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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:26 pm

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I'm a 1-shot watcher. Tried to make myself seem stronger so scum would kill me (effectively vanilla now) over vezok. Thought it might work after catching Rubi.
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:32 pm

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Egg i hope you have a good reason for not watching last night. Also if rubicon was a ninja role blocker how on earth could you have seen him???

I am Cady Heron the miller, in addition to being a miller I also had another power. 1 shot commuter. I used it N1. If vig tried to kill me N1 thats why im still alive.

Looking forward to claims and a better explanation for why egg does not have a result.

P-Edit: Okay cool how did you see a ninja egg.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:37 pm

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VOTE: egg ninjas cannot be seen by watcher's... Looks like marq was right and yeah there probably is a sk and not a vig. And that sk is either reck or neil. Im inclined to think its reck because i he wanted me to claim first. When i already claimed. There would be no reason to suspect I had another ability unless someone tried to kill me N1.Anywho lets see what happens when egg gets killed.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:39 pm

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My interpretation of the role was that the KILL would be ninja, but the roleblock would not.

I asked the mod for clarification overnight and he said he couldn't answer that.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:47 pm

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Hanzo, what Reck said. Rubi probably just couldn't be seen killing.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:56 pm

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Nope Ninja cannot be seen "targetting" anyone. That is what the MS wiki says. I've made up my mind and nothing will change it.

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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:58 pm

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Then the Mod lied to Reck.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:04 pm

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He said he could not answer that. He didnt give him any information. You cant watch ninjas, You cant watch anymore. Your either scum or a VT. Im inclined to believe that you are scum.

Marquis who did you JK last night?
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:05 pm

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In post 1105, Hanzo_5 wrote:Nope Ninja cannot be seen "targetting" anyone. That is what the MS wiki says. I've made up my mind and nothing will change it.

Care to claim Reck?
The wiki is a general set of how things are used. It's not gospel, and mods are free to use what they want how they want.

I believe Aegor may be using atypical modding practices, seeing as how his interpretation of RBvRB was nonstandard. That's why I asked. It also seems odd for scum to be pulling off some weird doublebus on Day 2. Egg claims he saw Rubi visit vezok; that forces scum into a 1v1 scenario... and they did this KNOWING that Rubi was a Ninja and thus Egg would look like a liar?

It makes no sense.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:06 pm

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HEY HANZO TAKE A CHILL PILL AND ANSWER WHY THE FUCK RUBI/EGG WOULD PULL A BUS LIKE THAT WHICH WOULD RESULT IN THEIR DEATH.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:09 pm

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Have I sad that Hanzo looks like scum to me? I still think Hanzo is scum.

Also Reck weren't you just saying yesterday that if Marquis was telling the truth then a Rubicon/Egg scumteam is likely?
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:10 pm

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In post 1102, Hanzo_5 wrote:VOTE: egg ninjas cannot be seen by watcher's... Looks like marq was right and yeah there probably is a sk and not a vig. And that sk is either reck or neil. Im inclined to think its reck because i he wanted me to claim first. When i already claimed. There would be no reason to suspect I had another ability unless someone tried to kill me N1.Anywho lets see what happens when egg gets killed.
This literally makes no sense.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:11 pm

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In post 1110, Candillan wrote:Have I sad that Hanzo looks like scum to me? I still think Hanzo is scum.

Also Reck weren't you just saying yesterday that if Marquis was telling the truth then a Rubicon/Egg scumteam is likely?
That was because we didn't know how the mod did roleblocker resolution.

Mod confirmed both RBs would go off in that scenario, which means Marquis could've jailkept him and Rubicon would've still gone to vezok.

I have to assume the mod is using nonstandard Ninja here because I don't see a universe in which Egg claims he saw a visit from his Ninja Scumbuddy.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:17 pm

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In post 1102, Hanzo_5 wrote:VOTE: egg ninjas cannot be seen by watcher's... Looks like marq was right and yeah there probably is a sk and not a vig. And that sk is either reck or neil. Im inclined to think its reck because i he wanted me to claim first. When i already claimed. There would be no reason to suspect I had another ability unless someone tried to kill me N1.Anywho lets see what happens when egg gets killed.
Elaborating here:

- Either Neil is the SK, or there is both an SK and a vig. Neil has claimed the kill on scum last night, which makes the cop kill from mafia. There's not a third kill. There's also another missing kill from N1, and your "theory" is that the SK tried to kill you... why?

- I had forgotten you had claimed. I copypasted the list and put in some order, but basically I just wanted to put it in some order that involved me claiming after Private, and Private claiming near the end. Why?

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I tracked PrivateI N1 but didn't find out until last night that he went nowhere. This is why I wanted to claim after him -- because if he lied, I'd be able to catch him. But I also didn't think it was likely he was scum, since I saw him go nowhere N1 and I assume all scum have powers to use with the amount of town power.

