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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:49 pm
by petapan
nvm i think i get the implication there though i think people inferred krab was softclaiming all on his own, muttley did claim in a towny way so

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:27 pm
by Amethyst Actor
Sorry, It was supposed to be Krabs/Muttley are scum, not town

Krabs was trying to soft-claim and it gave me the impression that it was a PR, given that Mutt softed a VT role, it doesn't make sense. For me, it's a difference of scum tactics

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:30 pm
by Amethyst Actor
Mut didn't soft a VT, he hard claimed one...

same principle applies though, Krabs tried to get people off his wagon by softing a PR while Mut claimed VT. They are the same slot so it doesn't make sense

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:47 pm
by Svenskt Stål
In post 1114, Fuzzyman wrote:
Vote: xMalcolmx


I'll be pissed if we don't get a lynch in.
In post 1115, Nero Cain wrote:I'm really really starting to think we should kill fuzzy

Agreed.

UNVOTE: malcolm

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:49 pm
by Svenskt Stål
Vote malcolm


nevermind.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:03 pm
by Nero Cain
Why is petapan ignoring me?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:39 pm
by petapan
In post 1126, Amethyst Actor wrote:Sorry, It was supposed to be Krabs/Muttley are scum, not town

Krabs was trying to soft-claim and it gave me the impression that it was a PR, given that Mutt softed a VT role, it doesn't make sense. For me, it's a difference of scum tactics
In post 1127, Amethyst Actor wrote:Mut didn't soft a VT, he hard claimed one...

same principle applies though, Krabs tried to get people off his wagon by softing a PR while Mut claimed VT. They are the same slot so it doesn't make sense
oh i thought the implication was that if he was softclaiming a PR it would be in his given fakeclaim therefore this guy coming in unprepared would be claiming whatever he was given

regardless i think people inferring a softclaim are reading too much into it

fuzzyman is an epic good lynch still

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:40 pm
by petapan
In post 1130, Nero Cain wrote:Why is petapan ignoring me?
i saw your post i just don't do lists + was reading the rest of the thread sorry to leave you hanging

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:43 pm
by Nero Cain
I don't think listed your top suspects is a list....

I also have a question for you in 1198.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:51 pm
by Darthe
I don't do lists is such a shitty reason. Sorry, I just figured someone who was voted most cunning manipulator would say more in that regard?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:52 pm
by Darthe
In post 1104, xMALCOLMx wrote:[Kise]
In post 1043, The Goat wrote:
In post 1019, xMALCOLMx wrote:You guys act like you've never been wrong about someone being town. Someone else asked and it hasn't been answered...
why is Krabs town?


There are theories going around as to what scum may or may not be doing in this situation. How about some facts? Like Krabs' contradictory patterns?
I really dislike this post.

Malcolm, you're using the point being debated as factual evidence that Krabs is scum, and look like you're setting up a precedent to refer to if Krab flips town.
Still haven't answered the bolded.
In post 1039, Svenskt Stål wrote:Nacho, If you start posting like you did in this game I will unvote instantly.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24478
We really don't give a shit how you feel.
In post 1050, GoodCopBadCop wrote:I can see Raven scum. I would've expected her to give up with the "answer my questions" by now. It seems like an easy way for her to appear active.

@Raven - It seriously feels like that's all you're doing. Fuck the questions. Try another way of scumhunting.
Kinda like how you were persistent here?
In post 1062, Svenskt Stål wrote:Fuck your wagon, fuck your case, fuck you fucked up logic for voting WITH one of your suspects.
Now again, why aren't you speculating people could be bussing? Why is it that one scumread totally negates you from scumreading someone else? I don't believe you don't see how closed minded and ignorant this is.
In post 1063, Desperado wrote:One of the two major obstacles to lynching Krab has been lifted, he's not a PR. Your previous justification for his softclaim was that he was a Cop or Doctor ("People read "might as well claim" as him having something to claim, and you only do as a power role." - Sven), so how do you explain why Krab felt he "might as well claim now" due to his "inevitable lynch" at five votes?
Svet is a scumfuck that's why. Now that I called him out as such he wants to have unhealthy words for me. Feathers have been ruffled. He's also dodging your question like a pro.

Fucking foreigners need to stop coming on my goddamn site, on MY GODDAMN AMERICAN SOIL with your bullshit

<3 AA9

Svet needs death
In post 1085, Amethyst Actor wrote:Mutt's claim doesn't mesh with what Krabs was trying to soft claim. Mutt/Krabs is town[/url]
Unvote?
In post 1085, Amethyst Actor wrote:Kise has been ordering people around
I have? You've got me mixed with Svet I think
In post 1086, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I have Krabs as town because of my perception of the Krabs wagon vs. the Malcolm/GCBC wagons.
Useless. You don't need to wait around on the fence for others before voting me. Explain why you currently are.

I don't know if you're off on this with Svet but am interested in who you think is most likely to fit with Svet if your predictions are accurate?

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:54 pm
by Darthe
In post 1110, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Why xMalcolmx needs to be the lynch today:

Post #401: "Scum can be protown too.". Votes for Krab without much justification.

#489, #492: "Too tired, too much going on."

#616: "(Jebus') lack of posting isn't scummy in and of itself."

#619: Agrees with Stal's timestamp catch, then OMGUS' him later after being attacked. Attack on Krab is weak. Says Skull and Raven are town without any justification, likely only that they are on the same wagon as him, very opportunistic.

#679: Asks Krab to claim at L-4.

#841: Admits Desperado looks scum, but doesn't mind that Desperado is on his wagon.

#1019: "You guys act like you've never been wrong about someone being town." Terrible defence against good arguments.
Even these quotes read as misguided townie to me. The only things that really strike when put in this regard are #619, #679, and #1019.


