Mini 1180: Game Over

[Soben]

Scumhunter has shown some reservations on my Twistedspoon town-read in our QT and I can see where he's coming from with it though I still maintain that Twistedspoon is much more likely town than scum. Despite Mastins obvious tunneling without reasoon I still find all of his actions to come from a town movitated mindset and currently have him as one of my strongest town-reads.

The past few pages has increased and strengthed my town reads on both Alex and DarthYoshi to the point where I would be absolutely shocked if they were to be flip scum however Jillyns lack of activity while joining alternate games is immensely frustrating and slightly suspicious, I want to hear her thoughts on everyone in the room in her next post. I really need to read into Alduskkel because the only reason I consider him to be a suspect at the moment is due to PoE and continued nullness from his posts. If anyone can attempt to summarize the arguments against him excluding the one of him or yoshi has to be mafia one I would greatly appreciate it.

[wierdalexv]

Yeah, I could get behind a Jily lynch. I don't know if that'll get enough people, so I'll be on another wagon.

VOTE: Alduskkel *L-2*

[Twistedspoon]

K

as much as I want to hear from Ald and Jily, I'm V/La from tommorow until Sundayish

have fun, I want many juicy ald + Jily posts whilst I'm gone (hopefully not another 42 pages to catchup though XP)

~TS

[jilynne1991]

This is one boring game.

I think weird asked me a question earlier that I missed, do you mind retyping it?

[jilynne1991]

1. wierdalexv-This is hard. I'm not really getting a scum vibe from you anymore. Null.

2. Scumhunter-I like you're content and everything. It's good. Town.

3. Elsa von Spielburg-In the beginning, I thought you were scum, but now you seem more town. Leaning town.

4. Captain Corporal-Well, I would like to hear a little more, but you seem very town-ish. Town.

5. jilynne1991-Definitely town. No matter what.

6. TheWayItEnds-You're always on my radar, but you don't seem that scummy. You are the scummiest as of now though. Null.

7. DarthYoshi-I could see you as scum, but I think you would have played differently if you were. Leaning town.

8. Twistedspoon-I feel like you're town, but I need to reread and hear more out of you before I really decide.

10. Ironhead-Based on your meta and content, you look town. Town.

11. Alduskkel-You seem as scummy as he--, I also want you to give me a read of everyone here. Along with a case on the 3 people you the scummiest. Thanks.

Ok, with the dad taking my pc away thing, he takes it away like once a week, but I on weekdays, I can usually use the desktop.

Sorry about flaking, I'm close to getting lynched in 1/3 of my games, so those are the ones on my mind.

I like playing as mafia, because it makes eveyrthing so much easier, so that's kind of why I'm flaking. I'll work on that though.

[Captain Corporal]

Firstly, I'm not seeing Aldscum. Despite the fact he's had his vote on me near all game, I don't understand the case on him.
More coming soon.

[wierdalexv]

@Jily: Early in the game, you said your role was boring compared to other roles you had, yet you say you have a PR. I want an answer to this. And no, your answer cannot be you've been PR in every game. For completed games, you've flipped:
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon [This is becoming a trend >_>]
Mafia Rolecop [WHAT IS WITH THIS!!!]
Mafia Goon [>_>]
Vanilla Townie [Finally!]
Vanilla Townie

So....explanations?

Also, what doe you have to say about the "I'm so confused" remark when you used that same strategy in another scumgame?

Random note:

6. TheWayItEnds-You're always on my radar, but you don't seem that scummy. You are the scummiest as of now though. Null.

11. Alduskkel-You seem as scummy as he--, I also want you to give me a read of everyone here. Along with a case on the 3 people you the scummiest. Thanks.

wut

One last thing: I know I'm not good about this, but what posts give you these reads?

Cross out that "last thing" line, I want to ask you why you call your [first] top suspect null.

And I want to hear your answer to DY: If you got grounded from the computer, why do you keep joining new games?

Is it extremely obvious that I didn't edit this out of a stream of consciousness?

[mastin2]

And this is bad timing, I know, but I'll also be

V/LA Friday 'til Monday

. Camping for a 5K run. (Arrive Friday, Run Sunday, come home, but likely dead tired 'til Monday.)

[Captain Corporal]

Did anyone else notice that Jily has NO scumreads? Coincidence? I think not.

[wierdalexv]

Did anyone else notice that Jily has NO scumreads? Coincidence? I think not.

Yeah, she called her [first] top suspect null, and didn't specify for her second.

@All: Would you support a jilynne wagon?

[Soben]

Believe me a Jillyn wagon and lynch is something I've considered multiple times but each and every time I do I reach the conclusion that it isn't a good idea, although her actions are suspicious I don't mind them all to be scum motivated just outright lazyiness.

[Ironhead]

Either she is telling the truth and is a vig who used up her ability; or she is lying and is (very likely) scum. I don't see any compelling reason why we should

not

lynch her if she is scummiest.

[Twistedspoon]

Believe me a Jillyn wagon and lynch is something I've considered multiple times but each and every time I do I reach the conclusion that it isn't a good idea, although her actions are suspicious I don't mind them all to be scum motivated just outright lazyiness.

agreed

i will still never forgive myself If i lose to jilyscum though

[Elsa von Spielburg]

I like how jily said I was at the top of her scumlist, and then turns around and says I'm "Leaning town". I have considered trying to start a wagon on her many a times now, but it's hard to get a good grip on how she's playing, and she DID claim a PR.

