Revolution Mafia (Based on the NBC series) - TOWN WIN

[ZZZX]

My claim is really valid 100% in 3 area's

-Flavor wise even if I know nothing about the theme (as I said before joining the game)
-Ability wise as the abilities are clearly pro town
-My playstyle was y town playstyle and titus and PV should know better

yet you guys want to lynch me?
FFS Lol I can prove my allignment by roleblocking a tracker since scum shouldnt have 2 roleblockers should they?

Is that fine?

[ZZZX]

Its like when you guys believe mahork cus his claim was pro town and he flipped scum. Am I not surprised?

[Titus]

1 and 2 are moot as fakeclaims meet those just as well. Validity is not sound as well.

I will look inyo 3. You don't have the most obvious meta.


For PV, TSO apparently healed no one n1 and you n2.

[ZZZX]

1 and 2 are moot as fakeclaims meet those just as well. Validity is not sound as well.

I will look inyo 3. You don't have the most obvious meta.


For PV, TSO apparently healed no one n1 and you n2.

I dont get why I am scum read. You guys cleaned half the game because of 1-2 yet I am scum because of them? REALLY?

Explain this to me please. The speed people went from obv towning me to scum reading me is insanely clear as scum driven. Since they were like. Yea your claim is logical ABC. That means ZZZX is scum.

Makes me go wtf.

[Titus]

No. I cleared PV because of my own acts and behavior. PV's acts clear PM. They aren't acting in concert.

Scum would not fakeclaim backup doctor until after TSO claimed doctor...but he didn't. Mala is cleared based on her play.

PM has to be town or PV is lying or his team nked.

[Titus]

Tiasty isn't clear but we are going to use him to verify his clearness.

[PeregrineV]

My limited Monday time went to this game, so you guys get a break from me while I catch up on other games.

[ZZZX]

Still titus that doesnt explain that I am scum.

Its like a PoE with no clears and a shitty way of analyzing.

[Titus]

They are all clears...

and it's not shitty. I'm a setup cracker. Prove how PV could be scum without me (as each team likely has only one scum left).

[ZZZX]

They are all clears...

and it's not shitty. I'm a setup cracker. Prove how PV could be scum without me (as each team likely has only one scum left).

I dont know your logic because we dont have any 100% clear but TV(who I inspected)

Also never heard about scum tracker or busing? never heard of ninjas and godfathers?

Your logic is shitty from that moment where you said I am confirmed scum duo to the clears since it proves that your clearing methods are wrong.

[Titus]

LOL. Yeah, I'm town because your logic sucks. No.

Two scum are in Toasty, ZZZX and Spruce.

So Spruce will supposedly commute tonight. So Toasty redirects Spruce to himself. If Spruce is a commuter, nothing will happen.

We lynch ZZZX.

If there's a scum kill, we figure out who lied.

I heal PV so he has a track result or I heal PM so he has a watch result. PV should track Toasty. PM should watch me.


Give an example of how the game isn't cracked after those night actions.

[ZZZX]

LOL. Yeah, I'm town because your logic sucks. No.

Two scum are in Toasty, ZZZX and Spruce.

So Spruce will supposedly commute tonight. So Toasty redirects Spruce to himself. If Spruce is a commuter, nothing will happen.

We lynch ZZZX.

If there's a scum kill, we figure out who lied.

I heal PV so he has a track result or I heal PM so he has a watch result. PV should track Toasty. PM should watch me.


Give an example of how the game isn't cracked after those night actions.

If I am lynched (where I will flip town.) Remind me how shitty your logic was so I can never listen to you 100% chance in any other game I will play in the future.

If I say it is a plan and I am wrong it is differant from your 100% chance. Actually this day I am using my vig. Who I use it on will be a surprise

[Majiffy]

Titus (1): ZZZX

Not voting: Spruce, TurkishVan, PeregrineV, ToastyToast, PMysterious, Titus

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 ends on Saturday, Aug 2 at 10 PM Eastern.

@Majifyy- Does a strongman in your game kill a commuter?

Commuter leaves the gamestate by role definition, so no.

[Majiffy]

Although an interesting thought is if a strongman hits a hider...

[Majiffy]

I'm inclined to say probably yes.

[ZZZX]

-Titus acts as cleared and somehow clears 11 players without using a single fucking inspect. WAW SUPERSCUMHUNTER SHOULD HAVE 100% accuracy in mafia and never loses.

Wander why your logic sucks. You explained how clear 2 players are using BAD logic that is liek they play town and somehow only 3 can be scum. God.

Guys If I survive I am fucking vigging this. I dont care if he is doctor or whatever but using my vig on the doctor is valid if its going to win the game.

ZZZX out.

P-edit: idk about the hider personally. It depends on your desition

[Titus]

My logic is sound. If I am wrong on you, then Toasty and Spruce cannot kill without claiming scum as a collective. Spruce will be immune from NK. PM will know which one of them is a killer (if only one scum is left) if they try to attack me. PV will have his track to eliminate Mala (in case I was wrong on her) and he'll live to tell about it tomorrow unless both scum kill him.

You need to come up with something beyond I suck.

