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In post 965, Porkens wrote:

In post 117, Antihero wrote:

In post 41, Spiffeh wrote:I bet Antihero rolled scum this game

DUEL ME SCRUB

DUEL ANTIHERO

I don't feel like saving Antihero

In post 972, Porkens wrote:You are firm irch town ya?

Let’s be real: if I were scum, it would be much more likely that I would’ve started a duel by this point. That aside, you haven’t explained why you suspect me in any way.

Pedit: Neither works too I guess; lemme finish reading the thread.

In post 986, Porkens wrote:There is no such thing as a free lunch. You are fooling yourself.

I dueld antihero.

Spiffy, i hear your ask.

TINSTAAFL is totally irrelevant here.

In post 1100, Fundamental Theorem wrote:

In post 965, Porkens wrote:

In post 117, Antihero wrote:

In post 41, Spiffeh wrote:I bet Antihero rolled scum this game

DUEL ME SCRUB

DUEL ANTIHERO

Oh hi scum! Please auto-lynch this (i.e.: vote for antihero or neither).

VOTE: Antihero

What? Why?

In post 999, Porkens wrote:I did, and I bet on my ability to convince you that it's preferable to let me eat antihero than losing your goldenboy

If you truly wanted scrap from Antihero so bad, you could’ve at least waited until after I did my duel and used my ability before you fueled. There would probably still be people who hated you for it, but at the very least, you would have a chance of winning this duel.

In post 1104, Prof Fridays wrote:

In post 1100, Fundamental Theorem wrote:

In post 965, Porkens wrote:

In post 117, Antihero wrote:

In post 41, Spiffeh wrote:I bet Antihero rolled scum this game

DUEL ME SCRUB

DUEL ANTIHERO

Oh hi scum! Please auto-lynch this (i.e.: vote for antihero or neither).

VOTE: Antihero

What? Why?

He's just following up on what he said he would do earlier. He claimed he could duel without it ending the day. Letting him do so is theoretically town-positive.

Ah true, Papa Zito, though I would not care for lynching him on policy today.

In post 1045, Spiffeh wrote:The bottom line is that no scum player would random duel today after all the shit Firebringer got for it last Day

While it was an extremely suboptimal move for Porkens to have done this as town, the fact that they keep soft claiming some role needing scrap makes it pretty obvious that they had some PURPOSE for the move as town.

The fact that UnrealSeal is painting scum motivation into this move is pretty ridiculous and sketchy af

I thought scrap abilities were hidden?

In post 1107, Prof Fridays wrote:Ah true, Papa Zito, though I would not care for lynching him on policy today.

Yesterday's was policy but that doesn't seem to have worked so here we are.

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away something very similar to this happened and so I'm willing to play along.

In post 1067, Spiffeh wrote:If people are going to keep voting in favor of killing the obvious town player I'm probably just gonna stop posting and pray that I get night killed

It would be one thing if Porkens did this and Anti was contributing in a way I expect town!him to be contributing, but Anti has done next to nothing and Porkens has basically claimed a power role and again, would DEFINITELY not have dueled in this manner as scum.

Spiffeh, aside from the audacity of the duel, why do you think Porkens is town here?

In post 1076, Prof Fridays wrote:Examining the motivations for dueling seems like it leads you invariably toward a town read on Porkens.

But isn’t that a WIFOM argument?

In post 1088, Spiffeh wrote:LLD why can't it be a town role?

I think it did sound like a 3rd party claim: he said he needed it before someone else got it. That sounds like a 3rd party win condition to me.

In post 1112, Fundamental Theorem wrote:

In post 1088, Spiffeh wrote:LLD why can't it be a town role?

I think it did sound like a 3rd party claim: he said he needed it before someone else got it. That sounds like a 3rd party win condition to me.

(He said there is competition from <redacted>)

In post 1110, Fundamental Theorem wrote:

In post 1067, Spiffeh wrote:If people are going to keep voting in favor of killing the obvious town player I'm probably just gonna stop posting and pray that I get night killed

It would be one thing if Porkens did this and Anti was contributing in a way I expect town!him to be contributing, but Anti has done next to nothing and Porkens has basically claimed a power role and again, would DEFINITELY not have dueled in this manner as scum.

