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In post 1096, Towelie wrote:

In post 1090, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: kyouko
What even is this rn

gamma, what exactly are you seeing here?

-b

Effort compared to towngames feels very muted

In post 929, Towelie wrote:Mostly just trying to elicit some engagement, and I thought you might have some insight about how she approaches town vs scum.

In addition I was kinda hoping lilith could be a backdoor into sorting that slot by someone with experience there after my colossal failure to get it right in MELO

-b

@bork does notsci have an opinion on me? I thought he had a decent rate of reading me in the past few games

- lilith

In post 1100, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1096, Towelie wrote:

In post 1090, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: kyouko
What even is this rn

gamma, what exactly are you seeing here?

-b

Effort compared to towngames feels very muted

Not every one of my towngames is going to be an Owner's Market Blitz.

In post 1074, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I think bears also flip red,

but I think Critter can escape certain doom easier than they can, so long as we remember it's Pooky and Noraa we're dealing with. Not run-of-the-mill scum.

don't really like this considering M&M had i think 3 votes at this point when you hopped on critter as (i believe) the first vote, unless you have a difference in confidence levels here, which i don't get from this post. I'm not sure what the underlined part means, esp since the qualifier "M&M are capable scum players" doesn't seem to support the assertion you're making that critter has an easier time potentially wiggling out of this

-b

In post 1101, Venus Fly Trap wrote:@bork does notsci have an opinion on me? I thought he had a decent rate of reading me in the past few games

Paraphrasing: "not impressed at this time but i know she's been sick"; we know you were AWOL sitewide during that time too.

-b

In post 1101, Venus Fly Trap wrote:I thought he had a decent rate of reading me in the past few games

I thought the same about skitter and me but here we are in whatever's going on w/ her right now

-b

In post 967, Cabd wrote:

Earlier page tops have been converted to proper vote counts. No prods as you are all very active busy bees!

Did you put your Samus messages backwards on purpose?

In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13084439#p13084439]post 1080[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:If there are any questions you are dying to ask or whatever just @us.

do you, in fact, have my back?

just really not used to seeing an utter nothingburger from you d1

367 gave me early hope since it seemed like you might be engaged or at least reading -- how did you get those reads and have they changed since then?

-b

In post 1102, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:

In post 1100, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1096, Towelie wrote:

In post 1090, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: kyouko
What even is this rn

gamma, what exactly are you seeing here?

-b

Effort compared to towngames feels very muted

Not every one of my towngames is going to be an Owner's Market Blitz.

You’re barely generating useful content tho

The same can be said of most of the playerlist imo. As for why I am not though, I've read through only once since replacing in, then it was the weekend, where I am known to be less active, and on top of that, I'm not feeling motivated to look away from Critter and Wisdom because they're both annoying me right now.

I feel like the game probably makes the most sense if they're both town and scum are lurking, but Critter is kind of sucking my enjoyment out of the game right now.

I tried to join before this filled because I really like Mountain Dew, and thought it would be a fun theme, but it filled before I could /in. Now I'm replaced in and I'm being tunneled for talking about mountain dew. It's demoralizing. I'm probably going to try to ignore critter because he's going to die for softing invest anyways, and if he doesnt die he can give results later.

I think by engaging with Wisdom and Critter I give them things to talk about. If I disengage they can provide content on other slots. If either falls off probably they were just stalling as scum. Will reread in the next couple.days.

Nobody is tunneling you for talking about mountain dew but sure, every scum flails when they feel they are attacked for the wrong reasons

In post 1109, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:The same can be said of most of the playerlist imo. As for why I am not though, I've read through only once since replacing in, then it was the weekend, where I am known to be less active, and on top of that, I'm not feeling motivated to look away from Critter and Wisdom because they're both annoying me right now.

I feel like the game probably makes the most sense if they're both town and scum are lurking, but Critter is kind of sucking my enjoyment out of the game right now.

I tried to join before this filled because I really like Mountain Dew, and thought it would be a fun theme, but it filled before I could /in. Now I'm replaced in and I'm being tunneled for talking about mountain dew. It's demoralizing. I'm probably going to try to ignore critter because he's going to die for softing invest anyways, and if he doesnt die he can give results later.

I think by engaging with Wisdom and Critter I give them things to talk about. If I disengage they can provide content on other slots. If either falls off probably they were just stalling as scum. Will reread in the next couple.days.

Interesting. You think I softed invest lmao lmao

No Townie says that ever hahahahaha

Not an invest anyway but still

Get rekt.

You also realize 90% of the push on you is Wisdom yeah?
Only reason you were brought up again was my posts were confusing.

I was more than happy to just stay the confusing idiot of the game.
But noooo someone had to go poke at something I didn’t want poked.

Please die for trying to out a supposed invest. Not one but this is a death sentence

VOTE: Kyo double checking my vote is here

In post 1109, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:The same can be said of most of the playerlist imo. As for why I am not though, I've read through only once since replacing in, then it was the weekend, where I am known to be less active, and on top of that, I'm not feeling motivated to look away from Critter and Wisdom because they're both annoying me right now.

I feel like the game probably makes the most sense if they're both town and scum are lurking, but Critter is kind of sucking my enjoyment out of the game right now.

I tried to join before this filled because I really like Mountain Dew, and thought it would be a fun theme, but it filled before I could /in. Now I'm replaced in and I'm being tunneled for talking about mountain dew. It's demoralizing.