Btw,
Sorry about the absence all, I just graduated today and it has been so busy!

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:22 pm
by petapan
i took "a quick rundown" to basically mean a list but my thoughts are really unorganized and i'm bad with words sorry

like i thought krabs' reaction was shit but now i'm doing a complete 180 that's how scatterbrained i tend to be

i did note i did not like any of squidward, fuzzyman, and ferretlover on my readthrough thought ferret could easily be a VI which is why i put him as vig bait

and yeah that's two lurky players but they do a really good job of making themselves look bad

tonally i didn't like theesquire but it's not a deep read, desperado is slightly above scum on my list i think because he asked for a claim from sven after the fake dayvig which is scumshit but i haven't noticed anything otherwise

malcolm i generally just didn't like because i felt like they weren't posting real substance and instead were just trying to generate conflict i think but i was like meh. need to actually read what theyve posted on the last few pages though

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:23 pm
by petapan
In post 1134, Darthe wrote:I don't do lists is such a shitty reason. Sorry, I just figured someone who was voted most cunning manipulator would say more in that regard?
do you think i got this fucking banner by being obstinate when people ask me things

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:41 pm
by petapan
malcolm's case on svenskt is Epic Bad and a lot of fearmongering crap with minimal substance

UNVOTE:

VOTE: xMALCOLMx

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:46 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 1138, petapan wrote:
In post 1134, Darthe wrote:I don't do lists is such a shitty reason. Sorry, I just figured someone who was voted most cunning manipulator would say more in that regard?
do you think i got this fucking banner by being obstinate when people ask me things
you got it by sucking up to the judges

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:48 pm
by petapan
in particular "his posting here resembles how he was posting as scum!!!" stinks worse than mark henry's jock strap, it's all drawing comparisons between how he played that game and this game, ignoring the fact that
his posts will be similar because he's the same person
. it fails to attribute an actual scum motive for the most part other than "he is defending the popular wagon!!" which is a great scum-tell...for a baby. scum sometimes defend lynches, so do town, it doesn't mean anything unless you actually bother to analyze
why
they're doing that but there's none of that here

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:58 pm
by petapan
In post 1140, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1138, petapan wrote:
In post 1134, Darthe wrote:I don't do lists is such a shitty reason. Sorry, I just figured someone who was voted most cunning manipulator would say more in that regard?
do you think i got this fucking banner by being obstinate when people ask me things
you got it by sucking up to the judges
that's very funny considering i don't even know who most of the judges are and don't talk offsite with anyone from MS except for Empire

this isn't the venue for discussion of that at all, however so i'd appreciate it if you lay off the paranoid ad-homs

but i'll lay it out in plain terms:

the way to win as scum, is to not get lynched. you avoid getting lynched by not drawing heat. to not draw heat, you need to look town. to look town, you need to follow the set of rules that silly narrow minded people have set up and jump through hoops to appease them. as town, i don't need to do that and i am generally less decisive in my opinions because i need to actually think about things. it's really not a difficult principle to understand

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:01 pm
by Nero Cain
:facepalm:

That was totally trolling, dude.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:01 pm
by Desperado
In post 1137, petapan wrote:desperado is slightly above scum on my list i think because he asked for a claim from sven after the fake dayvig which is scumshit but i haven't noticed anything otherwise
No I didn't. I was asking GoodCopBadCop to claim. Sven wasn't even present IIRC

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:01 pm
by petapan
In post 1143, Nero Cain wrote::facepalm:

That was totally trolling, dude.
well then grats you succeeded
In post 1144, Desperado wrote:
In post 1137, petapan wrote:desperado is slightly above scum on my list i think because he asked for a claim from sven after the fake dayvig which is scumshit but i haven't noticed anything otherwise
No I didn't. I was asking GoodCopBadCop to claim. Sven wasn't even present IIRC
oh i'm an idiot i just reread that ok read rescinded

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:51 pm
by RATEDR
heya, petapan. First of all, are you Peta or Reggin? Hard to keep track, especially with your John Cena gimmick (which I'm guessing means you're Reggin)

Also, what are your thoughts on Raven and GoodCopBadCop? You have briefly touched on those two but I'd like to know what you think of them a little more in depth.

-Grazie

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:03 pm
by Svenskt Stål
Vote count please.

I agree on fuzzy. awesome lynch.

I think malcolms case on me (which I have mostly ignored) can be summed up as spite, and not really a scum tell. I actually think its towny to come after the one pushing you... scum tends to start buddying up.

I need to re read the last days.... have been avoiding mafia and trying to find my balance and inner spirit animal.

Its a flaming warbear, soo...

Anyway, just after a skim, less sure on malcolm, large part becouse of fuzzy, i think voting malcolm for his case on me is bad... without having read the case.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:05 pm
by Svenskt Stål
I also dont get monkeys logic on why he couldnt vote malcolm as 3rd vote, but it was okay later... not saying its scummy, i just dont understand.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:10 pm
by Nexus
Al Snow v Road Dogg, Hardcore Match (Raw January 4th 1999)


Votecount 1.16:


Muttleyddmc (7)-
Doctor C Niall DeMencha, Amethyst Actor, xMALCOLMx, GoodCopBadCop, Skullduggery, Ravenpaw, Desperado
xMALCOLMx (6)-
ferretlover, The Goat, MonkeyMan576, Fuzzyman, Svenskt Stål, petapan
GoodCopBadCop (3)-
Krab Bucket, RATEDR, Jebus
MonkeyMan576 (2)-
ArcAngel9, Squidward
Jebus (1)-
TheEsquire
The Goat (1)-
Nero Cain
ferretlover (1)-
Darthe

Not Voting (0)-


With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Day 1 ends when I find a replacement for Squidward.

Searching for a Squidward replacement. If you have anyone who can replace in, please let me know.