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I have it as nonfunctional at the moment. It gives a pretty big incentive to each town to win faster than the other town which is a dynamic I like. I could turn it into a vig though, i suppose.

Full Rules

Teleportation Mafia (renamed from Parallel Universe Mafia)

This is a Large Theme Game. All information is completely open.
The game will have 30 people to begin split evenly and randomly between two games.

Universe 1:
1-shot Mafia A Teleporter
Mafia A Goons x 2
Town 1 Teleporter
Across the Universe Mason
Vanilla Townies x 10

Universe 2:
1-shot Mafia B Teleporter
Mafia A Goons x 2
Town 2 Teleporter
Across the Universe Mason
Vanilla Townies x 10



Teleportation Mafia Rules:
1. You may only speak in the universe you are currently alive in.
2. If at any time a player receives a majority of the vote, they are lynched.
3. Each day has a deadline of 2 weeks.
4. All nights last precisely 48 hours. Any actions not given within this time will be seen as “no action.”
5. Night begins precisely when the majority vote post falls or the deadline is reached.
6. In the case of a conflict between actions between universes, the universe that exits night first will have all their actions performed first.
7. A mafia’s teleport will be considered to be done the instant the PM is sent.
8. One town may get "ahead" of another town by lynching quickly. This may or may not be helpful.

General Rules:
1. Have fun.
2. All votes should be bolded. Unvotes are unnecessary.
3. Please put your vote at the beginning of a line. Votes in the middle of a line are very annoying and easily missed.
4. Don’t be a jerk. I reserve the right to remove any jerks.
5. I prod by request. You may request a prod at any time on anyone. That person will have 36 hours from when I send the PM to post in a substantive way.
6. All communication with the mod should be bolded.
7. There will be a quicktime for the dead.
8. Once one universe has been won, that game is frozen and the other universe may neither pull from nor teleport to that universe. The teleporter becomes a vanilla townie.

Order of Actions:
1. Mafia Kill
2. Town Teleporting or Pulling
3. Mafia Teleporting or Pulling
4. New Teleporter is selected if old one was killed, teleported, pulled, or lynched.
*Note that this means that if a teleporter is killed, their action does not go through that night.

I think the mafia should get a greater ability to teleport. The people joining this game will be ready for wacky teleporting shenanigans and will probably expect it.

how much a greater ability to teleport? I still fundamentally want this to be a game where people can scum hunt and the like... I also don't want it to get bogged down with people constantly rereading, like a game of tons of replacements.

But I'd certainly be open to upping it to a 2-shot teleporter... or an alternative if you can think of one.

Keep in mind that per night two people will be moving already. If I add the ability for scum to be able to transport every night, that'll mean 4 people are moving. By the end of the second night, that'll mean that 8/30 (27%) will have been teleported or pulled.

Maybe two-shot might work.

The one problem I can think of is that while the double win is appealing, I think the mafia are probably much more likely to just go for one, and as such they are going to very much dislike being teleported and will probably want to go back. I guess that's more incentive for them to influence the teleport I suppose.

Also, I love the masons. Great idea. Is that new?

Sanjay wrote:Maybe two-shot might work.

The one problem I can think of is that while the double win is appealing, I think the mafia are probably much more likely to just go for one, and as such they are going to very much dislike being teleported and will probably want to go back. I guess that's more incentive for them to influence the teleport I suppose.

Also, I love the masons. Great idea. Is that new?

Yeah I think you're right. I don't think mafia will probably go for the double win straight away, but I figured the ultimate accomplishment ought to be available, and it gives the mafia a reason to still fight if they've won a universe but they have a player alive in the other universe.

And yeah. I was thinking about the fact I'd like to connect the two universes a little more and thought maybe I'd add a role that could message the other game or something, but then I thought that was needlessly complicated, and masons separated would be a cool dynamic. It also gives the masons a reason to WANT to be teleported to the other game or have their partner pulled.

Adel wrote:

farside22 wrote:Reading the game comments for paris it seems people thought adding 2 VT's would be more helpful. What does 1 VT added to the set up change? Why add only 1 instead of 2 VT's?

2 mafia goons vs. watcher + vig + 7 townies seems like a lot..

possible rule changes:
1. "no lynch" is not allowed while both mimes are alive.
2. if one mime is killed at night the other becomes a neutral survivor OR if one mime is killed at night, both die and lose.

I definately think the no lych while both alive should be in here what about no lynch not in the game at all.

An Idea I came up with last night that doesn't have much refining but I like the idea:


2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
2 Cops
2 Doctors
2 Townies

Tweak it however you wish, but remember that the central idea is that there is two of each role.

skitzer wrote:An Idea I came up with last night that doesn't have much refining but I like the idea:

Noah's Ark

2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
2 Cops
2 Doctors
2 Townies

Tweak it however you wish, but remember that the central idea is that there is two of each role.

2 millers

idk a part of me wants to see something that mess's with the cops a bit and the millers get a VT PM so they don't know they are millers (sorry it's the I want things to be a not follow the cop ideal)

That makes sense. The 2 Cops are very powerful.


2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
2 Cops
2 Doctors
2 Townies
2 Millers (who get a Townie Role PM)

farside22 wrote:

Adel wrote:

farside22 wrote:Reading the game comments for paris it seems people thought adding 2 VT's would be more helpful. What does 1 VT added to the set up change? Why add only 1 instead of 2 VT's?

