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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:49 pm
by lilith2013
Ugh
have some thoughts but might be best suited for post-game.
I was tinfoiling UT bussing noraa because no one else was super strongly pushing her which a partner would want to if the plan was to bus noraa, but she flipped town so that’s a bit of a moot point. tbh I think we should be looking at people who were townreading noraa because she didn’t seem town-motivated to me at all. For example, Agar called noraa towny for her argument with gamma when they were getting equally emotional and imo the argument should have been NAI for both sides, and as a result of that basically crossed her off his elimination list. What difference were you seeing there that made you think noraa was town but not gamma? (@agar)
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:10 pm
by AGar
In post 1059, notscience wrote:Just checking in to remind everyone that Noraa is town and we should vote out the guy who put us in a four town lolchallenge thanks
Feels like you could've pushed harder on this than "oh let's just yeet any of these four IDGAF"
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Bye noraa.
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In post 1080, Untrod Tripod wrote:his read on what was going on yesterday was better than mine so I think he probably has a better handle on what's going on than I do
the high degree of confidence he had in his read(s) could be because he's scum, but I'm choosing to believe that it's because he has better reads than I do at this time
This feels like an odd turn from yesterday where you felt fairly confident and willing to take a driver's seat. You had one wrong read and you're willing to do a complete 180?
In post 1093, The Bulge wrote:I don't think I'd want to see the iguanas in another challenge. definitely not any time soon.
Por que no?
In post 1100, lilith2013 wrote:For example, Agar called noraa towny for her argument with gamma when they were getting equally emotional and imo the argument should have been NAI for both sides, and as a result of that basically crossed her off his elimination list. What difference were you seeing there that made you think noraa was town but not gamma? (@agar)
I townread noraa based off of tone/motivation. I said nothing about her side of the argument being towny, and
I also already told you exactly what I did find town about her early in the game, none of which had to do with her argument. I thought the argument was dumb and toxic, but I thought the thing that sparked it - GE's whinging over her reaction to a
townread
- was drawing at straws to try and just be saying something about the four up for the yeet. Everything after the initial volley of posts was pretty unindicative of anything, with a slight undertone of "GE is still protesting this way too much," and didn't really color my reads at all.
GE is still scum y'all.
One of UT or Reck has it over on the other. Book it.
Notty's nibbling a lot and picking on post counts and justifying it with "gut". Fucking lol.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:42 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1096, xRECKONERx wrote: In post 1087, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1085, xRECKONERx wrote:honestly ngl i got random scummy vibes from starbuck throughout but i think she was being attacked stupidly by GE which made me see red and tbh idk who to send to challenge
Why does my push on starbuck discredit the vibes you got from her yourself?
BC i felt compelled to defend her from what i viewed as bad attacks
Okay. What did you find scummy from Starbuck?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:48 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 1102, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1096, xRECKONERx wrote: In post 1087, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1085, xRECKONERx wrote:honestly ngl i got random scummy vibes from starbuck throughout but i think she was being attacked stupidly by GE which made me see red and tbh idk who to send to challenge
Why does my push on starbuck discredit the vibes you got from her yourself?
BC i felt compelled to defend her from what i viewed as bad attacks
Okay. What did you find scummy from Starbuck?
Her catchup posts felt a lot like cheering from the sidelines and the way she was all "rah rah Reck makes good points" just *feels* like scum trying to get into my blindspot but it has been quite a hot minute since I've played with her so it could be genuine which is why I haven't really acted on it
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:49 pm
by Untrod Tripod
In post 1101, AGar wrote:This feels like an odd turn from yesterday where you felt fairly confident and willing to take a driver's seat. You had one wrong read and you're willing to do a complete 180?
I mean, I'm 99% sure that at least one of the people loudly yelling that noraa was town are scum, but they were expecting to be able to push me and that doesn't look like a popular motion atm so they're waiting to use it later
that's pretty much the only thing I have right now.
xRECKONERx wrote:Her catchup posts felt a lot like cheering from the sidelines and the way she was all "rah rah Reck makes good points" just *feels* like scum trying to get into my blindspot
same tbh
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:50 pm
by notscience
agar I literally was saying for days it was four town. Several people scum read me for it.
