Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:26 am
If you wanna bully your way through the lynches, you'll have to deal with me first. If you have an actual scumread on Luca, that's fine. Datisi is also pushing there and I've come to terms for her reasoning. I have not done so with yours and have dedicated a larger post as to the why.In post 1102, Alisae wrote:I know I mentioned this earlier
but I was going to go into this with the mentality to dominate (from my perspective, I've been enjoying this considering its been awhile since I've been in situations as town where I felt like I was in a 1v1, and considering I like you, I wanted to have some fun with it and add in some shit talk).
I feel like I've treated you fine compared to Luca
Are you not enjoying the game because of me?
I know in Datisi in particular, none of these posts actually describe what I'm looking for, which is addressing the reason why I find Datisi town and my Datisi read itself.
First off, I feel better that you're having fun. If you weren't, I would have left.In post 1103, Iconeum wrote:If you wanna bully your way through the lynches, you'll have to deal with me first. If you have an actual scumread on Luca, that's fine. Datisi is also pushing there and I've come to terms for her reasoning. I have not done so with yours and have dedicated a larger post as to the why.In post 1102, Alisae wrote:I know I mentioned this earlier
but I was going to go into this with the mentality to dominate (from my perspective, I've been enjoying this considering its been awhile since I've been in situations as town where I felt like I was in a 1v1, and considering I like you, I wanted to have some fun with it and add in some shit talk).
I feel like I've treated you fine compared to Luca
Are you not enjoying the game because of me?
So why are you 'not' treating Luca fine?
I'm having fun this game don't you worry about me
Didn't you say that Ali had more reasons of pushing Luca than I did? How come you're now fine with my view on his posts? Or does this mean it's a sorta agree-to-disagree thing?In post 1103, Iconeum wrote: If you wanna bully your way through the lynches, you'll have to deal with me first. If you have an actual scumread on Luca, that's fine.Datisi is also pushing there and I've come to terms for her reasoning. I have not done so with yours and have dedicated a larger post as to the why.
I feel like I've said this so many times and you likeIn post 1015, Iconeum wrote:You pushed hard against Datisi wagon without bothering to explain why it was town, until you were pushed to do so.
I wanted to put my thoughts in 1 cohesive post.In post 1106, Iconeum wrote:You also don't see him as scum. You vote him, a LOT. Also 'bruuuh'. That was literally the extent of your scumread on him.
Don't read those 10+ pagesIn post 1019, Klick wrote:I also share this sentiment, for what it's worth. Seeing 10+ pages of 'Luca is obvious scum why isn't he lynched yet also I'm just trying to piss him off' has really killed any chance I have of catching up any time soon, considering my current circumstances.In post 973, Tchill13 wrote:(this post isn't intended to cause anyone any harm or be intentionally hurtful)In post 927, Luca Blight wrote:Fuck sake, I remember why I stopped playing this game now.
I almost replaced out when I saw alisae replace in.
I hope you keep playing. Just ignore the tunneling and vomit posting.
A lot of the content in this post is "Ali isn't explaining anything"In post 1032, Iconeum wrote:636 finally is more extensive, but alas made up.
'Luca - His whole ISO sucks. Nothing in there is actually substanial at all. All of his reads come across as making stuff up on the fly (a lot of times when he is talking about a read, he gives himself room for said read to go either way). He's not really taking any risks and is in general playing really safe. I really want to see Luca go after something instead of just do nothing. Because a lot of what his ISO is nothing. And anything that like, remotely looks like analysis is really surface level stuff.
54 is just a gut scummy start mostly because I don't like the fact he has to feel like he has to have a stance first thing.'
Did anyone think Luca was shading/not taking a stance? I sure didn't. Because he was.
After this there is a TON of bullshit posts directed at Luca that contain little more then 'waah waah scum is crying' or worse.
I seriously don't feel like Ali is serious about this case he has on Luca, and it feels like the ketchup was 'steered' onto a Luca scumread from the getgo.
im here if u need meIn post 1112, Klick wrote:Klick
Billy
Datisi
Tchill
Icon
Alisae
Luca
A50
Emperor
Top is town to the point that I'm not interested in lynching anytime soon. Bottom is what's left. Datisi in particular has looked townie in her interaction with Icon - her motives in that exchange clearly seemed to be sorting Icon over anything else in a way that seemed genuine.
Also, thanks Ali. I'll have my own look soon.
I don't think I did. Quote me on that?In post 1107, Datisi wrote:Didn't you say that Ali had more reasons of pushing Luca than I did? How come you're now fine with my view on his posts? Or does this mean it's a sorta agree-to-disagree thing?In post 1103, Iconeum wrote: If you wanna bully your way through the lynches, you'll have to deal with me first. If you have an actual scumread on Luca, that's fine.Datisi is also pushing there and I've come to terms for her reasoning. I have not done so with yours and have dedicated a larger post as to the why.
This is me accepting you can genuinly feel what you are seeing.In post 1068, Iconeum wrote:In post 1066, Datisi wrote:To be honest, going through that post, reading Ali's comments and then reading back to Luca's posts, it's just reminded me why I thought he was scum in the first place. His posts still feel fabricated and manipulative in a way that you "want" to agree with them.I still don't see scum!Ali's motivation here.Ok if that's your actual point of view on Luca that's fine. You also like Ali's progression towards scumreading Luca?
Guess I misunderstood you saying "come to terms". I just felt that mine and Ali's reasons are kinda close, so I didn't get why accept mine but not theirs.In post 1118, Iconeum wrote:This is me accepting you can genuinly feel what you are seeing.In post 1068, Iconeum wrote:In post 1066, Datisi wrote:To be honest, going through that post, reading Ali's comments and then reading back to Luca's posts, it's just reminded me why I thought he was scum in the first place. His posts still feel fabricated and manipulative in a way that you "want" to agree with them.I still don't see scum!Ali's motivation here.Ok if that's your actual point of view on Luca that's fine. You also like Ali's progression towards scumreading Luca?
I seriously doubt I ever mentioned Ali having good or better reasons for voting Luca, I've been pretty adamant about my opinion that Ali's case is based on thin air.
In post 896, Luca Blight wrote:And yet everything I’ve said is consistent and has been backed-up.
I called these posts scumclaims and I see them as scumclaims and I think they hold some value.In post 899, Luca Blight wrote:If you notice, I’ve not had to pause to think amongst this barrage of questioning and accusation, and yet everything I’ve said has been fully supported and consistent with what I’ve said previously. How is this possible? Because I’m being honest with what I’m saying.
I feel like this is a correct way to use this, because Luca is trying to say that he's consistent and he backed his stuff up and because of that he's implying that his play is better then mine.Llamarble wrote:I've noticed in my own (and others' but most of my scumtells are differences I notice between my own scum / town games) play that scum gravitate toward this phrasing more often.
I believe the reason for this is scum feel a greater need to concretely justify themselves to others whereas town know that their own righteousness will clear them eventually.
So scum go for arguments like "Behold the inconsistency or error this player made!" or better yet "they :admitted: to this scummy thing!" because that even claims their target shouldn't disapprove of them.
Sorry if I haven't fully expressed the idea, but I think it's an important one. I guess to summarize, scum want their reasoning to be ironclad and look really good; town want their reasoning to be right.