[ZZZX]

Spruce, TurkishVan, PeregrineV, ToastyToast, PMysterious, Titus, ZZZX

Give me reasoning why each is confirmed. Now.

If you are wrong on me they can kill pretty much. and they can fake thier redirects or commutes pretty fucking easily.

Result: Your plan sucks

also I am the single most powerful town role alive and you want to lynch me cus PoE is fun. YEA RIGHT

[Majiffy]

P-edit: idk about the hider personally. It depends on your desition

Is this supposed to say decision or destination?

Either way the hider is still in the gamestate and using another player as a meatshield, so strongman should theoretically go through, just as a regular kill on the hider's target kills the hider.

[ZZZX]

@Majiffy if a town vig and a scum goon remain. Should the goon auto win or the vig do? if its 2v2 ?

also who hits first? Vig or Goon?

[ZZZX]

@Mod Reason why strongman shouldnt kill hider is thatthe strongman will try to hit hider but he wont find him. Logically if you hit the meatshield you kill the person behind him. But no matter how good ur 35Cal sniper is if you cant see them you cant hit them.

And by that I am not refusing the mod's desicion. Just discussing it.

[ZZZX]

From http://wiki.mafiascum.net/?title=Strongman

Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks. It is, however, trumped by roles that prevent the victim from being targeted at all, namely Commuter and Hider.
Strongman is usually X-Shot. It is usually scum-aligned, but has been seen on Town Vigilantes as well (where the overall role is called Juggernaut).

[Titus]

Spruce, TurkishVan, PeregrineV, ToastyToast, PMysterious, Titus, ZZZX

Give me reasoning why each is confirmed. Now.

If you are wrong on me they can kill pretty much. and they can fake thier redirects or commutes pretty fucking easily.

Result: Your plan sucks

also I am the single most powerful town role alive and you want to lynch me cus PoE is fun. YEA RIGHT

Well Spruve isn't confirmed. Show how Spruce can kill tonight. Toasty would redirect Spruce upon himself, thus meaning if Spruce submitted a kill, he'd be dead.

TV is clear because she wouldn't know their would be a doc to support her claim of backup doctor. Plus, you kinda cop cleared her (if you're honest), so I see this as desperate.

PV was attacked by red scum (blue scum killed Mhork) and I healed him. scum!Pv doesn't clear town!PM, he does a weakass track like on Mala to "verify" your claim.

ToastyToast, again, not cleared but can be totally contained.

PM, cleared because blocked by red scum and confirmed by PV. Blue scum only had one member alive so PM cannot be blue scum (as PM couldn't kill Mhork without PV tracking him to the kill).

Titus, because I'm the doctor who healed PV and there's a backup doctor which strongly suggests my claim is true.


I do think one of Spruce/Toasty is scum, but the way it's structured is that if they have any hope of framing Mala they cannot kill tonight.

[Majiffy]

@Majiffy if a town vig and a scum goon remain. Should the goon auto win or the vig do? if its 2v2 ?

also who hits first? Vig or Goon?

If the town is equal or less than any single scumteam's remaining members, the scum team would win. This is standard practice.

From http://wiki.mafiascum.net/?title=Strongman

Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks. It is, however, trumped by roles that prevent the victim from being targeted at all, namely Commuter and Hider.
Strongman is usually X-Shot. It is usually scum-aligned, but has been seen on Town Vigilantes as well (where the overall role is called Juggernaut).

Fairy muff.

[ZZZX]

Spruce, TurkishVan, PeregrineV, ToastyToast, PMysterious, Titus, ZZZX

Give me reasoning why each is confirmed. Now.

If you are wrong on me they can kill pretty much. and they can fake thier redirects or commutes pretty fucking easily.

Result: Your plan sucks

also I am the single most powerful town role alive and you want to lynch me cus PoE is fun. YEA RIGHT

Well Spruve isn't confirmed. Show how Spruce can kill tonight. Toasty would redirect Spruce upon himself, thus meaning if Spruce submitted a kill, he'd be dead.

TV is clear because she wouldn't know their would be a doc to support her claim of backup doctor. Plus, you kinda cop cleared her (if you're honest), so I see this as desperate.

PV was attacked by red scum (blue scum killed Mhork) and I healed him. scum!Pv doesn't clear town!PM, he does a weakass track like on Mala to "verify" your claim.

ToastyToast, again, not cleared but can be totally contained.

PM, cleared because blocked by red scum and confirmed by PV. Blue scum only had one member alive so PM cannot be blue scum (as PM couldn't kill Mhork without PV tracking him to the kill).

Titus, because I'm the doctor who healed PV and there's a backup doctor which strongly suggests my claim is true.


I do think one of Spruce/Toasty is scum, but the way it's structured is that if they have any hope of framing Mala they cannot kill tonight.

if toasty spurse team then toasty can basically not redirect and submit the kill.
PV can be a 3rd party just fine
PM can be thirdparty just fine (and who said there is only 1 blue/red scum left)
Titus can be scum since clearly with 2+ third parties then a scum doctor isnt impossible. And you claimed VT first time. Lynch all Liars.
VT is town unless godfather (and witha flipped investagation immune its unlikely)

And how is it desprate/ I gave you the whole list of players and even in this case noone is 100% confirmed or containable.