Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[Datisi]

Datisi if I just lol!townbin you until like day 4 (if we get that far) tell me what you want from me to help derail my wagon

besides a catch-up and reads which I will provide

i don't like people loltownbinning me and you should like know that or something

i'll let you know how much i want to kill you after i see some reads and/or action from you.

1061 is an inside joke. otherwise that take is like, bland but i don't hate it.

it is not bland for someone who has just replaced in, and if you don't hate it, then what was the point of trying to discredit me?

i consider takes on my posting style bland. not sure what you mean by trying to discredit you? your read there is wrong, but i let you know i don't think you're scum for it, not sure what else you see there.

[Ahsoka]

i consider takes on my posting style bland.

It's good to note your weaknesses.

[innocentvillager]

i consider takes on my posting style bland.

It's good to note your weaknesses.

damnnnnnnnnn daddisi

[innocentvillager]

i don't like people loltownbinning me and you should like know that or something

I didn’t specifically but good to know I guess

you have been loltownbinned!

[Ahsoka]

not sure what you mean by trying to discredit you? your read there is wrong, but i let you know i don't think you're scum for it, not sure what else you see there.

I think it was a poor take from you, who thought I was coming after you, so you tried to ease me with the town read and simultaneously push me as having a bad take.

It's not bad to be wrong, it's bad to stay wrong after logic presents otherwise. Science would never progress if people weren't wrong.

[innocentvillager]

Ahsoka since you’re not gonna reread ever tell me some thoughts on my slot rn? I’m the wagon, you wanna hop on, help derail/find a new CW, or..?

[Datisi]

(1) i don't townread you
(2) i'm not pushing you for "having a bad take"

[Ahsoka]

Ahsoka since you’re not gonna reread ever tell me some thoughts on my slot rn? I’m the wagon, you wanna hop on, help derail/find a new CW, or..?

I haven't majorly disliked much of what you've done, but you seeming to fall to the ground to praise Datisi, spouting them as town in the form of mercy following, was my biggest ping.

I probably will catch up piece by piece, if that's okay with everyone. I will be mostly ISO'ing when I'm looking for answers. I started to form the questions I needed when I first replaced in.

[Ahsoka]

(1) i don't townread you
(2) i'm not pushing you for "having a bad take"

No need to be so defensive, I'm still looking into other slots.

[Datisi]

i'm not being defensive, i'm correcting you?

[Ahsoka]

i'm not being defensive, i'm correcting you?

Needlessly correcting. Just because you didn't say the word town read, you specifically stated "don't think scum", which is okay to infer that you aren't scumreading.

[Ahsoka]

You said bland, I yawn at you trying to push it as not a bad take.

[Datisi]

not scumreading =/= townreading

though for the second one, i have a feeling we're using the word "push" differently. i generally use it only when referring to trying to wagon someone, so i'll stop drawing this discussion out.

[Ahsoka]

Oh snap. The business happened over night.

Sorry you drew scum though. Will catch up later today.

possibility of scum-scum?

Why is Taly talking about ORAM when I replaced him. Also not acknowledging I'm here, but striking up friendly banter with Datisi? Hmm.

I don't like this post, it's okay to talk about prior slots. The mention of Datisi here is interesting. Seems like a forced dynamic.

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As I was ISO'ing, I went a little further into VPB, and they have a moment where they call out Titus/Datisi "who else is scum besides", and they're voting Titus. My biggest thing that stood out, and likely because I had that conversation with Datisi moments ago, that it could be bussing a buddy voting a townie. The Datisi read looks forced, but I don't know if that is how S/S would act anyways, VPB brings them up a lot.

This might be a case for Datisi Town, VPB scum. I'll have to wait until some others come into this game and talks.

[Ahsoka]

not scumreading =/= townreading

though for the second one, i have a feeling we're using the word "push" differently. i generally use it only when referring to trying to wagon someone, so i'll stop drawing this discussion out.

