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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:13 pm

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In post 1097, Noraa wrote:ur point isn't valid. otherwise every time there's a wagon, every single person besides the first one to jump on is sheeping the first one
SHEEPING: "following a sus or wagon with no independent intent"

you added nothing to my case on sceptorus
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:13 pm

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Its a new fucking person the points will be different
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:14 pm

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And I came up with everything I said and most was based on stuff he said
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:14 pm

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VOTE: ShellyC
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:14 pm

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In post 1098, Noraa wrote:cuz I said we should lynch him for not trying to help town or inputting anything useful
Sirius did input by trying to reaction test and sorted me as a townie.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:15 pm

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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:15 pm

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At this point ur just randomly accusing me of sheeping. u really think anyone would sheep u? literally the moment something seems to look a tiny bit like urs, u immediately start Fosing them for not inputting anything and sheeping u or trying to pocket u or whatever shit
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:16 pm

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In post 1000, Mundivore wrote:Some thoughts:

Scum know what column of game we're in. Scum shouldn't want to fake-claim a role that they know is in the game because of exactly this situation: they get counter-claimed and then one for one'd. With that in mind, TFN with no townies dead at night is a very bad fakeclaim. Scum knows which which column we're in. If we're in Column A or Column C, then there's only a one-in-three chance that you can make that claim without someone being able to counterclaim you. In Column A, the Tracker and the Jailkeeper in A2 can both be in the same game as the TFN. The Jailkeeper and the VT in B2 can also both be in the same game as a TFN. Otherwise, the town has at least one PR that can counterclaim you. If you're in Column B, it's actually impossible to avoid a counterclaim—either there's a Doctor (who can't be in the same game as a TFN) or there's a TFN (who can counter).

As dumb as the TFN fakeclaim is, it still makes
no
sense in comparison to a Doctor fake'd counterclaim. The
best realistic case
is that you trade in some scum 1-for-1. This is just really weird no matter who's scum here. (Beyond that, when no people have died, C1 is the only world in which scum can get away with a Doctor fakeclaim without eventually getting 1-for-1'd.)

I'm still leaning on Plus being scum. If shelly is scum, she's literally gone and thrown the game for her scum-mate. Creating this 1-for-1-at-worst scenario is pro-town, and so I choose to believe that shelly being town is most likely. Beyond that, we can't forget that Plus was fishing for PRs when it looked pretty certain he was going down. Shelly did too for some reason?? I'm not sure how to feel about it, but she only did it once while Plus' efforts were sustained. And I'm kind of done joking around here, I'm going to drop my vote of Plus before I go to bed tonight, this mess is getting ridiculous.

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Sirius I can't read you properly at all. My clowndar is reading 100% on you, and that's most of what I've got. I'd say it's like you contribute your scumreads by dartboard, but it's worse—you take votes that seems almost universally attempts at starting bandwagons. Everyone votes shelly early? Vote shelly. People start switching to Plus and you switch to Plus. Now things are heating up between which one to kill, and you spontaneously switch to the member which is neither of them who is considered sus by the most people. I agree that Noraa is fishy as fuck, but your play is frustrating.

We've got a scum kill, if not today then tomorrow.
Bird in the hand.
Don't go running off into the bushes, people.
so you don't actually have reads on anything
you're just looking at everything statistically which i hate
UnaBombaH: I think Im happy you turned up to be the scum, and that you won, because I will use this game as a guideline for whenever I finally land my first scumrole.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:17 pm

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im not randomly accusing you. I'm accusing you of sheeping because you ARE sheeping.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:17 pm

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echovision can I have your readslist at the moment?
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 pm

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In post 1010, shellyc wrote:VOTECOUNT PLEASE im puzzled now
people stop asking for vote counts the mod has a life outside of forum mafia
they'll get to it when they get to it smh
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 pm

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Hm Redados I will be unvoting for now just bc ur seeming townier by the minute. if u had voted me tho, I would have started to think u and sirius were the same.UNVOTE: Redados
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 pm

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yay new title

1107 reading scum on mundivore for using stats is like SR-ing someone for playstyle reasons which doesnt make sense
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 pm

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In post 1107, EchoVision wrote:
In post 1000, Mundivore wrote:Some thoughts:

Scum know what column of game we're in. Scum shouldn't want to fake-claim a role that they know is in the game because of exactly this situation: they get counter-claimed and then one for one'd. With that in mind, TFN with no townies dead at night is a very bad fakeclaim. Scum knows which which column we're in. If we're in Column A or Column C, then there's only a one-in-three chance that you can make that claim without someone being able to counterclaim you. In Column A, the Tracker and the Jailkeeper in A2 can both be in the same game as the TFN. The Jailkeeper and the VT in B2 can also both be in the same game as a TFN. Otherwise, the town has at least one PR that can counterclaim you. If you're in Column B, it's actually impossible to avoid a counterclaim—either there's a Doctor (who can't be in the same game as a TFN) or there's a TFN (who can counter).

