Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:28 am
I would never do something this ballsy, so I have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of other people doing it.
The most important thing in a game of mafia is to establish what kind of scum players people would be if these people rolled scum.In post 1100, Dwlee99 wrote:I would never do something this ballsy, so I have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of other people doing it.
A50 as scum would be someone that uses his troll appearance to push agendas for his scumteam, I feel like. Which is why he's still in the back of my mind for scum, but I don't think he's a lynch for today.In post 1103, humaneatingmonkey wrote:What would Almost50 be as scum?
Why not? Getting the towncred of "nailing the scum early" is something one scum would want. And if they were superficial or TMI-y about it, a case could be made that they're likely scum bussing.In post 1104, Dwlee99 wrote:What is being suggested though is that at the beginning of the game, scum!Sean immediately pushed Cyrus, and then Salsa and Cyrus counter bussed him, and the day culminated in Cyrus getting hard bussed by both Sean and Salsa. Calling each of the scum buddies scum to start the game just seems like way more attention than scum should want.
You have to take into account that if boxxy is town here, then these players also took the opportunity to try and push a lynch there when it was offered as an alternative. Scums wouldn't want to necessarily want to lynch Cyrus from the get go, but distancing has become the number 1 thing scums go for, and I've noticed some amount of distancing in a lot of recent scumgames. At that point of the game it's completely uncertain that town actually lims cyrus for day 1.In post 1104, Dwlee99 wrote:What is being suggested though is that at the beginning of the game, scum!Sean immediately pushed Cyrus, and then Salsa and Cyrus counter bussed him, and the day culminated in Cyrus getting hard bussed by both Sean and Salsa. Calling each of the scum buddies scum to start the game just seems like way more attention than scum should want.
In post 1043, Seanzie wrote:I just read through Salsabil's ISO, and came out feeling a lot less confident about my scumread. Early D1, they did a few things that really pinged me, but now looking back, it looks like were thinking critically around the Boxxy wagon, and their pushes on Cyrus look good. Apparently they distance a lot as scum, so I'm going to take their Cyrus interactions with a grain of salt. There was one post that caught my eye that kind of looked like a slip, but given the language barrier, I'm loathe to read into it. If it wasn't a slip, it was actually a pretty reasonable post that seemed to wanted to sort ssbm. Kerset made a good point though that Salsabil seemed to be asking a lot of questions without much followup.
So, I'm moving Salsabil out of my immediate PoE, into my upper PoE.
How can you be so sure that these two players are telling the truth?In post 1110, Bambi Jay wrote:Well I guess I'll make it clear I townread Box and won't vote him (unlike SOME people) today at all. If we actually listen to Nom and Monkey and co, and elim one of our PRs and scum shoot Almost so we lose both our investigatives
we would have gotten a hard counterclaimIn post 1113, Dwlee99 wrote:the scum were informed of the existence of the psychiatrist.
Wdym? I mean if scum were informed of a psychiatrist they could have thought "oh hey let's claim detective cause it'll look like it fits in the setup"In post 1114, humaneatingmonkey wrote:we would have gotten a hard counterclaimIn post 1113, Dwlee99 wrote:the scum were informed of the existence of the psychiatrist.
In post 1050, Seanzie wrote:I read through most people's ISOS to help me sort them, and this is what I came up with:
humaneatingmonkey
Kerset
nomnomnom
Dwlee99
Bambi Jay
MaxTheFox
T3
Salsabil Faria
boxxy
Almost50
Seanzie
In post 1052, Kerset wrote: or one of them is scum and pocketed the other.
In post 1059, humaneatingmonkey wrote: I'm thinking we elim Salsabil now to see alignment, then elim boxxy Day 3 if Salsabil is town, then elim A50 Day 4 if boxxy is scum.
In post 1060, Kerset wrote:Kuyoku suspected sean and died randomlyIn post 1056, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 767, Kerset wrote:
In post 764, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
Has boxxy's result really affected your reads on Seanzie here? Exactly.
no but the NKA did
How
In post 1069, Dwlee99 wrote:What is this with someone's role clearing boxxy?
In post 1072, nomnomnom wrote:Explain?In post 1071, Salsabil Faria wrote:Another thing, if I were scum, cyrus62 wouldn't play like this.
wut? are we reading the same iso?In post 1063, humaneatingmonkey wrote:There are multiple levels to this, so why do you prefer this narrative specifically? Kuyoku also suspected Salsabil and died seemingly randomly.In post 1060, Kerset wrote:Kuyoku suspected sean and died randomly
I think what he means is that scums could be informed that this game has a psychologist, so scum!boxxy claims detective just so it can be believed by the psychologist claim. However I find that unlikely, as informing the scumteam that there's a psychologist basically makes the role way less possible. If everything is true about A50's role, this gives the scumteam two nights to generate innos on themselves. That does seem to make no sense in terms of setup design.In post 1114, humaneatingmonkey wrote:we would have gotten a hard counterclaimIn post 1113, Dwlee99 wrote:the scum were informed of the existence of the psychiatrist.
It means that sean is not cleared thanks for being the first on cyrus wagonIn post 1064, humaneatingmonkey wrote:What does this meanIn post 1062, Kerset wrote:No one in scum team would expect that the first push in game is the one which will deliver elimination. It is reading game backwards.
Agreed: I think boxxy and a50 are both town.nomnomnom wrote:However I find that unlikely, as informing the scumteam that there's a psychologist basically makes the role way less possible.In post 1114, humaneatingmonkey wrote:we would have gotten a hard counterclaimIn post 1113, Dwlee99 wrote:the scum were informed of the existence of the psychiatrist.