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Frogsterking · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:06 am

It does make sense you would town read the player with similar mannerisms to yourself.

Very close indeed. I have to admit it's a coin flip for me between Lavar and Casey. I feel like both players played the way I would expect them to as scum. Maybe I used my time ineffectively and it would have been better spent building a case on Casey.

I wonder if I would have more insight if the game were played over livechat instead of forum. I'm more sensitive to lylo dynamics there.

I'm curious whether the scum team was high or low communication. I believe Italiano + Casey could coordinate their distancing interactions.

Overall it's just a hair toward Lavar being scum for me.

Frogsterking · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:07 am

In post 1099, LavarManos wrote:
In post 1098, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1096, LavarManos wrote:I don’t know what to say because your reasons seem pretty good. I was townreading Italiano until LYLO where I said I was going to reconsider.
Did you notice the similarities I posted between you and Italiano?
Yeah

Okay cool maybe I'm not crazy then lol

Frogsterking · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:08 am

VOTE: Italiano

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:37 am

Wow, I thought this day would’ve been over. I guess I should unvote myself.

LavarManos · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:13 am

In post 1103, ItalianoVD wrote:Wow, I thought this day would’ve been over. I guess I should unvote myself.

No, I think you have been hammered

ItalianoVD · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:50 am

I know. Was a joke.

Nahdia · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:50 pm

Vote Count 3.02

ItalianoVD (3):

ItalianoVD, LavarManos, Frogsterking

Casey (0):

Frogsterking

LavarManos (0):

Frogsterking

Not Voting (2):

Casey, Fredrick A Campbell,

Frogsterking

,

Frogsterking

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2020-09-12 19:00:00), at which point we will default to no elimination.

With five players alive, it takes

three

to reach majority.

Nahdia · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:51 pm

ItalianoVD has been eliminated. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

Night 3 begins. You may submit any night actions via PM or inside a factional PT if applicable.

Day 4 will begin in (expired on 2020-09-14 20:00:00).

Nahdia · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:01 pm

Frogsterking was killed during Night 1. He was a

Town Tracker

.

Nahdia · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:05 pm

Vote Count 4.00

Not Voting (3):

LavarManos, Casey, Fredrick A Campbell

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2020-09-21 22:05:00), at which point we will default to no elimination.

With three players alive, it takes

two

to reach majority.

LavarManos · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:12 pm

Casey, if you are town, are you okay with losing this game to a rolecop Fredrick who did not perform an action N1?

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:27 pm

I have arrived at a verdict.

LavarManos · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:32 pm

Pretty confident in Casey scum, but it would be bad play not to let her say anything wrt you potentially being scum. That said, I'll probably vote her in around 12 hours unless she suddenly convinces me in a scum Fred world.

LavarManos · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:34 pm

In post 1111, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I have arrived at a verdict.

Can you take me through your thought process?

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:37 pm

In post 1113, LavarManos wrote:
In post 1111, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I have arrived at a verdict.
Can you take me through your thought process?

It's a mess. I didn't bother to try to take notes this time, but I can remember what I did. You sure you still want me to go through it?

LavarManos · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:39 pm

Well...
only if you think I'm scum. If you think Casey is scum, then do as you wish.

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:44 pm

So, I think Casey is town from MagikHorse's interactions with ItalianoVD in which MagikHorse questions ItalianoVD's scumread on shellyc.

I think you are scum for reasons I have forgotten. However, the post previous to this in which you are only interested in my thought process if I think you are scum is another reason for me to think you are scum.

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:47 pm

Oh, another reason that I just remembered is how little you posted in the previous day phase as though you had no ideas to share.

LavarManos · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:48 pm

Consider it from my perspective, I think you are town which means that Casey is scum. This means I win if we eliminate Casey today. If you think she is scum, great. I don't have to do anything. However, if you think I am scum, then I will have to talk you out of that.
That is why town Lavar would say that.
Why do you think MagikHorse wasn't distancing from Italiano? Was there anything in the quotes that you found difficult for two scum to fake?

LavarManos · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:52 pm

In post 1117, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Oh, another reason that I just remembered is how little you posted in the previous day phase as though you had no ideas to share.

I didn't really feel too engaged with the game, and I was somewhat busy.

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:53 pm

In post 1117, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Oh, another reason that I just remembered is how little you posted in the previous day phase as though you had no ideas to share.

Just how lengthy it was.

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:54 pm

EBWOP:

In post 1118, LavarManos wrote:Consider it from my perspective, I think you are town which means that Casey is scum. This means I win if we eliminate Casey today. If you think she is scum, great. I don't have to do anything. However, if you think I am scum, then I will have to talk you out of that.
That is why town Lavar would say that.
Why do you think MagikHorse wasn't distancing from Italiano? Was there anything in the quotes that you found difficult for two scum to fake?

Just how lengthy it was.

LavarManos · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:55 pm

In post 1121, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Just how lengthy it was.

Not a good reason.

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:02 pm

You do realize how difficult it would be for them to fake it for so long, right?

Casey · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:34 pm

In post 1110, LavarManos wrote:Casey, if you are town, are you okay with losing this game to a rolecop Fredrick who did not perform an action N1?

If he legit didn't take an action and just happened to be tracked, combined with all the daytime interactions, and he's still mafia? Then sure. I won't feel bad about losing to that.

In post 1118, LavarManos wrote:Consider it from my perspective, I think you are town which means that Casey is scum. This means I win if we eliminate Casey today. If you think she is scum, great. I don't have to do anything. However, if you think I am scum, then I will have to talk you out of that.
That is why town Lavar would say that.

You could, y'know, build a case of you actually feel that way. Instead you say in the post above that you're only interested in protecting your own butt.

I think the way Lavar is framing things says a lot more than he means to.

To Fred, he takes the position of "If you think I'm scum, I'll have to defend myself."
To me, he asks if I'm okay losing this game as town.

It's like he's trying to get both Fred and I away from him, and onto each other. To him it doesn't matter which, as long as one of us votes the other.

I'll vote shortly after y'all have your last thoughts in.