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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:29 am
by Nero Cain
I'm here now so why is it important that I wasn't here before?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:30 am
by MortFeld
In post 1095, Human Sequencer wrote:Wobbs isn't a green read. All of my green read comes from Copper. Wobbs looks like a fool to be honest, his misrepping is horrible. This is why I'd need a case.
The copper greenread is mostly because of the effort he put into gamesolving.
He acted consistently within himself, as in he never had a contradiction of motive or otherwise. His opinions logically changed when he found reason to (see post
159) and in his argument with you and TwoFace, he picked his side and stuck with it.
His analysis of scum likely opportunistically jumping on his wagon is very credible, and my read of his argument with you and TF screams TvTT to me.
Posts like
429 and [post]463] just don't come from scum in my eyes, especially the latter which is filled with logically consistent reads that coincide with what he's expressed recently.
Thanks for this assessment. I really don't see Red playing the way you are, especially when you've been at L-2 for such a long time. Earlier I said that I don't see Green!HS as likely, I do think that you've done certain things that logically should not come from town.
Drone, your vote of HS is basically because of this. What do you think of the idea that, judging from HS' more recent posts, they are actually VT and were fumbling with theory with all that PR hunting?
Pedit: it's not important, but it seems like you're saying you won't be able to catch up and post until Monday.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:33 am
by MortFeld
Sorry, I misread your post. That's my bad, looking forward to your contribution.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:35 am
by Nero Cain
Even if I couldn't post till Monday (wich is not what I said anyways) we'd still have 3 days till deadline so I'm not sure what you are getting all up in arms about.
Nothing to see here move along.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:54 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
In post 1017, Toto wrote:
I had a slight town read on copper. I understand why some people read Copper as scum, I think it's his personality. I had a scum read on him a large part of my newbie, but he ended up as town.
And this:
In post 771, Toto wrote: In post 764, DeathByWobbuffet wrote:That was my reason. Make of it what you will. I'm not going to go and make up another reason just to make myself look less scummy. I've already unlynched them after being told that my reasoning was bad (I agree that it wasn't all that solid).
In post 767, DeathByWobbuffet wrote:In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8492984#p8492984]post 766[/url], Toto wrote:Wobbuffet what previous experience you have playing mafia?
I've played a lot of chat mafia on a different site.
This reads very honest to me by the way.
The predecessor of the slot shouldn't have an effect on how you read DBW.
Honesty is NAI here I feel and his response reads like laziness as well which is making me more suspicious by the day. You're treating him like confirmed town here.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:54 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
In post 1020, Naomi-Tan wrote: In post 1011, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:It seems like you have a problem with the TF wagon not going through and/or Mort not being on it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
urgh.. I feel I may be bashing my head into a wall here.. but no I find that they been on every leading wagon bar one (even when some wagons was coexisting in the first two wagons) and there being enough of a connection between TF and mort to call it a possibility that they are red buddies a problem.. I don't mind that TF wagon died. I was one of the many that unvoted the slot the moment the GM said they'd get replaced.
PEDIT:
UNVOTE:
You know what... This is a terrible train and the more I push it the more its clear that Its the wrong direction.. I thought by now I'd get SOME kind of reaction from mort if they was red or TF but there reaction is so muted that I think I'm just on the wrong train of thought. So.. yeah. I expect I'll take a bit of heat for this choice.. but it looked like it matched up close enough.. but there is no way a red would be this cool...
Your push was bad because your case NAI and it was a reaction test as you just admitted. Which means you most likely never believed Mort was scum and I'm now starting to think you felt you needed to do something to prevent your slot from being read null to slightly SR.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:58 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
The HS wagon as someone pointed out earlier has stalled and we have less than a week until deadline. I don't see the game moving with the amount of replacements we have and soon the holidays. I know I'll be v/LA come Thanksgiving.
@Mod:
Can we get an extension? I refuse to have the day end in a no lynch.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:00 am
by MortFeld
Yeah I would normally categorically oppose an extension but we've had 4 players replace out, 1 with chronic inactivity, and 1 who's been V/LA for most of the DP, which adds up to nearly half of the playerbase causing some sort of delay.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:02 am
by Human Sequencer
I'm with Uzi on that. Ending D1 no lynch is just not nice.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:02 am
by keyenpeydee
I lynch the one who has the most votes. No need to worry!
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:03 am
by Naomi-Tan
In post 1105, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Your push was bad because your case NAI and it was a reaction test as you just admitted. Which means you most likely never believed Mort was scum and I'm now starting to think you felt you needed to do something to prevent your slot from being read null to slightly SR.
originally It wasn't meant as a reaction test but it came one..
your second half was correct though.. I felt all the trains was TvT and I was just looking for something to get some movement in more directions when I stumbled upon morts vote pattern. But... in hindsight I'm pretty sure it was just a bad vote.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:05 am
by TwoFace
Wait I don't think that's in your rules. So plurality is in effect?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:06 am
by keyenpeydee
In post 1111, TwoFace wrote:
Wait I don't think that's in your rules. So plurality is in effect?
Sorry for not stating it. I thought it was normal here.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:06 am
by TwoFace
I've actually seen NL work in towns favor. It's rare but happens
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:07 am
by TwoFace
No it's not. I wish more people did it.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:08 am
by Naomi-Tan
Is plurality considered normal game in terms of game meta//Setup?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:09 am
by Human Sequencer
@Key That's fair enough then.
@TwoFace Yeah, but this is not one one of those situations.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:10 am
by TwoFace
It's mod discretion but typically it's supposed to be communicated in the rules.
P.edit - actually it is
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:12 am
by Nero Cain
even with 5 days till deadline I don't think we'd end up in a no lynch but if its plurality then we not need to worry.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:14 am
by MortFeld
@TF - You think no lynch benefits town here? Why?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:14 am
by Human Sequencer
I don't think that's what he was trying to say.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:15 am
by MortFeld
Ok. What he was trying to say is unclear, I guessed.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:24 am
by TwoFace
Well it's a non issue now but if we did NL, today it wouldn't hurt town as much as if we mislynch
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:31 am
by MortFeld
Yeah of course. Isn't that true of every DP?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:32 am
by Human Sequencer
Not lylo.