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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:47 pm
by Looker
In post 1041, Ame wrote:I was vague, but to be clear, there's something scummy he did multiple times in his scum game that he hasn't yet done here. I need to see a town game though and another scum game to see if it is a scum trait or something particular to that game.
Oh good, I was starting to get worried. I like your familiar avi,
and can you hammer implo
?
In post 1047, implosion wrote:Incidentally I'm curious how much we actually should care about heavening town here, from an EV perspective.
What does "EV" stand for?
In post 1062, Elmo TeH AzN wrote: In post 1060, popsofctown wrote:We could heaven Looker, then lynch Amrun, then heaven Ame if both those flips went as expected
See I don't like this call of the lynch at least the call. I mean I'd still wait for the flip.
I just don't wanna be Heaven'd, lol. Is there anything to do up there? Like, is there another thread/PT? Or do I just have to wait until Judgement Day? It sounds boring...oh wait.
I share this playstyle.
In post 1089, implosion wrote:i'm willing to accept that there's a decent chance it is literally strq/amrun/s_s. I'm kind of forced to practice what I preach and call 1077 a town post from pops. If it isn't literally those 3 then i'll probably have to rethink not just a little. But tis life.
I'm still sitting at the spectrum of S {Elmo | Amrun | STRQ | S_S | pops | implo | Ame} T
@MOD: Is there a separate PT for Heaven so we can still, you know,
do
stuff?
- If there's not, I'm liable to get bored and forget about this game before Judgement Day
- Team STRQ: "And yeah... S_S voteparked for over 100 posts EoD… " / Also, Team STRQ: "Not what I'd call a votepark" It's like that Rick James skit from Dave Chappelle
- Democracy is dangerous
- Would it be in poor taste to have a COVID-19-themed game?
p-edits throughout
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:48 pm
by Team STRQ
In post 1096, popsofctown wrote:Does that mean you understand the Ame townlock? Or the town!implo consensus?
And, 1092 and 1094 are kind of the same question in that there's a strong PoE component to scumreading STRQslot
pedit: Ame and pops
I analyzed the towncase on Ame!town yes, I think it's sound enough to not be worth reconsidering unless there's good reason to.
I don't understand why you're asking about the consensus townread on implo? I think that the townlocks on Elmo and Looker are premature, and in that scenario I also don't trust the implo wagon the way it's currently set up.
-Summer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:49 pm
by Ame
In post 1094, Team STRQ wrote:I don't understand the Elmo and Looker townlocks still
can someone explain that for me please?
-Summer
Both you and Tai have ignored my
Looker town case. It's fine if you don't agree with it, but can you actually address the points? Just spouting that you think she's scum isn't going to convince anyone.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:49 pm
by Team STRQ
this shit is exactly why I struggle to see the townlocks on Looker
I've seen him be virtually useless before as town, and I've seen him be super aggressive as town. I've never once seen this... weird, more political-sounding playstyle from him.
where did the meta cases come from exactly?
-Summer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:51 pm
by Team STRQ
In post 1102, Ame wrote: In post 1094, Team STRQ wrote:I don't understand the Elmo and Looker townlocks still
can someone explain that for me please?
-Summer
Both you and Tai have ignored my
Looker town case. It's fine if you don't agree with it, but can you actually address the points? Just spouting that you think she's scum isn't going to convince anyone.
what I'm seeing at a glance is a sync tell, which isn't exactly the strongest point... and a meta tell, which I've seen from him as town.
I'm not convinced, sorry
-Summer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:51 pm
by Team STRQ
it was a lovers game hosted by Amrun or something like that, I have to run like... NOW so I can't go find the game atm
but he was town that game
-Summer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:51 pm
by Ame
ok but actually read it tho
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:57 pm
by Ame
In post 1105, Team STRQ wrote:it was a lovers game hosted by Amrun or something like that, I have to run like... NOW so I can't go find the game atm
would like to know the details of this when you get back
I'm still working on a reads post. I don't want to end the day before then. +Responses from STRQ +Elmo's readsonings.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:04 pm
by Team STRQ
I think what's going on is that there's one active scum slot and two lurker/coasting slots
I'd guess right now its pops with two of looker/elmo/SS looking to town up just enough to win a judgment day, with Amrun and us being the sacrificial hell lambs to get there
I don't see any attempts to get anyone in particular heavened so I think this is the most likely possibility
-Summer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:06 pm
by Team STRQ
It would make sense with how pops maneuvered around wooper at least
And I know from personal experience SS can look townread in a vacuum based on time shift
-Summer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:15 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
In post 1100, Looker wrote:I just don't wanna be Heaven'd, lol. Is there anything to do up there? Like, is there another thread/PT? Or do I just have to wait until Judgement Day? It sounds boring...oh wait.
