So you've said more than once. Can you share the post that makes the town-Robo Kool-Aid so we can all drink it?
And it would be super great if there were lots of posts that lead to reasons....
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:09 pm
by vijay2vasandani
Stupid letter choice was stupid. This letter thing is much harder than it seems.
LLD could be scum.
What's the case on me again?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:33 pm
by AurorusVox
LLD, MoI was scum but then he TvT'd with ICEguy.
Lynch Vijay with me.
Do it.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:33 pm
by AurorusVox
Flip: A2
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:42 pm
by Quilford
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:08 pm
by Voidedmafia
Spoiler: summation of the board
Day 1:
LLD can possibly make either neighborize (NB) or Ninja (NJ).
Robocopter has 1 piece for Cop, CPR Doc, or PGO.
Amrun has 1 unknown
Hoopla has 1 piece for CPR and can possibly make RB
AV has 1 piece for Cop, CPR, and PGO like Robo
MoI has 1 piece for Vig and can possibly make VO
I have one piece for CPR and can possibly make RB like Hoop
Vijay and 2minds have 1 piece for Cop, CPR, and WTC, and can possibly make CM, DC, and LC.
Whisper has 1 piece for WHM, and can possibly make SM and CM
Arugula has 1 unknown
DCL has 1 piece for WTC and can possibly make TK
IceGuy has 1 piece for WKD and HID, and can possibly make DC
Day 2:
2Minds1Soul has one unknown piece.
LLD has 1 piece for CPR and can possibly make RB.
Robo has 1 unknown piece.
IceGuy has 1 piece for HID and VIG.
MoI has 1 unknown piece.
I have 1 piece for WKD and can possibly make DC.
AVox has 1 piece for Vig and PGO and can possibly make BG.
DCL has one pice for WHM and can possibly make CM and/or SM.
Vijay has 1 piece for COP and PGO and can possibly make VO.
Whisper has 1 unknown piece.
Amrun has one piece for HID and WHM, and can possibly make SH.
Possible word combos based on the tiles currently flipped are:
X, K6 - None
Z, G2 - None
N, B5 - NB, NJ
W, G6, E6 - WHM, WKD, WTC
S, F3 - LS, SH, SM
B, D6 - BG, NB, and RB
M, H3 - WHM, CM, and SM
J, D1 - JK and NJ
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:24 am
by AurorusVox
Collect: J6
FFS
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:25 am
by AurorusVox
NO WAIT
I MEANT
FLIP
FFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:41 am
by MagnaofIllusion
@AV
– Once I finish my review of Voided I’ll probably be dropping my vote.
My question to you – do you think Vijay is scum but Robo isn’t?
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Voided wrote:The thing I just can't wrap my mind around right now is: Why DCL? Why not you, or me, or Whisper? Maybe I shouldn't get too wrapped up in NK WIFOM, but I just can't comprehend why they'd kill him.
Yes, it is going to be Nightkill WIFOM at it’s heart but remember … scum (unless they are morons and we really don’t have any of them in the game) aren’t going to make kills that in some way don’t benefit them.
Why do you think Whispersilk would be a viable kill?
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LLD wrote:Also Robo is 100% town.
Please eludicate as to why unless you are just going to pass some fluff like “His posts bleed Town” without links in which case don’t bother.
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Vijay wrote:Stupid letter choice was stupid. This letter thing is much harder than it seems.
LLD could be scum.
Um, whut?
Also I don’t care who could be scum given that everyone in the game ‘could’ be so due to random draw. Who do you think IS scum?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:43 am
by MagnaofIllusion
@Everyone
- it's Day 3 and I've seen no evidence that any useful combinations have been made. At this point do you personally think it is worth planning out who takes what tile based on claims of combinations they can make?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:45 am
by MagnaofIllusion
@AV
- probably best you actually flip a tile even though you collected a mystery tile ... :/
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:08 am
by MagnaofIllusion
Voided’s ISO
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First 5-7 posts all revolve around discussion and merits of controlling flips and collects. No real scum-hunting material there.
– do you have completed games showing a Town penchant for skipping RVS you can link me to?
Post 158 – this reminds me to look at Hoopla again …
His general posting style Day 1 I can see as being annoying but I’m seeing a significant amount of intereactions with many players, asking questions I feel are appropriate, and general Pro-Town play.
I also find his asking question and interacting after the hammer on Arugula to be Town. No reason to keep prying (for example, prompting me to give a firm read here on him).
Day 2 is very similar to Day 1. I don’t have issues with the timing and manner of his interactions with his suspects read as Town to me. I’m not seeing anything that pings my scumdar.
I’m not going to be voting Voided today.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:03 am
by PeregrineV
↑Voidedmafia wrote:The thing I just can't wrap my mind around right now is: Why DCL? Why not you, or me, or Whisper? Maybe I shouldn't get too wrapped up in NK WIFOM, but I just can't comprehend why they'd kill him.
Robocopter: Vehemently opposed to it which makes sense regardless of his alignment. His reaction to it is a mostly null tell. However his complete misrepresentations of it do come across as scummy. While it would make sense for someone to defend themselves (regardless of alignment) the fact that he is lying as part of his defense still makes me believe that he is scum.
