about the deaths:
elmo was the one who hammered UN. that was bad, I was going to start with him in this day. that kill got me totally confused. I'm probably going to have to make a big reread here to get my wits back on.
about UN, you guys will probably be interested in one of UN's other ongoing games, and there too, he was lynched day 1 and flipped town. that happened during this game's long night.
why are you guys voting Hiraki?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:58 am
by kanyeknowsbest
↑shos wrote:about UN, you guys will probably be interested in one of UN's other ongoing games, and there too, he was lynched day 1 and flipped town. that happened during this game's long night.
what does this have to do with anything?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:59 am
by kanyeknowsbest
are you trying to justify your position on his wagon or something?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:09 am
by shos
nope, just interesting info. I was surprised to see the wrong flip, so I followed, and that's what I found. why are you voting Hiraki?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:28 am
by Parama
vote: Hiraki
MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING TODAY
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:45 am
by shos
On a reread of page 44, I find hiraki wierd, but definitely not enough for my vote yet. will anyone of you try explaining your votes?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:17 pm
by Parama
Chiaro was scum
Pirate was scum
Thus Hiraki is scum
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:29 pm
by shos
ah, I need nuwen's eye on the flavor. wonder if the fact that he was 'shot to pieces' has any meaning.
Which means that the actual scum kill was prevented somehow. If there's a town roleblocker out there, it's very likely that whoever you blocked last night is the scum.
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 1:59 pm
by shos
outing yourself so early like that? *doesn't want to ask if you were 1-shot vig*
why did you vig him? And uh other PRs do not expose yourself yet.
we
A) don't know if Yos is telling truth
B) if you're a JK, don't know if you protected or prevented
Yos, are you scum trying to out our PRs?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:16 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
yeah thats actually what i figured.
hey shos. hes telling the truth: a 1-1 trade isnt worth it for scum.
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:18 pm
by shos
HOLY SHIT
VOTE: Hiraki
I'll explain tomorrow
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:29 pm
by shos
actually, I think that it is better if I say it before Hiraki comes, so let it be now.
I was able to send a message during yesterday, anonymous, to one person.
I really had no clue what to do with that. but then I came up with something, and I sent a message to Hiraki. I suppose that I am not allowed to quote, so generally, the message said something like,
I want scum to win, so if you are scum, vote uberninja and kill shos(cuz people seem to think he is town), or if UN is scum, vote Zar quickly without saying anything, nobody will complain.
Sooooo I wanted to test the reaction. as a start, he did not inform the town about recieving the message. that's (A). then, he made his long post, and voted Uberninja. that's (B). and now - scumteam's kill has been blocked? wonderful!! that means he tried to kill me. point is - in addition to the message, I was bulletproof yesterday as well. that's (C). So it all fits.
please don't tell me I made a mistake exposing myself ><
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:58 pm
by Vi
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:09 pm
by Katsuki
Yos, if you are in fact a vig, why did you claim right out of the gate?
Because I thought he was scum all day yesterday, and then he quickhammered Uberninja in response to UN claiming town info role, without bothering to even ask him for details or get other reactions first. Don't get me wrong, I was a big supporter of the UN lynch, but quickhammering someone IN RESPONSE TO a town info role claim without even getting reactions or demanding a full claim or whatever looked pretty bad.
Yos, are you scum trying to out our PRs?
The only kind of power role I would like to see claim today is a roleblocker who believes he or she prevented the kill by blocking the scum last night. In that case, it would absolutely be worth it to out a roleblocker in order to lynch a scum today.
No other town power role should claim; I don't want to hear claims from any doctors, or bulletproof, or whatever. Only claim if it nails us a scum today. Even then, you don't have to claim right now, but before the end of the day would probably be good.
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:11 pm
by Yosarian2
↑Katsuki wrote:Yos, if you are in fact a vig, why did you claim right out of the gate?
I don't claim lightly, but in this case, it seemed worth it to share the information I had.
By the way, your message also noted that I'm probably going to be lynched today.
Any reason for that Shos? I had two votes on me, none of which were you.
In addition, why the fuck would I say that I got a random message from someone when that someone could be scum? Your whole case is based off the basis that I knew the person's alignment. I didn't.
In addition,
Vote: Charter
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:49 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
why wouldnt you claim that? a message entreating you as a possible scum candidate trying to confirm you as scum and pushing a pro scum agenda? thats good information for town to have. the first thing it would make me think of is there is some sort of third party that can win with scum or a traitor. yknow, kind of the stuff a townie would want the rest of the town to know.
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:51 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
shos: do/did you get notified that your bp soaked a kill attempt?
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:54 pm
by Hiraki
↑kanyeknowsbest wrote:why wouldnt you claim that? a message entreating you as a possible scum candidate trying to confirm you as scum and pushing a pro scum agenda? thats good information for town to have. the first thing it would make me think of is there is some sort of third party that can win with scum or a traitor. yknow, kind of the stuff a townie would want the rest of the town to know.
Because I actually thought, from the typing and convenient "buddies" that it was you and ignorable.