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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:44 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Then why don't you do it.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:44 am
by Ircher
Can you talk about that read some? I didn't see much about NorwegianBoy in your ISO.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:46 am
by NorwegianboyEE
You scaaared? :lol:

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:55 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1101, Ircher wrote:Can you talk about that read some? I didn't see much about NorwegianBoy in your ISO.
Uh yeah, I don't townread him, and his play toward Pooky's been pretty weird (and consistent with scum who had someone pocketed who then became un-pocketed) and Pooky thinks he's scum.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:56 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1100, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Then why don't you do it.
In post 1082, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1079, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you still not gonna vote today.
I might, but I'm even more undecided now than I was before, and I definitely don't want to rush the end of the day now.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:59 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1103, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1101, Ircher wrote:Can you talk about that read some? I didn't see much about NorwegianBoy in your ISO.
Uh yeah, I don't townread him, and his play toward Pooky's been pretty weird (and consistent with scum who had someone pocketed who then became un-pocketed) and Pooky thinks he's scum.
Pooky pocketed me. It's the other way around.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:05 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I think it also makes a lot more sense for Tracer to threaten me when he was no longer E-1 and i wasn't voting him.
When Tracer no longer was in danger of me being the one to place the game changing vote to kill him he realized he no longer had any need to avoid antagonizing me and so he changed his tone completely.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:06 am
by NorwegianboyEE
The timing is crucial here.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:08 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Also the whole idea that i was scum would start going into a 1v1 against him just because he voiced paranoia is ridiculous. I view Pooky as an much stronger player than me so i have no doubts he would be able to win against me in a 1v1.
In fact i'm kinda coming to terms with the fact that i might even lose it today. But that's just how it goes, i should have hammered earlier and i can blame myself for that.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:12 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I already was in a situation where i as town had to argue against scum!Pooky and Gamma Emerald hammered me instead of Pooky. That was an extremely humiliating and humbling defeat and there is no way i'd forget something like that and try to go directly against Pooky if it can be avoided. That's why i as scum would have hammered Pooky much earlier if i was of an informed allignment. The fact that an world where i am scum would inherently imply an world where i make choices that lead up to an 1v1 with Pooky is one that would never happen because that is the one thing i would try to avoid.
However it is entirely possible to end up in a world where i am town and scum!Pooky leads the gamestate into such a way that this ends up becoming the case.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:15 am
by Tracer Bullet
you hammered yourself gamma didnt hammer you

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:15 am
by NorwegianboyEE
No, Gamma voted me.
I just did it for him because he was gonna spend 5 days to come to the same conclusion.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:17 am
by Tracer Bullet
gamma never voted you

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:18 am
by Tracer Bullet
first time ive ever seen a town player self in elo

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:18 am
by NorwegianboyEE
He said he was gonna vote me and was intending to vote me.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:19 am
by Tracer Bullet
the idea that i decide to read flip on someone ive pocketed is kind of idiotic ngl

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:21 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 1115, Tracer Bullet wrote:the idea that i decide to read flip on someone ive pocketed is kind of idiotic ngl
Well that's what you did.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:21 am
by Tracer Bullet
whats my scum motivation again

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:25 am
by Tracer Bullet
im barely hanging on to life

ircher is one vote short of forcing my elim

and i read flip on my most vocal defender who is widely townread

to do what

express ticket to suicideville?

lol

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:26 am
by Tracer Bullet
if you are town and actually believe this shit you need some serious help

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:36 am
by Ircher
In post 1118, Tracer Bullet wrote:im barely hanging on to life

ircher is one vote short of forcing my elim

and i read flip on my most vocal defender who is widely townread

to do what

express ticket to suicideville?

lol
Let's be honest: this is a high-risk but high-reward move. Yes, it seems counterintuitive, but the fact is that you would most likely have ended up dead if the status quo remained. Doing something flashy like turning on your biggest defender could be just the shake up you need to save yourself.

(I'm not necessarily saying that's what happened here, but it's very much a viable move).

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:50 am
by Tracer Bullet
what reward

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:51 am
by Tracer Bullet
i take risks as scum yes but what reward am i supposed to even be going for rofl

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:41 am
by RCEnigma
In post 1086, Something_Smart wrote:I don't know, I think I'm about as aimless as I usually am? I'm trying to help figure out who the best execution is today and where to go from there.

I also don't think I play more aimlessly as scum than as town. I have scum games where I try to get away with doing very little, but I have town games like that too (and I wouldn't even say this is one of them).
I think your town game is low effort up front with a fair degree of thought behind the scenes. I don't think I've ever even been in a game that you rolled scum so I can't say what you would or wouldn't do with a red role pm.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:44 am
by RCEnigma
Norwee what do you think about Tracer being the only person townreading Wallflower?