Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:03 am
And hello? Why are we elimming? Why are we elimming when there are even number of players? Especially when council isn't even hammered yet?
In post 1075, Lukewarm wrote:There was none of this coming from Yessiree on Day 2. Seems like he let that tvt arguement result in one town miselim, and then tried to turn it into a second one.In post 942, yessiree wrote:It's late for me, so can't type a lot right now. But the gist of it is that your premise for pushing TBone is flawed from the beginning - it started from a misrepresentation of his motivation behind his choice of council actions and you continued down that path. In retrospect I shouldn't have skimmed because I would've caught onto it but I just didn't feel like reading walls at the timeIn post 938, Battle Mage wrote:can you talk me through both points?In post 935, yessiree wrote:I did my homework and re-read Tbone vs BM, especially #710, and I find BM's reasoning for pushing TBone to be disingenuous. The kill last night also reinforces scum!BM imo.
As for the second point, I've already explained above. Killing a council member from outside the council is inconceivable, and since you, Arte, and Enchant were the council last night.
What even is this logic? Tracking me resulted in no kills so why wouldn't council track me again?In post 1076, Lukewarm wrote:He could have safely assumed he was not going to be tracked two days in a row, so a night 2 kill would have been safe for him.
What is this? Can someone help me understand this? Is he implying that mafia shot the doc target, so the tracked person, that took no action shouldn't be cleared????In post 1079, Lukewarm wrote:And this is why TBone was correct that using the Doctor ability was a bad strategy. People are assuming Yess is town because he did not move when he was tracked, but because the doctor was in place, it does not actually clear him at all
Do you not know that you can change your reads based on new info from flips?In post 1091, Lukewarm wrote:I am going to go through and point a few things I noticed about Yessiree, to leave for posterity assuming I am voted off today:
This is one of Yessiree's final posts of Day 2. Fully convinced that T-Bone is the correct vote, no sign of doubt on BM's logic, and even pressuring other people to hammer the voteIn post 877, yessiree wrote:you've been charmed by T-Bone's powerful charisma. Strong players will make you feel awful for trying to eliminate them, this much is given, and this is probably what you're going through nowIn post 838, Enchant wrote:I think killing T-Bone is... Bad decision. {snip}
As for your plan, seems ridiculous at first glance, but I get it somewhat after giving it some thought
And then his entrance into day 3. Immediately trying to to capitalize on the BM v TBone discussion to push a scum-BM narrative.In post 935, yessiree wrote:I did my homework and re-read Tbone vs BM, especially #710, and I find BM's reasoning for pushing TBone to be disingenuous. The kill last night also reinforces scum!BM imo.
But then Raya did not bite on the BM=scum line, and suggested instead that we vote Yes today followed by BM tomorrow. And Yessiree changed his tune, and started suggesting a no voteIn post 984, yessiree wrote:I'm not 100% sure BM is scum, and obviously I know I'm town. So why don't you reconsider this plan of yours for a second.In post 983, Raya36 wrote:Kinda sounds like you want me to be too suspicious/worried to vote you now...In post 979, yessiree wrote:And what if you're wrong on both me and BM? It's 1:5 now, elimming me + night kill makes it 1:3, which will already be MyLo (...MeLo? MILO?)In post 978, Raya36 wrote:Is it just yessiree and that whole T-Bone and BM thing was actually TvT? And if that's wrong then we just go for BM next. I still think by A50 interaction moz is semi-clear. And Art too.
We need a hammer on either of them. What are your thoughts on Raya?In post 1103, Artemiana wrote:Why are we eliminating yesus over Moz slot
Can't believe I missed this one earlier. It's not our fault the guy who's supposed to engage with us today kinda just dipped you know? It would've definitely cleared some stuff up between BM Raya and me, but it never happened. And speaking of Raya, what are you even scumreading me for? This is slothfulIn post 1091, Lukewarm wrote:But then Raya did not bite on the BM=scum line, and suggested instead that we vote Yes today followed by BM tomorrow. And Yessiree changed his tune, and started suggesting a no vote
I am against a no-elim today. Even through we are on an even number, we can go back to an odd number if the mafia no-kills again or if the doctor ability is successful.In post 1100, yessiree wrote:And hello? Why are we elimming? Why are we elimming when there are even number of players? Especially when council isn't even hammered yet?
I think I have explained my logic pretty clearly, no?In post 1105, yessiree wrote:I don't understand why luke is pushing me with this much confidence. Like, if you're town, what if you're wrong? Me flipping green here is gonna implicate you, and 2 mislims is gonna cost the game.
I am saying that the track target cannot be cleared, because there is no way for us to know if the doc ability stopped the mafia kill, or if the mafia choose to no kill. Imo, I find it more likely that the mafia no killed, then the council (a 1 in 8) and the mafia (a 1 in 7) chose the same person. That is just not very likely.In post 1107, yessiree wrote:What is this? Can someone help me understand this? Is he implying that mafia shot the doc target, so the tracked person, that took no action shouldn't be cleared????In post 1079, Lukewarm wrote:And this is why TBone was correct that using the Doctor ability was a bad strategy. People are assuming Yess is town because he did not move when he was tracked, but because the doctor was in place, it does not actually clear him at all
In post 1117, Lukewarm wrote: So I am approaching my analysis under the belief that the mafia no killed night 1, and therefore you being tracked neither clearsnorimplicates you.
I think keeping both you and I in the game is a very bad move for town, and will help scum a lot. if you put a vote on to me, I will self hammer right at the dead line, assuming that enough people don't log on in time for either your wagon or mine to go through before thenIn post 1116, Lukewarm wrote:@Yessiree, please vote for me, so that I can self hammer if I need to!
I think it is because Raya was already more suspicious of Yes then of Moz before I replaced in? And then T3 followed them.In post 1103, Artemiana wrote:Why are we eliminating yesus over Moz slot