ANd at first I was frustrated I had no time to think. Then i started towmreadimg all of them and got annoyed
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:53 pm
by xRECKONERx
owait fuck is notty scum?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:54 pm
by xRECKONERx
hmmm i do think calling yesterday TvT is actually p scummy
@pooky: why did you snap challenge pls
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:55 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:56 pm
by notscience
I spent most of the day saying it and still believe it was. I was literally on board to pl pooky for that reason.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:57 pm
by xRECKONERx
this isn't an explanation
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:00 pm
by AGar
In post 1105, notscience wrote:agar I literally was saying for days it was four town. Several people scum read me for it.
ANd at first I was frustrated I had no time to think. Then i started towmreadimg all of them and got annoyed
Yes but you decided to not even put any effort into "they're all town but we should yeet Pooky because of this dumb challenge" because... why? Like you voted him and you traded barbs, but you waited until right before the self-hammer to actually appeal to anyone else that we should yeet Pooky.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:02 pm
by notscience
My reads on gamma and Noraa were both meta and you know damn well the chorus would have come in after I tried to do anything with those.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:03 pm
by AGar
I feel like this game is about 50/50 on meta cases. Yeah, you're gonna get shouted down by UT/Reck and myself to a lesser extent, but that feels like a weak as shit reason to not pursue.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:06 pm
by notscience
The best way to explain it is pretend I’m a vegan
I know me telling people to become a vegan because they’re killing animals and I’m so great will get me nowhere
So I don’t
Ninja-
I don’t know Lilith or starbuck
I know you three will shoot it down
Bulge will half listen bc he is used to me but agrees with you three
Cakez? Meh. I haven’t interacted with him much in any capacity
And the rest were directly involved in it all.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1103, xRECKONERx wrote: In post 1102, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1096, xRECKONERx wrote: In post 1087, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 1085, xRECKONERx wrote:honestly ngl i got random scummy vibes from starbuck throughout but i think she was being attacked stupidly by GE which made me see red and tbh idk who to send to challenge
Why does my push on starbuck discredit the vibes you got from her yourself?
BC i felt compelled to defend her from what i viewed as bad attacks
Okay. What did you find scummy from Starbuck?
Her catchup posts felt a lot like cheering from the sidelines and the way she was all "rah rah Reck makes good points" just *feels* like scum trying to get into my blindspot but it has been quite a hot minute since I've played with her so it could be genuine which is why I haven't really acted on it
Okay. I guess that’s a fair point and something I wouldn’t personally latch on to.
Why do you think me criticizing her failure to address VP/Pooky in the time she spent playing was a bad point to make? That’s the part I find more bothersome vs. pushing me vs. Noraa when that wasn’t a “thing”.
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
iirc there was beef in the queue thread
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:17 pm
by AGar
In post 1114, notscience wrote:The best way to explain it is pretend I’m a vegan
I know me telling people to become a vegan because they’re killing animals and I’m so great will get me nowhere
So I don’t
Ninja-
I don’t know Lilith or starbuck
I know you three will shoot it down
Bulge will half listen bc he is used to me but agrees with you three
Cakez? Meh. I haven’t interacted with him much in any capacity
And the rest were directly involved in it all.
So how did you come about on Pooky and VPB likely being town? Since you singled out GE and Noraa were meta reads?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:57 pm
by xRECKONERx
ok agar is town and i dont think im changing my mind the rest of the game we'll see
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:03 am
by SirCakez
In post 1105, notscience wrote:agar I literally was saying for days it was four town. Several people scum read me for it.
ANd at first I was frustrated I had no time to think. Then i started towmreadimg all of them and got annoyed
mmm I don't think so
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:04 am
by SirCakez
everyone's Noraa meta was awful
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:06 am
by notscience
In post 1119, SirCakez wrote: In post 1105, notscience wrote:agar I literally was saying for days it was four town. Several people scum read me for it.
ANd at first I was frustrated I had no time to think. Then i started towmreadimg all of them and got annoyed
mmm I don't think so
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Go on?
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:08 am
by notscience
@Agar- anti town more likely comes from town for Pooky
I liked Baltar agreeing with my analysis while also scumreading me for it. I think it shows healthy paranoia that I’d have if roles were reversed
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:11 am
by SirCakez
In post 1121, notscience wrote: In post 1119, SirCakez wrote: In post 1105, notscience wrote:agar I literally was saying for days it was four town. Several people scum read me for it.
ANd at first I was frustrated I had no time to think. Then i started towmreadimg all of them and got annoyed
mmm I don't think so
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Go on?
the four town argument I think is wrong
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:11 am
by SirCakez
if VP disappears here now that he's off the hot seat it will look pretty bad