There's a PT.
I did read the setup.
Summer shots who's your biggest read for a heaven play.
And drop the bs about hydra hate. Give me something to work with.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:17 pm
by popsofctown
Apparently what I get to work with is more hydra dissonance :/
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:18 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
In post 1109, Team STRQ wrote:It would make sense with how pops maneuvered around wooper at least
And I know from personal experience SS can look townread in a vacuum based on time shift
-Summer
Right now this game has no clear cut for heaven on that play.
No one wants to go but we're all playing this game. Right now I waver back and forth on my reads and it's getting close to gut check time.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:27 pm
by Team STRQ
The exact order depends on how much risk you're willing to play with, but the general idea would be to heaven 'active' players and hell 'inactive' players until we get enough flips to be able to tell alignments more definitively
-Summer
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:29 pm
by Team STRQ
Shouldn't even take more than 2ish
The odds of getting a townflip from hell is higher than a scumflip with this strategy, but it pretty effectively narrows down the game if we are smart about who we send, assuming we hit town today
-Summer
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:14 am
by Amrun
I’m sorry for my inactivity here. I have the aforementioned big test on Saturday and I’m fully in a big autoimmune flairup and throwing up everything I eat and all sorts of horrible shit that comes along with it. I haven’t had the energy for mafia. I have like 3 hrs sleep as well. But hoping to catchup before I leave work today.
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:29 am
by popsofctown
EV stands for expected value, an average % chance of winning
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:35 am
by Amrun
In post 1008, Team STRQ wrote:Amrun:
I'm still waiting for a reply to my last post, or at least your grievance with the hydra. Also, what changed from you voting us to
wooper
?
Can you point this out for me? I looked and I’m still not sure what you’re referring to.
As for the rest, I felt like the argument between you and wooper was kind of empty. It felt trumped up, at the time. I ended up thinking wooper was scum, but I was wrong, so I’m definitely left with a healthy dose of suspicion for you.
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:37 am
by Amrun
In post 1013, Team STRQ wrote:VOTE: S_S
fuck it, and I guess
pops
is up there for town too? Yes, it's possible scum constantly speaking with people is a viable strategy to be townblocc'ed, but I really don't see an agenda as
pops
has stuck pretty closely to her own reads and votes that haven't been backed by the playerlist. In a game where 1/3rd of the playerlist was wagoned in Hell1, the perspective of this slot has increasingly become town.
I know 1 of my 3 other heads disagree (
Qrow
from when I last heard) but I don't know if that has stuck.
cOmMuNiCaTiOn
the swords are for either defending townreads I generate or searching to see how far people are willing to go to avoid this head.
-Tai
You think both SS and pops are town?
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:57 am
by Team STRQ
I'm here and catching up.
Week was going to be busy but the convenient part of overworking is that you get sick and then you can stay home.
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:11 am
by Team STRQ
S_S is town
there's debate over pops. i think she's pretty null
i have cast votes before on multiple occasions
i just didn't because i'd hate to hammer if someone is specifically telling me not too without prior discussion
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:11 am
by Team STRQ
i'm around for the rest of the day~ish if you need anything from me
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:29 am
by Amrun
In post 1064, Team STRQ wrote: In post 1059, Elmo TeH AzN wrote: In post 1057, Team STRQ wrote:
I've barely even read the game since sometime in the past phase
what is yours?
-Summer
My vote rests on them.
I don't need you to read. What was your gut saying after Wooper was green?
My limited view of the game says pops is more likely to be scum, otherwise I mostly only had a townread on implo and a somewhat townread on SS.
I kinda townread him currently but I don't know enough about how he plays specifically to be able to tell offhand whether him taking more stances this early in the game is indicative of either alignment, the setup, or the player amount/composition.
Shrug
-Summer
Saw this answer to my question, sorry - different hydra head reads had me confused.
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:33 am
by Ame
Tai or Summer can you provide specifics to your S_S read. There's too many reads being thrown out without any details
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:40 am
by Ame
I have this weird thing where I experience pleasure inside my eyeballs from beautiful imagery similar to the sensation that people feel during sexual stimulation. The artwork from this anime, especially of the protagonist, is some of the most beautiful imagery I've laid eyes upon, and watching it is like a constant eyegasm.