Spiffeh, aside from the audacity of the duel, why do you think Porkens is town here?

(Unless someone gives a good answer to this, I think voting Neither is the way to go because tbqh, I don’t townread Antihero, but I don’t townread Porkens either and think the fact that he fueled to be a bit too WIFOM-y for my tastes.)
VOTE: neither

In post 1114, Fundamental Theorem wrote:

In post 1110, Fundamental Theorem wrote:

In post 1067, Spiffeh wrote:If people are going to keep voting in favor of killing the obvious town player I'm probably just gonna stop posting and pray that I get night killed

It would be one thing if Porkens did this and Anti was contributing in a way I expect town!him to be contributing, but Anti has done next to nothing and Porkens has basically claimed a power role and again, would DEFINITELY not have dueled in this manner as scum.

Spiffeh, aside from the audacity of the duel, why do you think Porkens is town here?

(Unless someone gives a good answer to this, I think voting Neither is the way to go because tbqh, I don’t townread Antihero, but I don’t townread Porkens either and think the fact that he fueled to be a bit too WIFOM-y for my tastes.)
VOTE: neither

NO.

FUCK NO.

HOW MANY TIMES

In post 1111, Fundamental Theorem wrote:

In post 1076, Prof Fridays wrote:Examining the motivations for dueling seems like it leads you invariably toward a town read on Porkens.

But isn’t that a WIFOM argument?

Not a true WIFOM, no (a true WIFOM being 50/50). You could say it's 70/30 WIFOM in favor of town. I mean, many arguments are WIFOM with varying probabilities. In this case we're dealing with more than just two men and two glasses of wine.

OK, i’m townreading Lady Lambdadelta, to be upheld in the instance that this is positively confirmed to not be a scum vs. scum duel —> which i very highly doubt would be the case this early on when thinking about it. just like the last vote, would be extremely risky for scum to duel scum this early i think. the only motive i could foresee is if it gives them a power that seriously advances their wincon.

purely on a gameplay level, porkens does not seem like town to me at this moment —> i think he’s scum. reason is i don’t feel town reaches for the duel this early in the day phase after seeing the result of the last duel, even if they’re relatively inattentive. porkens can’t claim to being inattentive though, given that he was still responding to posts in what was basically the rvs area of this thread (posts 1-150) when he pulled the duel card out, yet he supposedly “knows” he can duel now? and apparently he voted neither dueler to win the last duel. so why is he suddenly wanting to win this duel, but he was against either winning the last duel. like, really?

In post 824, SpyreX wrote:

Official Duel Count

neither (14): Gammagooey, RadiantCowbells, Firebringer, rb, UnrealSeal, Fundamental Theorem, the worst, Skygazer, Gamma Emerald,

Porkens

, Papa Zito, Creature, stungun0404, Brian Skies
Katsuki (4): MariaR, Katsuki, BlueBloodedToffee, Fate
Firebringer (4): Toogeloo, Spiffeh,

Antihero

, Garmr

Not Voting(6): Vecna, Princess Celestia, Lady Lambdadelta, dramonic, neither, Prof Fridays

With 27 alive, it takes 14 to lynch.

NEITHER WINS. Please Hold.

also, antihero comes out looking better at first sight here given fb’s town flip, contingent on porkens true motive for joining the neither wagon.

they were both town how does that make him look better

Ohmyfuckinggod

this duel isnt even by fundamental theorem

ill have to catchup later have to go to work

VOTE: neither

not just because I think I'm a mafia traitor and want blood this time

Might vote neither if we're policying Porkens

In post 1035, Gammagooey wrote:if porkens doesn't face some consequence for his stupid fucking shit then some other douchebag will just fuck us over again tomorrow b/c they think they can get away with it too

a full claim from him is the lightest thing we can possibly ask for

im beginning to think that punishment cant prevent stupidity

HI CREATURE

yeah bit of policy lust there, mostly just lurker vs lurker = win