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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:24 am
by Menalque
lol he hammered
flip infinity tomorrow
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:24 am
by Menalque
^that's literally just a scumclaim folks
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:24 am
by Infinity 324
Would talking to me help?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:25 am
by Infinity 324
Lol that’s E-2
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:25 am
by PenguinPower
UNVOTE:
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:26 am
by Menalque
I mean, say your piece homie, I'll hear you out
I just don't have a lot to ask you and don't think you've been trying to solve
if you wanna try to convince me I'm misreading your ISO then uhh go for it, I'll read what you have to say
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:32 am
by Menalque
also, just look at this:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
look how delicious, how tasty the takes are! how he has scumreads/leans and tries to explain them and to build support for them! where he's actively engaged and has a desire to figure out who the uninformed faction are!
compare and contrast to this game where he's like, making little comments, excusing a lack of reads or only really offering them when prompted, not doing much of anything to build support for flipping them, and is generally just not trying v hard
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:32 am
by Infinity 324
Oh I was just wondering if you had questions for me but ok
I do think my style involves putting a lot of info into the thread, and following my gut as for what to make of it. Which does mean a lot of questions don't lead anywhere right away but
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:33 am
by Infinity 324
I enjoyed haunted village a lot since murdercat was in the game and scum was easier to find, it was the kind of game that was conducive to effort. This game everyone is so good and has meta reasons to read everyone else so it's like what do I do
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:34 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1098, Menalque wrote:as a fairly major corollary: I think there is quite likely a scum in (lil, DGB) and I know I've already mentioned this but want to reiterate -- if there isn't AND if infinity flips scum, I think skitter's scum equity goes through the roof
I'm really having a hard time seeing why scum-skitter would go into turbo murder mode on town-lilith if she is known for being able to read lilith super accurately. As I mentioned earlier I think skitter's scum equity is a lot higher if lilith is scum, though still fairly low.
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:35 am
by Menalque
I mean... the same thing of looking for them and trying to solve slots and then pushing to guillotine those slots? like I don't think this game is necessarily harder on the face value of early-game to mid-game solving, the only reason haunted village was easy to WIN was because the setup is insanely town sided (like cmon JOAT with a vig shot is 2 ascension points, that's a joke)
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:36 am
by TheGoldenParadox
In post 1099, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: DGB ok
I think hoopla is scum, it really isn’t a sheep I’ve been pushing that one for a while? Davesaz is also pretty scummy. Honestly I’m proud of how many scumreads I have, I usually have none on d1
In post 1107, Infinity 324 wrote:Oh I was just wondering if you had questions for me but ok
I do think my style involves putting a lot of info into the thread, and following my gut as for what to make of it. Which does mean a lot of questions don't lead anywhere right away but
In post 1108, Infinity 324 wrote:I enjoyed haunted village a lot since murdercat was in the game and scum was easier to find, it was the kind of game that was conducive to effort. This game everyone is so good and has meta reasons to read everyone else so it's like what do I do
terrible posting
menal you've sold me
VOTE: infinity
like menal's point was good but infinity's response to it was hardscum
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:36 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1109, Something_Smart wrote:I'm really having a hard time seeing why scum-skitter would go into turbo murder mode on town-lilith if she is known for being able to read lilith super accurately. As I mentioned earlier I think skitter's scum equity is a lot higher if lilith is scum, though still fairly low.
And it's not like skitter would have known that lilith would have a very good RL reason to be lurky.
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:37 am
by Menalque
@S_S I think skitt has mostly got increased equity there because she's generally steered things back towards being in lil/DGB and has defused pressure on infinity whenever it's come up which are things I could see her doing with a partner
although now I write it out it does seem less likely, and that she would prob just bus
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:38 am
by Menalque
I guess it's like a BoP-esque thing really, but you're right that maybe she wouldn't so openly link herself to infinity if they were scum together
that said, no-one else has really called this out so maybe she didn't think there was a lot of obvious linkage?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:38 am
by Menalque
it's mostly the incongruence of skitter defending a slot I think is VERY scummy whenever anyone has raised that when I would expect her to be calling the things out that I'm seeing and not defusing pressure there
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:40 am
by TheGoldenParadox
In post 1109, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1098, Menalque wrote:as a fairly major corollary: I think there is quite likely a scum in (lil, DGB) and I know I've already mentioned this but want to reiterate -- if there isn't AND if infinity flips scum, I think skitter's scum equity goes through the roof
I'm really having a hard time seeing why scum-skitter would go into turbo murder mode on town-lilith if she is known for being able to read lilith super accurately. As I mentioned earlier I think skitter's scum equity is a lot higher if lilith is scum, though still fairly low.
agree that skitter's probably town, but does scum-skitter go into turbo murder mode on scumpartner-lillith on d1 especially if everyone knows skitter can read lillith accurately and therefore lillith is likely to be elimmed on that word?
idk, feels like it's more likely that scum-skitter uses that knowledge that she's able to read lillith to eliminate town!lillith
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:41 am
by TheGoldenParadox
In post 1115, Menalque wrote:it's mostly the incongruence of skitter defending a slot I think is VERY scummy whenever anyone has raised that when I would expect her to be calling the things out that I'm seeing and not defusing pressure there
honestly i didn't even consider infinity!scum until their response to your case on them
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:43 am
by Menalque
How would you feel about slapping a vote down there TGP?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:45 am
by Infinity 324
In post 1110, Menalque wrote:I mean... the same thing of looking for them and trying to solve slots and then pushing to guillotine those slots? like I don't think this game is necessarily harder on the face value of early-game to mid-game solving, the only reason haunted village was easy to WIN was because the setup is insanely town sided (like cmon JOAT with a vig shot is 2 ascension points, that's a joke)
Disagree, egotisi was kinda obvious scum and isis was not too difficult to find either. There’s no one on that level in this game I’m pretty sure, everyone seems to be trying pretty hard
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:45 am
by lilith2013
Hi mena!!!!!!!
(good news, rapid test came back negative; bad news, I still have *some* unknown viral infection and have basically been too tired to move. It’s been a fuuuun week)
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:48 am
by Menalque
Hi lil!!!! It is super nice to see you but I do have some concerns that you may be planning to murder me during the night
(Re:IRL I really hope you feel better soon :/) )
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:51 am
by Menalque
@inifnity the fact that you’re describing catching isis as a process of finding “obvscum” suggests to me that you’re a pretty good scumhunter as I think isis is generally strong as scum, and you claiming difficulty here after saying she was “easy” if anything makes me think you’re scummier
Egotisi in that game was p scummy tho, so I’ll give u that
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:51 am
by lilith2013
In post 1023, Hoopla wrote: In post 973, lilith2013 wrote:Why wouldn’t you vote DGB just because she’s doubled up? Why does that preclude her from being scum, unless you’re scumreading Pine and think that scum wouldn’t be doubled together?
it doesn't preclude her from being scum. but it's a useful tiebreaker between close candidates.
Do you have reads on davesaz or DGB apart from their position on my wagon?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:51 am
by TheGoldenParadox
already did
see
1111