Irrelevant semantics, you're arguing for the sake of arguing when the moment is past, however, you mentioned to stop drawing the discussion out, so that's something that means you understood.

[innocentvillager]

I haven't majorly disliked much of what you've done, but you seeming to fall to the ground to praise Datisi, spouting them as town in the form of mercy following, was my biggest ping.

These just look like observations about what I’ve done, I don’t think you expressed an opinion on my slot Based on these observations/why stuff is scummy

[Ahsoka]

VOTE: PlusJoyed

Guess I don't have to do a massive reread when the scum are just going to claim in thread.

VOTE: plusjoyed

timing of these votes are suspicious. It was right after Datisi pressured Plus.

[Ahsoka]

I haven't majorly disliked much of what you've done, but you seeming to fall to the ground to praise Datisi, spouting them as town in the form of mercy following, was my biggest ping.

These just look like observations about what I’ve done, I don’t think you expressed an opinion on my slot Based on these observations/why stuff is scummy

What else should I have more than observations right now? I'm still looking into learning about this game.

If you want some more expressed opinion, I think there's a chance you are scum. I am catching up, and I just read that Plusjoyed also did the "sheep you, please ill town read you" play, so I didn't like that either.

The VPB and Titus double vote afterwards still is suspicious since it's multiball.

[Ahsoka]

I haven't majorly disliked much of what you've done, but you seeming to fall to the ground to praise Datisi, spouting them as town in the form of mercy following, was my biggest ping.

These just look like observations about what I’ve done, I don’t think you expressed an opinion on my slot Based on these observations/why stuff is scummy

I also specifically said the word "seems" so why are you pushing like it was meant to be anything more than an observation?

[Ahsoka]

Not Seems, I said "seeming", but I trust you knew that's what I meant.

[innocentvillager]

I thought I explicitly asked for your read on my slot but I guess I didn’t explicitly say it on reread so lol

so I said that because it didn’t feel like you answered my question

but sure, what’s your read on me based on those observations

[Ahsoka]

I thought I explicitly asked for your read on my slot but I guess I didn’t explicitly say it on reread so lol

so I said that because it didn’t feel like you answered my question

but sure, what’s your read on me based on those observations

Somewhere in the gray area. I could see it as both, but it really depends on when I can garner better reads on the remaining slots I'm null on and where you fit alongside them.

I have what I need from your slot, I feel, as of right now.

I did not like the bow down, town read, ill sheep attitude you and Plus both had, and found it even worse that you both did it.

[iamausername]

because the resulting plan is terrible. you're suggesting we ignore hunting the more powerful faction until we are "confident" that we can catch the entire team. when is that ever a good town strategy, regardless of multiball? why not try for some post-flip associatives?

i'm not saying we should stop hunting for wolves. just that we shouldn't focus

exclusively

on hunting for wolves.

'this person is more likely to be a wolf' should be a tiebreaker when deciding between two fairly equivalent level scumreads, not the be all and end all. so, for instance, if wagons stay roughly as they are right now when deadline approaches, i would vote Titus over IV, because i think she's more likely to be a wolf out of the two.

but i'd rather that all the people who agree that Murdercat is obviously mafia just voted Murdercat, because he is obviously mafia.

[iamausername]

This is where I shall begin, at the conclusion of the first day.

galaxii (7): VP Baltar, Datisi, ben dover123, Klyne, DeasVail, iamausername, clidd
Klyne (2): Titus, Taly
Titus (1): The Bulge
VP Baltar (1): galaxii
Taly (1): PlusJOYED

Not voting (1): MURDERCAT

First glance, The Bulge, PlusJoyed, and Murdercat are bound to have at least 1 Mafia in them. I doubt both Mafia would be bussing, 1 is probable, which means VP, Datisi, Klyne, DeasVail, Iamusername, Clidd have another one in them.

Titus could be wolfie bark bark.

however wolf is most likely on that galaxii wagon as well.

why are you discounting the possibility that Titus is mafia here?

[Ahsoka]

why would she be mafia here? If she's anything, she's a wolf.