I'm probably going to try to ignore critter because he's going to die for softing invest anyways, and if he doesnt die he can give results later.

I think by engaging with Wisdom and Critter I give them things to talk about. If I disengage they can provide content on other slots. If either falls off probably they were just stalling as scum. Will reread in the next couple.days.

Town never does the bold. Like ever.

In post 1109, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I'm not feeling motivated to look away from Critter and Wisdom because they're both annoying me right now.

In my experience, this is a really easy way for scum me to appear engaged while not really contributing
I would like if you could focus on other slots, you don't have to engage everyone, just some people

In post 1097, Venus Fly Trap wrote:@MUSH

In post 897, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:

In post 882, Venus Fly Trap wrote:@MUSH, can you talk to me about your read on SS?

- lilith

Thoughts are insufficient data. I literally woke up, ran down the stairs and went to the bank so I need some time to get my bearings. Best recollection is I don’t have enough to go on, though, which makes me want to squish it.

I’ll ISO and get my brain spinning while I eat.

"Insufficient data" seems different to me than what you had said before about SS:

In post 245, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Welp.

Calling Dunn flipping red. Regardless of flip, I also like the bears for scum right now.

Eyes on Critter, Something_Smart, StrangeMatter.

In post 166, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:

In post 161, Critter wrote:

In post 159, Gamma Emerald wrote:Basically I can tell he’s being sarcastic

Oh no. I think you misunderstand me. I am saying he’s scum because it’s sarcastic. I read it like Valley Girl tone of “Guess you’re the only person who reads matter”. It’s a put down to M while subtly agreeing that something I did was scummy.

I'd say deniably, not subtly, at the very most. I read it more like buddying you. Either way, because Something_Smart jumped too early (whoopsie doodle!), I got what I wanted out of this -- reads gathered include you town, Something_Smart leaning scum, Gamma leaning town, StrangeMatter hovering (which indicates scum for me if it goes on too long).

VOTE: StrangeMatter

But I don't want to wait for that to resolve. My read of StrangeMatter is that I'll be here awhile if I want to wait for it to happen. So I'm gonna shove here and see what gives, instead.


PEDIT: Well, looks like you got away from the "subtly" language at least.

has something changed that made you back off from your initial read?

- lilith

Not in the game, but yeah, something has changed. Yesterday I ran out of cigarettes and I've been downhill mentally ever since. That's legit what changed -- I don't remember half of my reads or reasons for those reads and I have awful brain fog now. Sorry, I know this looks bad for me but it's what I got. I have a reread I said I'd complete yesterday before meds bit me, so I'll see if I can explain myself in the reread, but I wouldn't count on it.... all my plots and schemes are gone, poof.

In post 1103, Towelie wrote:

In post 1074, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I think bears also flip red,

but I think Critter can escape certain doom easier than they can, so long as we remember it's Pooky and Noraa we're dealing with. Not run-of-the-mill scum.

don't really like this considering M&M had i think 3 votes at this point when you hopped on critter as (i believe) the first vote, unless you have a difference in confidence levels here, which i don't get from this post. I'm not sure what the underlined part means, esp since the qualifier "M&M are capable scum players" doesn't seem to support the assertion you're making that critter has an easier time potentially wiggling out of this

-b

Never mind this, Critter got the promised effect, so I'm gonna call it on this. ssbm sucks now and I don't like it.

For future reference, I think Critter is as manipulative and cunning as either of the bear-pair, and has the benefit of less familiarity with the player list (thus getting benefit of the doubt). If Critter's scum, I think Critter would be able to get out of a sticky position much easier than the Norky Bears as scum could against people who already doubt them, primarily for the lack of familiarity.

I actually haven’t yet. I am manipulative as scum and I am not but I don’t know you? *confused eyeball stare*

Y'all post a lot on my one busy evening a week.

Reading up now.

In post 944, Critter wrote:I think you can do a reads wall/list and keep the nuance. Please.

Okay, I guess...
ssbm_Kyouko
Critter, MUSHSHAGANA
Everyone else
Wisdom

If that isn't satisfying, well, I told you so.

In post 945, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I'm unwilling to make any firm commitments there, but I like calling it town play for now.

Why's that?

In post 957, Venus Fly Trap wrote:his recent scumgame in radio buzz, wherein he coasted for ~2 dayphases on saying a lot of ineffectual nothings and never really sat down and provided reads or tried to solve despite promising to do so.

This feels inaccurate :/ I don't believe I made empty promises there? I think it was more that people kept asking me for more and I was just flat-out refusing to give it. And then I started making mechanical arguments and they went right over everyone's head.

In post 1118, Critter wrote:I actually haven’t yet. I am manipulative as scum and I am not but I don’t know you? *confused eyeball stare*

I think you're manipulative as either alignment, Critter. I think you try and keep it on the downlow, but you're still manipulative. That makes you dangerous as scum. And no, we don't know each other, this is just a judgment call based on what I see of your play here. I don't use meta for players I haven't played with, and I don't even like using it then. It's a crutch where my normal ability to play fails, not a primary tool.

Also, I'm glad my worse-than-usual memory kept my vote on you if you didn't get the promised effect from ssbm, since I distrust you even more now. (Also I don't know what the hell an invest is and MS wiki isn't helpful with it.)

Invest = investigative role.