As dumb as the TFN fakeclaim is, it still makes
no
sense in comparison to a Doctor fake'd counterclaim. The
best realistic case
is that you trade in some scum 1-for-1. This is just really weird no matter who's scum here. (Beyond that, when no people have died, C1 is the only world in which scum can get away with a Doctor fakeclaim without eventually getting 1-for-1'd.)

I'm still leaning on Plus being scum. If shelly is scum, she's literally gone and thrown the game for her scum-mate. Creating this 1-for-1-at-worst scenario is pro-town, and so I choose to believe that shelly being town is most likely. Beyond that, we can't forget that Plus was fishing for PRs when it looked pretty certain he was going down. Shelly did too for some reason?? I'm not sure how to feel about it, but she only did it once while Plus' efforts were sustained. And I'm kind of done joking around here, I'm going to drop my vote of Plus before I go to bed tonight, this mess is getting ridiculous.

VOTE: PlusJOYED

Sirius I can't read you properly at all. My clowndar is reading 100% on you, and that's most of what I've got. I'd say it's like you contribute your scumreads by dartboard, but it's worse—you take votes that seems almost universally attempts at starting bandwagons. Everyone votes shelly early? Vote shelly. People start switching to Plus and you switch to Plus. Now things are heating up between which one to kill, and you spontaneously switch to the member which is neither of them who is considered sus by the most people. I agree that Noraa is fishy as fuck, but your play is frustrating.

We've got a scum kill, if not today then tomorrow.
Bird in the hand.
Don't go running off into the bushes, people.
so you don't actually have reads on anything
you're just looking at everything statistically which i hate
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 1110, EchoVision wrote:people stop asking for vote counts the mod has a life outside of forum mafia
they'll get to it when they get to it smh
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 1017, Frogsterking wrote: The stats guy in me has to disagree with you shelly, you haven't proven anything, you've only provided evidence for your point of view.
i'm a math ed major
that being said,
fuck statistics
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 1105, shellyc wrote:If you flip me, make sure to get PlusJoy tomorrow
We will absolutely do that!!
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 1115, EchoVision wrote:
In post 1017, Frogsterking wrote: The stats guy in me has to disagree with you shelly, you haven't proven anything, you've only provided evidence for your point of view.
i'm a math ed major
that being said,
fuck statistics
LOL I'm taking ap stats next year ur scaring me
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:20 pm

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In post 1116, Redados wrote:We will absolutely do that!!
Good luck tomorrow.

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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:21 pm

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In post 1117, Noraa wrote:
In post 1115, EchoVision wrote:
In post 1017, Frogsterking wrote: The stats guy in me has to disagree with you shelly, you haven't proven anything, you've only provided evidence for your point of view.
i'm a math ed major
that being said,
fuck statistics
LOL I'm taking ap stats next year ur scaring me
My least favorite class in college was Economic Statistics. But I'm sure that AP Stats will be fine!
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:21 pm

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In post 1115, EchoVision wrote:
In post 1017, Frogsterking wrote: The stats guy in me has to disagree with you shelly, you haven't proven anything, you've only provided evidence for your point of view.
i'm a math ed major
that being said,
fuck statistics
really? I like stats. [flex]I got a minor in math / major in computer science myself [/flex]
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:22 pm

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Bro don't tell me I'm the youngest here irl age and game age? phew must sound like a first grader does to me to y'all :(
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:22 pm

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In post 1115, EchoVision wrote:fuck statistics
stats was bleh

don't love it but didn't despise it
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:23 pm

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In post 1056, Noraa wrote:Echo's quote says pokeballs
yeah that's from a hydra i made YEARS ago with someone named MarioManiac4
we were ChikoritasInAction so yeah we liked pokemon and get it bc balls
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:25 pm

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In post 1123, EchoVision wrote:
In post 1056, Noraa wrote:Echo's quote says pokeballs
yeah that's from a hydra i made YEARS ago with someone named MarioManiac4
we were ChikoritasInAction so yeah we liked pokemon and get it bc balls
good one
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