If you check the Burn Blog, you'll see an anonymous submission by me that was very adamant about how Egg can't be a tracker. I didn't want to outright claim too much and reveal who I was before I got my result, but I wanted to crumb my claim in some way.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:23 pm

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I forgot who has claimed so please fill this in:

1. Bicephalous Bob:
Mafia Neighbor Vote Remover/Adder

2. Candillan: ???
3. Egg: 1-Shot Watcher; Watched Vezok N1
4. Hanzo_5: 1-Shot Miller Commuter; Commuted N1
5. hiplop:
Vanilla Townie

6. Katarina LeBlanc:
1-Shot Governor

7. Lord Mhork: ???
8. Marquis: ?-shot Jailkeeper; targeted Rubicon N1
9. neil1113: 1-Shot Vig Neighbor
10. PrivateI: Bomb
11. Rubicon:
Mafia Ninja 3-Shot Roleblocker

12. vezokpiraka:
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13. xRECKONERx: 1-Shot Delayed Tracker; tracked PrivateI nowhere N1
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:26 pm

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It makes sense to me reck. try google translate or something.

If egg is not mafia than the only person left in my POE is Candilian. I will hammer on candilian but I wil not be moving my vote from egg. I have decided that he is mafia. He cannot see ninjas. He even talked about a ninja roleblocker which makes me think it was an inside knowledge slip. In any case the evidense supports that he is mafia in my mind. If no one else believes this dont vote for him. Its as simple as that. I will not be swayed in my thinking do not waste your time on it.

Hey candi if you are mafia I would save trying to get me lynched until Lylo it seems like its much more optimal at that point in time.


Pedit: Okay i did not see where neil claimed the kill. I will not speculate on third parties until a third mafia is lynched. Im telling you its either egg or candilian at this point.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:29 pm

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Looking at interesting Bob/SmudgerRubicon connections:

- D1, they both jumped on Hanzo immediately after the miller claim
- Bob spent a lot of D1 passively defending the Hanzo wagon while still voting Hanzo
- Both of them painted Mhork in a bad light; Bob's WHY NOT when Candi said he didn't think scum would be loved was awkward.

nvm too bored will do this later, idk that there's a lot to glean from the isos anyway since D2 was all wrapped up in the tripleclaim
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:30 pm

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I think I'd rather lynch Candillan over Egg but I want both Candi & Mhork to fullclaim in their next posts unless they have already.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:31 pm

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I forgot to include my flavor, and I am a bad person, and I apologize.

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Why is there a watcher, Tracker, and a cop? Reck, I'm going to try and look at it again, because I'm not seeing yet where Egg has to be town.

I still don't understand why Marquis is inherently town. Is taking away a scumbuddy's vote for a day not good gameplay?

Neil, was your role a neighbor from the beginning? Why did you not check that earlier?...I do think from this, Reck almost has to be town, just by his play, Egg is maybe town, because of his role, and I am excited to see a claim from the others.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:32 pm

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Well I can tell you it's not me.
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Me being a dayvig is why I don't think Neil can be a vig.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:34 pm

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(Oh Reck that's also why way back when when you voted me I said it was going nowhere. I know I'm a provable role, I'm definitely not going to be lynched.)
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:35 pm

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@Mod V/LA this weekend. ESO BETA TEST! I will be here I will just be posting far less frequent than I have.


Pedit: Nice you can conftown or confscum yourself today Candilian. In your opinion who should we shoot and lynch today?
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:38 pm

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1. My name is Candillan. Please stop misspelling it.
2. Your name has been bouncing around in my head, actually. I haven't liked your play at all.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:38 pm

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"Egg claims he saw Rubi visit vezok; that forces scum into a 1v1 scenario... and they did this KNOWING that Rubi was a Ninja and thus Egg would look like a liar?"

basically this

pedit i already fullclaimed, coach carr 2 shot jk

also

jailkeeper versus roleblocker = town versus scum
tracker+watcher versus ninja = town+town versus scum
neighbors --> 1 town, 1 scum
governor versus loved = town versus scum??????????

it'd certainly fill in the symmetry, as well as give scum a very nice non-extra-night action role to balance out against the town roles we know so far

why IS mhork town, esp. a loved townie to add on to in particular the governor ability?????? brb rereading

pedit2 ehhhhhhhhhhhh.................... still want to lynch pi. bomb doesn't feeeeel real maybe.

pedit3 do you really think scum had both a 3 shot rb and a 2 shot jk. not to mention he claimed doctor, and i claimed jailkeeper (which i didn't need to but ok)

pedit4 LET'S PUT MHORK AT L-0

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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:42 pm

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Doesn't it feel great to have your vote back, Marquis
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