2 mafia goons vs. watcher + vig + 7 townies seems like a lot..

possible rule changes:
1. "no lynch" is not allowed while both mimes are alive.
2. if one mime is killed at night the other becomes a neutral survivor OR if one mime is killed at night, both die and lose.

I definately think the no lych while both alive should be in here what about no lynch not in the game at all.

unnecessarily penalizes the town in the event of a 3 townie 1 mafia endgame.

skitzer wrote:That makes sense. The 2 Cops are very powerful.

Noah's Ark 2.0

2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
2 Cops
2 Doctors
2 Townies
2 Millers (who get a Townie Role PM)

It seems like a mass claim on day one is devastating for the scum. It's better with more people who are going to be claiming Vanilla Townie, but it's still really rough.

Yeah, that seems nearly impossible for scum to win, with no real safe-claims.

Noah's Ark 3.0
2 Mafia A (Provided with one random safe claim)
2 Mafia B (Provided with one random safe claim)

There are 8 players who are distributed to the following roles. There will either be 0 or 2 of each:
Cops (If selected one can only find Maf A the other Maf B)
Doctors (If selected one can only protect from Maf A the other Maf B)
Millers (who get a Townie Role PM)
Roleblockers, Trackers, Watchers, Martyrs, Lovers, Masons, Townies and so on


Town have 8 players randomly across the different possibilities.

@ Teleporter Mafia, if mafia teleporters are two shots could they could just flood 1 game with mafia for an easy win there. As even if they teleport all the mafia out of 1 universe they will win due to winning in the other?

Max wrote:Noah's Ark 3.0
2 Mafia A (Provided with one random safe claim)
2 Mafia B (Provided with one random safe claim)

There are 8 players who are distributed to the following roles. There will either be 0 or 2 of each:
Cops (If selected one can only find Maf A the other Maf B)
Doctors (If selected one can only protect from Maf A the other Maf B)
Millers (who get a Townie Role PM)
Roleblockers, Trackers, Watchers, Martyrs, Lovers, Masons, Townies

and so on

Town have 8 players randomly across the different possibilities.

Does that mean all possible roles? Because, if I got a townie PM, I'd go right out and say "I'm a miller, folks". Because the chances of getting town and miller in the same game are SO DAMNED LITTLE.

animorpherv1 wrote:Does that mean all possible roles? Because, if I got a townie PM, I'd go right out and say "I'm a miller, folks". Because the chances of getting town and miller in the same game are SO DAMNED LITTLE.

Actually the chances of getting a miller are the same as getting a townie.

Max wrote:

animorpherv1 wrote:Does that mean all possible roles? Because, if I got a townie PM, I'd go right out and say "I'm a miller, folks". Because the chances of getting town and miller in the same game are SO DAMNED LITTLE.

Actually the chances of getting a miller are the same as getting a townie.

but the chances of getting town & miller in the same game is smaller then getting town OR miller.

animorpherv1 wrote:

Max wrote:

animorpherv1 wrote:Does that mean all possible roles? Because, if I got a townie PM, I'd go right out and say "I'm a miller, folks". Because the chances of getting town and miller in the same game are SO DAMNED LITTLE.

Actually the chances of getting a miller are the same as getting a townie.

but the chances of getting town & miller in the same game is smaller then getting town OR miller.

What if the other townie claims townie? You'd have no reason to claim miller over townie. The claim of townie has implications of being a miller anyway.

Max wrote:

animorpherv1 wrote:

Max wrote:

animorpherv1 wrote:Does that mean all possible roles? Because, if I got a townie PM, I'd go right out and say "I'm a miller, folks". Because the chances of getting town and miller in the same game are SO DAMNED LITTLE.

Actually the chances of getting a miller are the same as getting a townie.

but the chances of getting town & miller in the same game is smaller then getting town OR miller.

What if the other townie claims townie? You'd have no reason to claim miller over townie. The claim of townie has implications of being a miller anyway.

You said therw would be 0-2 of certain roles (8 total). Having 1 miller & townie is more likley then 2 of both. But you never did answer first question. Is the possible roles every role in the wiki? Because that's what my case is based on.

It isn't 0-2 random. It's 0-2 because the mafia might have been given those roles as fakeclaims. The likeliness of 1 of each rather than 2 of each depends on how many roles there are total.

Sanjay wrote:It isn't 0-2 random. It's 0-2 because the mafia might have been given those roles as fakeclaims. The likeliness of 1 of each rather than 2 of each depends on how many roles there are total.

It says "randomly" in the description.

Oh, I guess I misread it.

I think the way I misunderstood it is better.

I think a better idea may be as follows:

2 Mafia A
2 Mafia B
8 Town

Are assigned randomly independently from the following (which have either 0 or 2):

Cops, Doctors, Millers (who get a Townie Role PM), Roleblockers, Trackers, Watchers, Martyrs, Lovers, Masons, Townies

It may be possible for either 0, 1 or 2 of each role to be mafia.

Having either 0 or 2 gets reductionist once you lynch several people. Scum will be screwed in any PR fakeclaim if several Townies die and no power roles have...

Also, having that many 'chosen randomly from' roles makes this essentially a normal Mini, not an Open Setup.