Voided Mafia: Also very much opposed to it. Like with robo, either he just doesn't get it, or he is scum trying to completely tear it apart. The fact that he is willing to put me to L-1 without concern for me self-hammering is very scummy.
ICEguy: Mentions once that he doesn't like it, but thinks robocopter is scum, yet at the same time keeps a scum read on me. His limited response to it seems to me as if he is just trying to play cool with it and not turn it into a big deal. It just doesn't make any sense. He basically is saying that I am scum making a bs gambit on my partner. Very, very poor response. Tons of scum motivation especially since he is essentially setting himself up to be on my wagon and then on robocopter's wagon the next day.
Reads
Spoiler:
Town:
2minds1soul-Already explained earlier
Whispersilk- it would have been all too easy for her to just join my wagon given that she has considered me scum for a lot of the game.
LLD-Dumb but still town.
MoI- Sorry, your case on ICEguy was good, but I wasn't ready to out my gambit yet.
Null:
Amrun- Need to see catchup post before I say anything more about her.
Aurosvox-scummy for being on my wagon, but the way he abandoned it was townish so overall he is null.
Voidedmafia- The one thing that bothers me the most about him is the fact that he is willing to leave me at L-1 despite the fact that I could eff up the town by self-hammering.
Scum:
Vijay2visandani-So he was the second person to vote me and offered no explanation for it. When questioned he said that he had agreed with someone about me being scummy. One problem, at the time of his vote on me no one had made a case on me. So there was no one for him to agree with. His BS explanation is very scummy.
ICEguy-see first spoiler
Robocopter- already explained
Voided wrote:The thing I just can't wrap my mind around right now is: Why DCL? Why not you, or me, or Whisper? Maybe I shouldn't get too wrapped up in NK WIFOM, but I just can't comprehend why they'd kill him.
Yes, it is going to be Nightkill WIFOM at it’s heart but remember … scum (unless they are morons and we really don’t have any of them in the game) aren’t going to make kills that in some way don’t benefit them.
But how does killing DCL benefit anyone?
Also, to answer Pere: Firstly, I highly doubt DCL would've been able to get back to a point where people would've been willing to back his reads had he been alive.
Secondly, Robo was already primed to be in the crosshairs (and vijay was/is shaping up to be that way) almost regardless of IG's flip. Most of us were already gravitating toward lynching one of them after IG, so why DCL in particular?
Why do you think Whispersilk would be a viable kill?
Admittedly she still is somewhat in the crosshairs, but I figured she was out of it enough that she might be a threat.
MoI wrote:@Voided – do you have completed games showing a Town penchant for skipping RVS you can link me to?
In Newbie 1075 I didn't really participate in RVS (though unlike Long Overdue I didn't outright say I wasn't going to, i just kinda commented without voting before making my serious vote on Trendall).
The most recent game I can find is Newbie 1167 where I state I'm not participating in my IC opening post.
↑Robocopter87 wrote:Hello, played with quite a few of you and know some others. Hope to have a fun game.
VOTE: AurorusVox
Just cuz.
Also, I would like to remind some that though we have quite an interesting setup we still can find scum through conventional methods. Don't get lost in the setup matrix and let scummy stuff slide. However, this early in the game I think discussing how we will use the setup is very important.
This is not a scum post.
This is not scum thinking.
This is town saying "Hey don't get caught up in mechanics guys!"
Yeah.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:03 pm
by Amrun
I agree with LLD re: Robo.
Collect: H3
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:16 pm
by Robocopter87
Collect: F3
Flip: K2
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:25 pm
by whispersilk
I've had some shitty internet over the last few days. Catching up now.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:26 am
by MagnaofIllusion
MOD – I will be LA from 4:30pm EDT today until Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties
@AV
– You can have my vote for the moment. I was wrong about Ice and my ISO work doesn't make me certain that Robo is the clear choice over Vijay.
VOTE: Vijay
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Voided wrote: But how does killing DCL benefit anyone?
I don’t know. It’s more important to look at down the line after we actually get a scum flip but it has to have benefitted them in some way.
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LLD wrote:
This is not a scum post.
This is not scum thinking.
This is town saying "Hey don't get caught up in mechanics guys!"
Yeah.
Lulz. This is the easy “Fake helpful” type of post that is easily thrown down by Scum. It doesn’t actually add any scum-hunting value but says “Oh look at how Townie I am”.
Are you one of Robo’s partners LLD? I know as scum you do tend to try to keep a low profile.
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Robo wrote: Collect: F3
So Robo why should everyone not consider this a Scum-claim? What Word do you intend to make with the S?
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:03 am
by Robocopter87
Share. It is more likely that a person could have many possibilities if I give them the tiles I possess.
You are making "scum claims" out of nothing.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:37 am
by MagnaofIllusion
↑Robocopter87 wrote:Share. It is more likely that a person could have many possibilities if I give them the tiles I possess.
You are making "scum claims" out of nothing.
Oh good. You are going to now have to follow through with actually using the Share or you get lynched tomorrow. Good to know.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:38 am
by MagnaofIllusion
@Everyone else
- anyone who can counter Robo's claim here (for example, having Letter Checked him last Night and knowing he doesn't have an H) should do so ASAP since that means hes' confirmed scum.