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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:36 am
by mc esther
i had an earlier version of that post that suggested draw or even town win from the grave as alternatives, idk how i cut that part out
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:48 am
by DArby
In post 1097, Pavowski wrote: In post 1096, mc esther wrote:the no-kill was explained here. t3 was obviously trying a misguided solo, so i told him exactly why he couldnt do that. he did it anyway. ngl im a little mad lol, but i misplayed the previous day so i probably shouldnt be.
In post 1044, mc esther wrote:@t3
i wish we could just do this the easy "you shoot darby i'll shoot pav" way but you made it pretty clear last night that youre not interested in co-operation lol. i'll no-kill, you shoot whichever townie want, and tomorrow we can either eliminate the remaining townie together for the jointwin. or if you really want, you can vote me tomorrow and gamble on the remaining townie kingmaking you (but i dont really get why you'd do this, the role pm says the jointwin is a win).
Not gonna lie, I was too gobsmacked the game was still alive to go back and find that post, lol
I’m halfway surprised there was a town win anyway because I missed all of this too lol.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:49 am
by DArby
In post 1099, mc esther wrote:im not sure if mafia should be allowed to joint. both because i think they could pretty easily trivialize the game with long-term jointwin plans, but also because im not a fan of wincons that dont necessarily match how the players feel about them (like, some players view solo as a "greater" victory while others are more "role pm says win, a win is a win").
I agree with this. Take out joint win but I’d prefer there be flavor.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:52 am
by DArby
Anyway this’ll be my last game for a bit in my short time of the site. I’ve been having serious trouble focusing on anything in general never mind something of this caliber. I really enjoy these games so I hope to see all of you at some point in the future when brain machine isn’t broke lol.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:58 am
by Bingle
In post 1096, mc esther wrote:the no-kill was explained here. t3 was obviously trying a misguided solo, so i told him exactly why he couldnt do that. he did it anyway. ngl im a little mad lol, but i misplayed the previous day so i probably shouldnt be.
Yeah, committing to the joint win early was a hard mistake because you can’t guess how the other party reacts reliably but T3 legitimately game threw. If you had decided to screw him over, your choice was to shoot him, not shoot the other town.
If T3 was worried you were going to screw him the solution was to no kill to test.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:00 pm
by Bingle
In post 1099, mc esther wrote:because im not a fan of wincons that dont necessarily match how the players feel about them (like, some players view solo as a "greater" victory while others are more "role pm says win, a win is a win").
Feature, not a flaw, imo. Also to trivialize the setup you need a game state of 4v2v2 without a doc.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:19 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 1094, GuiltyLion wrote: In post 1090, Not_Mafia wrote:Thoughts on the set-up? There a lot of little things that could be handled in different ways in this set-up so looking for people's thoughts
Any thoughts on taking out the kill flavors? I'm not sure which I prefer, but I do feel it gives a lot of information and the game might be more difficult/interesting without it
Yeah I could definitely try running it without them, but in a wifom game I wanted as much information out there as possible and town get very little information compared to scum without them
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:12 pm
by Pavowski
In post 1103, DArby wrote:Anyway this’ll be my last game for a bit in my short time of the site. I’ve been having serious trouble focusing on anything in general never mind something of this caliber. I really enjoy these games so I hope to see all of you at some point in the future when brain machine isn’t broke lol.
Take it easy D!
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:25 pm
by Roden
Wait what? We won!? Holy shit lol. GG, I played awful but still had fun.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:49 pm
by Galron
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:51 pm
by Galron
In post 1103, DArby wrote:Anyway this’ll be my last game for a bit in my short time of the site. I’ve been having serious trouble focusing on anything in general never mind something of this caliber. I really enjoy these games so I hope to see all of you at some point in the future when brain machine isn’t broke lol.
When you start dreaming about games, you'll be back.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:52 pm
by Galron
gg
Thanks for the game, N_M!
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:07 pm
by T3
IM SO CONFUSED
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:07 pm
by T3
I wasnt trying to solo
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:10 pm
by T3
wtf was my thought process in killing esther??????d
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:12 pm
by T3
oh my GOD
i thought she was forced to kill in the night for some reason so i decided that if esther shot me i wouldn't let her win i completely missed that she was going to nkill AHHHHH
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:20 pm
by Pavowski
In post 1115, T3 wrote:oh my GOD
i thought she was forced to kill in the night for some reason so i decided that if esther shot me i wouldn't let her win i completely missed that she was going to nkill AHHHHH
This is actually not a terrible assumption, esp given that the doctor is explicitly described as compulsive
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:34 pm
by mc esther
In post 1115, T3 wrote:oh my GOD
i thought she was forced to kill in the night for some reason so i decided that if esther shot me i wouldn't let her win i completely missed that she was going to nkill AHHHHH
ahahaha it's okay i hard bussed looker the previous day solely because i misread my role pm
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:37 pm
by mc esther
In post 1104, Bingle wrote:Yeah, committing to the joint win early was a hard mistake because you can’t guess how the other party reacts
yeah, for some reason i decided that 1:1:2 was a win. i spent pretty much the entire game miscounting players and fundamentally misunderstanding the game state, definitely not great play on my end.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:46 pm
by Pavowski
In post 1118, mc esther wrote: In post 1104, Bingle wrote:Yeah, committing to the joint win early was a hard mistake because you can’t guess how the other party reacts
yeah, for some reason i decided that 1:1:2 was a win. i spent pretty much the entire game miscounting players and fundamentally misunderstanding the game state, definitely not great play on my end.
I am not mad at you or t3 for the way it played out
I just lost a monster of a game and I will take this win however it comes
We're not gonna talk about how deep I was in MC's pocket though, nope not at all
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:17 pm
by Auro
LOL I love this setup.
It was a pleasure playing with all of you. Hope to see you guys around in future games!
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:32 pm
by Bingle
Auro I immediately to mod a jester game.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:34 pm
by Bingle
Inned. Damn autocorrect.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:42 pm
by Bingle
Disagree. I think you played an amazing game and wish we’d been scum together when I wasn’t burned out on mafia. Making little mech mistakes like you did is just something that happens.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:28 pm
by mc esther
hehe thanks;; hopefully if i stick around a few years and your hiatus isnt too long, we can roll buddies again