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In post 207, JacksonVirgo wrote:Glad to see my predecessor was extremely active.
Here comes a slap vote VOTE: Uncrowned

In post 208, JacksonVirgo wrote:I would now keep the votes on Uncrowned to a minimum, until later in the day. Don't bring it to hammer lol

interesting entrance

- Their interactions with datisi (duck) on day two don't read as S/S -

In post 263, JacksonVirgo wrote:I haven't been that active, mainly because I had a lot of stuff happening the past day. But here are my current reads. If I missed anyone, they're null.
---- Town ----
Teacher
JV

---- Null ----
Datis
Uncrowned

---- Scum ----
FormerFish
Marionette

Datisi and Uncrowned both being null on here is weird. But gardenia is missing from it completely which I guess makes her/me null too?

In post 373, JacksonVirgo wrote:Before I start, there is absolutely no order in this list outside of the sections (scum, town, null).

(1): My reads as of right now.
Teacher and FormerFish are a TvS

bugspray | Chibiie

Chibiie seemed to answer questions with actual effort making me lean to town.

(2): Gardenia

- They seemed to be reluctant to vote at all at first, which doesn't inherently mean anything but then teacher stated that they wrote that out as scum.

(1): FormerFish - wanted a lynch wagon on Teacher early on. Then claimed chibiie was scum whether as a joke or otherwise. They're currently a scumlean for me.

(3): Gyro - Seemed to be lurking could be an SvS with FF.

Datisi | Saladman27

- Salad seemed townie and Datisi seems somewhat null currently so I am townleaning that

Marionette

- Voted without a reason, scumlean

Uncrowned

- This one is null to me.

If I missed anyone, let me know.

TLDR;

TOWNLEAN

• bugspray
  
• Gardenia
  
• Datisi

NULL

• Uncrowned

SCUMLEAN

• FF
  
• Gyro
  
• Mari

In post 379, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 378, bugspray wrote:

In post 374, JacksonVirgo wrote:VOTE: FormerFish
Reasoning in my last post

Sort of siding me me and trying to get on my good side when I'm a scummier looking town is a smart move as scum because it would mean that you just NK someone who is super town and then use that rapport in future days for more ML's

Thoughts?

p.s. if JV is maf then I think the tierlist would be a good nit to pick for clues about partner

So you're just assuming I am scum? Okay then

weirdly overly defensive and could point to JV wanting the bugs nk

In post 409, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 408, Uncrowned wrote:Well, you put him at L-2 not L-1, Jackson. And even if someone hammered him without waiting for his defense, it'd be clear they're scum and they'd be next on the chopping block. We established earlier on in the game that we want to be applying pressure on people.

Oh that's true, I didn't think of them practically outting themselves as scum if they vote.
VOTE: FormerFish

need to look at Uncrowned's ISO and look back at this

In post 421, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 420, Datisi wrote:

In post 417, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 415, Datisi wrote:

In post 413, JacksonVirgo wrote:I mean originally that if FF flips scum. All my SvS reads with FF were now with Teacher but I don't think that anymore

Okay, genuinely no idea what this means.

And yes. By default, each page has 25 posts. So posts number 25, 50, 75, 100, 125 etc. are pagetoppers.

Words aren't helpful for me when I am half asleep, apologies

The only way I can make sense of 413 is if you'd meant to write "meant originally that if FF flips Town". Is that right?

OH! Yeah that's what I meant. Since I TvS Teacher and FF. If FF flips town, Teacher is the scum from my pov.

In post 426, JacksonVirgo wrote:I think FF is the scum. I don't believe teacher is, I thought that was what I was saying?

if scum!JV the plan seems pretty blatant at this point. kill bugs and try to get a back to back teacher/FF mislynch/claim. idk maybe it's the wording that bothers me here but it seems like JV is very careful about saying who they want to lynch.

In post 483, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 479, Fuzanglong wrote:JacksonVirgo: Can't tell if they're just a more prepared newbie than I am or if they are more experienced idk don't know and don't have opinions on this person

I've got

some

experience under my belt, on another site though.

it kinda looks like JV has been trying to slide by doing scummy things as a newbie. If they're experienced that just strengthens my thoughts there.

