doesn't surprise me.

the two people that Jiffy and I have pretty much been dissonant for the majority of the game?

Majiffy has alot of associative tells on Cait, though they are tells I'm not really sure are that strong to begin with. I had Cephrir as townish early on, TBH but I havn't been particularly fond of his play and, IMO is most likely to be scum between the two

Jiffy thinks he's Obv town, and I don't really understand his reasoning :/

I'm unsure of what to make of the fight between Jiffy and Tammy, I think town-tammy is more likely to get that kind of emotion out in comparison to scum-tammy, though the only thing I have in comparison is that open game and she did mange to make me feel bad about stuff

the call out and how it's done is something I'm pretty paranoid about. I don't really like it when people try to reach out to me specifically, especially in hydra, and when the other head is being attacked. It just feels weird

Pedit: Probably yeah, Mala is pretty easy to manipulate emotionally and swaying her to my side probably wouldn't take alot of effort

Not a kill I'd have made. If we were scum you guys would be dead. That is a 100% fact. There is no way in a million years, I bring you guys to lylo. Not a chance.

And stop it with that paranoid of a call out business. If you guys are town you're the only one who has the capability of helping ensure a town win. You actually think it's possible I leave you alive so I can reach out to you.

I hate majiffy's playstyle. I avoid majiffy like the plague. I would have killed you guys because of majiffy. You actually expect me to reach out to someone who if I would have realized was playing wouldn't have signed up to play with in the first place? Someone I would have killed days ago? No, I'm talking to you because I might be able to read you and if you're town then you might be able to talk some sense into your other head.

In post 1108, VioleNt Saxophone wrote: Majiffy has alot of associative tells on Cait, though they are tells I'm not really sure are that strong to begin with. I had Cephrir as townish early on, TBH but I havn't been particularly fond of his play and, IMO is most likely to be scum between the two

There are no associative tells. I caught nacho early. And and hey, you know what, I voted nacho in my first post. Something I would never do as scum. You know why? It's what I look for to scum hunt on people, and I consider that a scrub scum tell, something that I wouldn't do. I caught him early. And then he tried to put me as a possible lynch because I was one of the people who wasn't read as strong town as others. And when he saw that didn't work he tried to cast suspicion on TiP. Like there is no way any rationally functioning person looks at what happened and goes oh associative tells. that's so beyond ridiculous I'm just going to have to think strong drugs are involved.

But none of that matters as this is a lylo situation i'd have never never never put myself in.

And tell majiffy he gets a virtual punch in the face for trying to take away the fact that I caught nacho.

Tammy, this lylo isn't really optimal for anyone here except for maybe Cephrir, but even he would have more motivation to keep TIP alive over us especially considering that TIP was extremely willing to push you guys

Pedit: If I was scum, one of TIP and Bert would still be alive.

I can self-meta all day on why I'm probably town, but it's more probably more efficient to figure out who, between the two of us is correct

Me too.

Like seriously seriously seriously, you guys would be dead and i'd have taken a chance with tip or bert.

TiP was willing to push us? I don't think TiP ever said anything about us. The last thing I remember TiP saying was that one of you or TF were scum.

Didn't he?

TIP didn't even look in my direction all game

Sorry, he said one of TF or SoS were scum.

But the last thing he said was he had a bunch of null reads.

Nope, sorry, he never said he'd push us.

Actually yes he did, he expressed paranoia of you because of dragonball or something

Actually yes he did, he expressed paranoia of you because of dragonball or something

In post 960, TheIrishPope wrote:We lynch SD.
In the case he isn't scum, we lynch Cephrir.
VOTE: SD

Hmm

He said he wouldn't sheep Jiffy because of Dragonball, Vegito was town there

In post 1111, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:Tammy, this lylo isn't really optimal for anyone here except for maybe Cephrir, but even he would have more motivation to keep TIP alive over us especially considering that TIP was extremely willing to push you guys

Where did you get the idea that TiP was extremely willing to push us?

And why do you say you would have left alive Bert? You do realize that he was pretty set on you guys being scum the day he died arent' you?

In post 1118, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:He said he wouldn't sheep Jiffy because of Dragonball, Vegito was town there

idk who vegito is. Did jiffy push on town them and that's why?

I took that to mean that he didn't trust jiffy because he'd been fooled as scum before.

omgs my kitten is so insanely cute i don't know what to do.

In post 932, VioleNt Saxophone wrote:

In post 931, Bert wrote:Just paranoid they might have been merely distancing from Nacho, hence their lack of vote

TBF, I kinda sorta asked Tammy to leave Nacho alone and I think they did have their vote on him, but was giving him time in the chance that they were town. It also served as a means to give Nachocabd time to maybe contribute as well as me as I didn't get a chance to voice my opinions much yesterday

As much as I really really want to believe you guys are scum, this post gives me pause. Instead of inflaming Bert's paranoia, she calmed it. Now I've seen mara's scum game and know she's capable of this, but it gives me pause.

HOWEVER, it is referencing the fact that she tried to argue that Nacho was town when I was pushing him.

Vegito is Jiffy/Nacho Hydra

I think Jiffy was pushing bad reads while Nacho pushed good ones or something like that

Oh Okay then a total misinterpretation of that. Never mind.

Mala thinks you sound really town Mara