Ninja-edit: agreed, Twisted.

[jilynne1991]

I'm not really grounded from the computer...it's more like I just have to use it while they're at work or in the middle of the night.

Ok, and I don't know how the scummiest part got onto TWIE's explanation, that was supposed to go with Aldusskel.

Can we lynch me earlier instead of later? Since in all honestly, I know I'm not that useful, and this game is getting a little boring. So if I'm really going to get lynched...can we make it quick?

[Twistedspoon]

is TWIE V/La or something because I haven't heard from him once yet :[

[DarthYoshi]

@Soben:

The case on Ald revolves around a few things--

-The "null" nature of his posts, something you yourself admit.

-Low activity level, something Ald himself admits, but does so in such a way, and with such emphasis, that much of his activity has been to justify his lack of quality activity, rather than actual scumhunting.

Plus, there are a couple D1 scumtells--

-Ald parking his vote on what was the Gerhard slot, a slot that never came under serious scrutiny, which to me looked like parking a vote somewhere to avoid scrutiny of it; I noted this as a scumtell when I first voted Ald, and I noted it as a scumtell today with Elsa's vote on CC.

-The WK association--On D1, Ald was attempting to discredit the WK wagon by asking everyone on it (save me) to justify why they were on it, and pronouncing himself unsatisfied with that wagon--BUT, he still joined that wagon, which suggests a buddy bussing to avoid suspicion after the scumflip.

That's the case on Ald in a nutshell. Independently, he is rather scummy. In association with WK, he is in fact very scummy.

CC's little "I'm not seeing Aldscum" ditty is noted for the same reason. If Ald does flip scum, I think CC deserves being under the microscope next.

Completely unrelated, these past series of posts seriously are making it difficult for me to conclude if Jily is really really suspicious or just a VI.

[DarthYoshi]

@TS: AFAIK, TWIE hasn't declared V/LA. Methinks he is due for a prod.

[Substrike22]

@TS: AFAIK, TWIE hasn't declared V/LA. Methinks he is due for a prod.

He was prodded in my vote count yesterday, he has less than 5 hours to pick up the prod or be forcibly replaced.

A vote count will come at that time.

Alduskkel is also being prodded at this time.

[wierdalexv]

Oh look, Jily answered the easy questions and avoided the others.

I'ma do meta and see how Jily usually plays as Town vs. as Scum.
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\/ The below is just some advice to Jily [although I probably shouldn't be giving out advice], you can
\/read it if you want but it's not really worth the trouble.
@Jily: If you're town, I bet you would enjoy the game a lot more if you put more effort into it. I recently completed a Newbie game, Newbie 1091: Turmoil in Mobsville [which, irrelevantly, currently holds the record for the longest newbie game ever], and D1 & D2 I wasn't putting in much effort, as I was really busy and didn't have much interest in the game. On D3, however, I was determined to turn that around. With 1 dead scum, I made a lengthy Bandwagon Analysis and made a case on the remaining scum. Despite getting lynched, I had a TON more fun on D3 then I did on the other two days combined.
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OK, I'm done with the meta-check. I ran through Jily's ISO in every completed game, and here's what I got. [I'm only doing this with completed games, don't want to talk about ongoings. As such, I can only find 3.

She replaced into this game. Flipped Mafia Goon.
Newbie card like heck, but this is before the post in the Scum QT that she says she'd "Keep acting like I'm so confused"
I don't know if Jily used this as a strategy, but she said '[partner] is prob-scum, but let's focus on [townie]'.
Basically buddied onto a townie's case. Might want to keep this in mind.
Just information, not much analysis except for the obvious, saying (In a Townie/Mason vs. Goon game) "He says he isn't a mason, so I think he's either Mafia or a Townie".
Basically turned around and is convinced of the buddied townie's guilt.
Says [partner] might be scum, but we should lynch [townie] first - I think this might be a strategy of hers.
Hammers townie, is very cautious about it.
--This is the time where she says she isn't clueless--
"Well, that sucks". Look it up in the wiki if you don't know what it is.
"I'm so confused".
"What's a QT?"
States obvious again.
Random fake AtE saying "I LOOOOOOVE WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" after the town is guaranteed to win.
Hmm...turns around and says "Why are we lynching [townie]? [Partner] is scummier.

OK, there apparently isn't a finished Townie game, and I'm not going to do 3 Mafia ones when she has over 100 posts in a NEWBIE GAME.

My fingers hurt from writing all of this in one sitting.

[wierdalexv]

Jily just checked this thread then didn't post.

/stalker who hid online status

[Alduskkel]

OK what happened was my router was apparently fried after I got back from vacation. So I will be posting soon.

[jilynne1991]

I checked this thread after twistedspoon posted.

Happy? I posted. This game is still boring, and now I have no freaking clue whose scum or not. Gosh. Ok, well now that we're all in favor of me getting lynched, does anyone want to put some actions behind the words? *looks around* Apparently not.

[jilynne1991]

Oh, and yes, I post alot more when I'm scum. Or when I'm interested in the game. (Which happens to be when I'm scum.)

[wierdalexv]

Could you answer my questions?