In post 673, JacksonVirgo wrote:Let me reword, heavy defending yourself when no real pressure is even on you

so this is a problem when FF does it but not when uncrowned has been overly defending himself all game?

In post 726, JacksonVirgo wrote:@FF I have no idea what you expected me to find after reading your ISO, whether you put it down as being new or otherwise, you just progressively got cockier and had no real input outside of saying bugspray unintentionally claimed VT and threw shade at my readlist

In post 817, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 793, eth0s wrote:

In post 764, JacksonVirgo wrote:You seem confident you can be confirmed easily, so my thoughts on a scum team would be ethos and fuz.
If you are bluffing then it'd be ethos you

woah woah hold the phone explain this right now please

Okay, so here is my current thoughts. The way FF has been acting to me is calling out a few possibilities.
1. They're scum since they've been pushing on flipped town and myself.
2. They're Town but wanting themselves to seem scummy but not too much to get lynched so that mafia doesn't kill them.
3. They are a confirmable role so they can be aggressive and lure out scumslips as they may have the ability to confirm themself as town easily.

so when did it occur to you that FF was likely a mason? because going from "I reread your ISO and saw nothing important" to this implies you had already considered that and were pushing him as scum regardless to try and force a claim.

In post 857, JacksonVirgo wrote:Ah okay, well it's gonna flip VT lol. I can tell the future!

In post 870, JacksonVirgo wrote:Oh so I haven't been lynched yet?

In post 924, JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait, did I just hammer that?

faking thinking that you're hammered and "VT slipping" then acting like you didn't know you just hammered are two things I do as scum. I just don't understand how you can do both of these things and be town.

238 I"m pretty sure I've already talked about but is overly defensive it seems.

In post 392, Uncrowned wrote:Also, Fish is at L-2. Not a fan of that naked vote.

after starting off by voting someone "because they aren't posting" and then shading a naked post like this it looks kinda opportunistic.

- unc's interactions with JV after they joined the game doesn't really read as S/S -

In post 428, Uncrowned wrote:

In post 426, JacksonVirgo wrote:I think FF is the scum. I don't believe teacher is, I thought that was what I was saying?

Let me try make full sense.

FF is Scum to you. But if he flips town, you think Teacher is scum instead. Is that correct?

JV admitting after this for the first time that they'd be okay with lynching teacher if FF flipped green is weird.

- he's asking a lot of questions and seems productive, although it's not clear what purpose the questions serve -

In post 702, Uncrowned wrote:FF, why did you quick hammer on Gyro though? I thought the normal play was to state intent to hammer in case that person had a claim or at least to get more defense.

I'll be the first to say I didn't like Gyro's play, but I think we could've gotten more out of D1 than what we did.

this is a good post

In post 820, Uncrowned wrote:@eth0s Not sure how you want me to defend myself, I feel like being blunt can only convey so much.

Interested as to why you think I fit the bill for the Bugspray kill, would like to see your logic behind that.

idk if I ever answered this but basically just being a newbie is why I thought that. Although looking at some of the questions you've been asking and the way you've interacted with certain slots makes me believe maybe you're not such a newb either.

In post 886, Uncrowned wrote:Bussing Fuz? I had that slot as a SL since D1, and was planning on pressuring the slot prior to Gyro getting lynched quicker than I thought he would've.

Ethos having them as clear town is weird to me, I want to know why he thinks that because I don't see it at all yet.

I was kinda just messing around. Like their carefreeness actually did strike me as more newbtown than newbscum, but also the slot provided no real info at the time and I was wanting to keep them around for PoE in hopes that there would be some associations to draw.

In post 899, Uncrowned wrote:VOTE: Fuz

Maybe you're passive town, but your playstyle seems opportunistic to me.

that's a really weak reason to vote them and given the lengths he went to interact with JV then just slapping a vote down here doesn't seem natural

In post 909, Uncrowned wrote:I should've analysed more and waited for Fuz to give us something, which is what I want to give her the chance to do now before we rush into votes again like we did D1.

isn't that exactly what you just did though?