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^what billy said

In post 1092, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1091, Karnage wrote:If this really is MYLO, we need to have a contingency plan for who I should shoot in the event we mislynch

I was actually thinking a no lynch may be best here. Then you dont shoot, or you shoot where the doc protects and it only gets a kill if scum target there. And gets like 3 conf townies.

um the last paragraph makes no sense.
The claimed doctor powers is that it only protects vanillas, scum targeting there has no effect???

Also if we no lynch, scum would just kill the 'confirmed town' aka the vig, who can't be protected by the claimed simple doctor

Since SKs aren't in minis, vig = town for sure right???

wait so is the plan that we NL and choose someone to vig

In post 1100, alimdia wrote:^what billy said

In post 1092, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1091, Karnage wrote:If this really is MYLO, we need to have a contingency plan for who I should shoot in the event we mislynch

I was actually thinking a no lynch may be best here. Then you dont shoot, or you shoot where the doc protects and it only gets a kill if scum target there. And gets like 3 conf townies.

um the last paragraph makes no sense.
The claimed doctor powers is that it only protects vanillas, scum targeting there has no effect???

I'm basically treating the doc and vig as confirmed town now. Someone would have cc'd the vig. I dont understand targeting Eth0s like at all, but whatever.

So if both the vig and doc target the same VT, it would protect the VT from the vig's kill. Now obviously the vig can gambit here if he wants. But the doc protects a vanilla (goon or VT) from 1 kill. So if the VT dies, it means one of 3 things. 1) both scum and the vig targeted the same person, 2) the VT claim was a lie and the vig probably hit scum, or 3) the doc claim is a lie and doc is scum. I think the doc being scum is very low probability. So I think this either gets us a dead scum or conf!townie. And if scum choose to shoot there it keeps the doc and vig alive another day.

wouldn't it not conftown someone because if a goon got docced and vigged then they would be saved?
and also if we talk about it in thread can't scum just hit the person we decide to hit and win?

I think what Billy is saying is the Vig and Doctor targeting the same VT can be used as an invest. Only problem is we don't know who scum will kill tonight.

In post 1105, Invisibility wrote:wouldn't it not conftown someone because if a goon got docced and vigged then they would be saved?
and also if we talk about it in thread can't scum just hit the person we decide to hit and win?

That's why we no lynch. Today is Mylo not LYLO.

Who shall we target during the night then?

I disagree on the vig and doc plan on the same person plan.
If I believe all of these claims, scum would have a roleblocker

Finally, no lynching just means the vig is guranteed to be dead and we have 1 less 'confirmed townie' alive tomorrow.

In post 1109, alimdia wrote:I disagree on the vig and doc plan on the same person plan.
If I believe all of these claims, scum would have a roleblocker

This is solid reasoning. +1.

I can't tell if this town is a powerhouse of PRs or not, because on one side of the scale, we have a simple doctor claim, which is already a weaker role, but having a doc enabler makes it even weaker. Not sure if both of them could be telling the truth or not.
Then vanilla cop doesn't do anything really, at most it can catch 1 person lying about their claims, I can't tell if this universal backup is legit or fake.
Full vig is really swingy.
I'm obviously not a full watcher, not sure if I should claim my 'restrictions'? I feel like that would just give scum the ability to get around it.

Also too much setup spec atm, need to get back to scumhunting the old fashioned way, unless you guys are determined to no lynch and lose our only confirmed town

I think Invisibility was already a bit suspect from the day play. I also think the claim is strange. In fact, being a doc enabler seems to be a way to introduce balance if scum gets lynched early we lose our doc. I was gonna check there at night, but I think he may have been honest about the role and just scum aligned. Honestly, town isnt really trying this game. The one guy that was active D2 repped out. So I'm kinda counting on losing, because town isnt being all that cohesive at the moment. I'm good with a lynch on Invisibility unless someone wants to sell me somewhere else.

In post 1113, alimdia wrote:Also too much setup spec atm, need to get back to scumhunting the old fashioned way, unless you guys are determined to no lynch and lose our only confirmed town

It could be a Mafia vig, however.

In post 1115, Jake The Wolfie wrote:

In post 1113, alimdia wrote:Also too much setup spec atm, need to get back to scumhunting the old fashioned way, unless you guys are determined to no lynch and lose our only confirmed town

It could be a Mafia vig, however.

No, it cant. Mafia vigs arent normal.

In post 1107, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1105, Invisibility wrote:wouldn't it not conftown someone because if a goon got docced and vigged then they would be saved?
and also if we talk about it in thread can't scum just hit the person we decide to hit and win?

That's why we no lynch. Today is Mylo not LYLO.

oh yeah

um so

In post 1118, Invisibility wrote:um so

Yeah uh

Ignore all claims except the vig's

Who is scum?

In post 1107, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1105, Invisibility wrote:wouldn't it not conftown someone because if a goon got docced and vigged then they would be saved?
and also if we talk about it in thread can't scum just hit the person we decide to hit and win?

That's why we no lynch. Today is Mylo not LYLO.

How can you be sure its either? do we know how many scum there are?

In post 1121, Karnage wrote:

In post 1107, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1105, Invisibility wrote:wouldn't it not conftown someone because if a goon got docced and vigged then they would be saved?
and also if we talk about it in thread can't scum just hit the person we decide to hit and win?

That's why we no lynch. Today is Mylo not LYLO.

How can you be sure its either? do we know how many scum there are?

No I'm guessing, but I heard that in this size game (13) it's always 3.

In post 1078, alimdia wrote:I'm a watcher with some limitations which I will not reveal at this point.

I have no useful results.

What results do you have? I don't seen any reason not to reveal them even if you don't think they are useful

In a 13 player game normally it's always 3 scum.

Invisibility, Jake The Wolfie, alimdia, Billy Pilgrim, Lil Uzi Vert

Three scum are somewhere within this list and there should be two town on this list.